Rumor: Rumors and Proposals: 4 Days Until Armageddon (UFA). Lucic+Demers Day Out in Edm

[Aceboogie]

To be fair to the other players on that list, a large part of those eye popping numbers are because when hall isn't on the ice the oilers haven't had much else. Good players who play on good teams have better respective support.

Not necessarily true with Montreal, or Ottawa. Islanders are iffy, a really poor team 3 years ago. Tavares career numbers (when on a bottom feeder) are not 8%. But good teams also have good players on the ice when player x is on ice as well. So it evens itself out

8% is pretty unreal for any player, even for elite players on bad teams

 

[frag2]

Stock is just sending out that tweet now so that it arrives in time for July 1.

Stock is Speedy turtle

 

[OilerFan4Life]

Yeah I'm pretty convinced that trading Hall would be a catastrophic mistake.

We have to trust Chiarelli.

If the best RNH brings back is Dumba, it's time to seriously consider moving Hall for a d-man who doesn't suck.

 

[McPuritania]

Do you tweet this out to Lebrun and Friedman every time? Mackenzie had Barrie forsure being traded? Guess he isnt legit eh?

Almost deals happen and fall apart when new info arises, like say, Puljujarvi dropping

Difference is, Lebrun, Freidman, and McKenzie, have very good track records. I can't seem to recall a single thing said by that poster materializing.

Just saying.

 

[Young Lions*]

We have to trust Chiarelli.

If the best RNH brings back is Dumba, it's time to seriously consider moving Hall for a d-man who doesn't suck.

That's a mighty low bar you're setting.

 

[oilborn]

Stock is just sending out that tweet now so that it arrives in time for July 1.

You sir win the internets for the day.

 

[duul]

Expect to hear Demers has agreed to sign with us tomorrow as well. It says a lot about how much the players and agents respect Chiarelli. Can you imagine these players letting MacTavish know so far in advance without talking exact terms just so he could move salary out to accommodate them? No way in hell. Everyone in the hockey world respects Chia and they know he understands how to build a cup winning team. With Lucic and Demers coming in, I predict Hall is traded in a package for another defenceman and one of Eberle and RNH are traded for prospect defence to give us more cap space.

 

[Aceboogie]

I feel like the nerd whos watching some kid take his bike up some massive ramp to try and jump over certainly unmakeable jump and saying " Hey bud, I uhh, dont think you are going to clear that" and then the kid going "you never know if you dont try!"

 

[shoop]

Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Or when hall is traded.

Although with L.A. Giving permission to talk, I wonder if that makes talking numbers okay.

I would hope it does. Seems odd that they would give permission to talk, but not about numbers.

Wonder if Chia throws LA a 5th or 6th rounder to get the deal done now.

 

[NoDust33]

To be fair to the other players on that list, a large part of those eye popping numbers are because when hall isn't on the ice the oilers haven't had much else. Good players who play on good teams have better respective support.

So it's safe to assume Hall's production is hindered because of his lack of relative support and that he has had a significant influence, on average, of every player that has played with him?

Isn't that the defining reason of a great player? he makes players around him better.

He's so underrated.

 

[Aceboogie]

Difference is, Lebrun, Freidman, and McKenzie, have very good track records. I can't seem to recall a single thing said by that poster materializing.

Just saying.

First thing he was saying was Subban to be traded like 3 months ago and was greeted not to well. Then 3 months later it turns out Subban actually was nearly dealt.

Give it to July 10th to make a call. No trades have happened yet

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Yeah I'm pretty convinced that trading Hall would be a catastrophic mistake.

I'm more convinced that keeping him and not addressing the defense would be an even bigger mistake.

 

[nhlisajoke]

does Hall need to be traded once we sign Lucic though? cant we get Shatty or another Dman for Eberle and 1st 2017 ??

 

[OilerFan4Life]

I would hope it does. Seems odd that they would give permission to talk, but not about numbers.

Wonder if Chia throws LA a 5th or 6th rounder to get the deal done now.

Why?

Just wait the 3 days and sign him. This would be a tremendous waste of a draft pick.

 

[gordonhught]

Stock is Speedy turtle

Better chance Stock is Batman.

 

[Seachd]

Wonder if Chia throws LA a 5th or 6th rounder to get the deal done now.

I wouldn't see why. There are probably better ways to flush picks.

 

[PinSeeker]

I'm more convinced that keeping him and not addressing the defense would be an even bigger mistake.

Unfortunately that is the situation we are in. We must fix the D this off-season, must.

If that means Hall goes, well... And this is coming from someone who owns a Hall jersey.

 

[lakai17]

Yeah everyone is assuming Hall has to get traded if Lucic signs?

 

[shoop]

Why?

Just wait the 3 days and sign him. This would be a tremendous waste of a draft pick.

People change their minds. Some team could come in and scoop Lucic. Allows for that much more movement the next couple days.

 

[McPuritania]

First thing he was saying was Subban to be traded like 3 months ago and was greeted not to well. Then 3 months later it turns out Subban actually was nearly dealt.

Give it to July 10th to make a call. No trades have happened yet

I think that's the issue.

 

[McYoungGuns]

It pretty much sums up Taylor Hall as a player.

Where this weak defence comes up I don't know.

He's one the better 5 on 5 players in the game. Yet he's weak defensively? I call bull crap.

He's just not a good power play performer.

If we do end up keeping Hall I'd like to remove him from the power play and play the living crap out of him 5 on 5. That or get him on the PK. There's room for Hall to dominate more aspects of the game. He's a good defensive player that could be a completely dominate one.

or..... he's never had a pp qb ?

 

[McPuritania]

Why?

Just wait the 3 days and sign him. This would be a tremendous waste of a draft pick.

I'll count it a draft pick well spent if we can get some player movement going sooner rather than later.

I'm impatient.

 

[Spawn]

So it's safe to assume Hall's production is hindered because of his lack of relative support and that he has had a significant influence, on average, of every player that has played with him?

Isn't that the defining reason of a great player? he makes players around him better.

He's so underrated.

Hey don't get me wrong. Hall is an amazing player. Just saying an amazing player on a terrible team is going to look better relative to his teammates than an amazing player on a better team.

 

[OilerFan4Life]

People change their minds. Some team could come in and scoop Lucic. Allows for that much more movement the next couple days.

If he has a change of heart, we don't want him here anyway.

He needs to commit to this organization long-term.

 

[OilerFan4Life]

I'll count it a draft pick well spent if we can get some player movement going sooner rather than later.

I'm impatient.

You're Craig MacTavish? I can't imagine you're getting wifi in the boiler room Craig. Don't burn up all that data at once!