Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXI

[Thirty One]

I always thought that Jake Elmer was the future C.

Because he's a glue guy?**

Joke stolen from from someone else.

 

[egelband]

Because he's a glue guy?**

Joke stolen from from someone else.

I come here for the hockey talk.
But I stay here for the champagne comedy.

 

[Edge]

But I was told by many posters that Kreider was a lock for the C. Hopefully Brooks is right, don't want Chris with the C.

What I always found interesting were fans being significantly more in love with the concept than management was/is.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What I always found interesting were fans being significantly more in love with the concept than management was/is.

Really? I always felt fans were leaning towards Zibanejad for the captaincy

 

[egelband]

Really? I always felt fans were leaning towards Zibanejad for the captaincy

Me too. I reckon that it’s like 75-25 for Zib and Kreids. If we had to pick a captain right now.

 

[True Blue]

The false premise of your argument is that Strome represents ‘quality’, compared to the other options.

Which comes from the utterly false premise of an argument that is rooted in a ridiculous belief that "anyone can do it".

What are your other options that will be able to play on the second line, with your best player and cost the same or less?

Its almost as if you can't address the actual issue that Panarin has earned Strome's money, not Strome.

Panarin was single-handedly responsible for Strome being able to put the puck in the right place? Amazing.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The one thing ill say about Kreider and the captaincy is that he doesn't lead by example most nights, the most involved ive seen him was when it was already too late vs carolina. If that Kreider was what we saw every night id love it but its not. Without being in the room id say its Zibby, Trouba, and then maybe Kreider for captain. The only thing holding back them giving Zib the c is the next contract imo.

 

[Kovalev27]

Dave Maloney very tellingly one night between periods let out that Kreider is NOT the type of guy that should the captain. Very quirky not at all who they’d look to for that role.

and I believe he’s 100% spot on

Mika should be captain. It should have happened last year and it’s ridiculous that it still hasn’t happened

 

[Edge]

Really? I always felt fans were leaning towards Zibanejad for the captaincy

I felt like it was close, but Kreider picked up votes when he re-signed.

But broadly speaking, the concept of putting the "C" on Kreider (either before or after his new contract) was always more popular outside the organization than within.

 

[Trxjw]

Just leave the captaincy vacant until Alexis is ready for it.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Just leave the captaincy vacant until Alexis is ready for it.

I'd add, until the team is ready for it. We are a hodge-podge of dead cap space, ELCs, and a couple legit stars right now, hardly something that needs coherence and legitimacy from a 'cultural' standpoint.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Last year I was on board with Zibby being captain but now?

I mean I love him but is he gonna be here in 2 years?

Might as well just hold off and roll with A’s until Lafreniere is ready for it

 

[Edge]

Just leave the captaincy vacant until Alexis is ready for it.

I think right now, despite Larry's article (which has a lot of valid points sprinkled throughout), the Rangers are very much keeping that option/possibility open before they commit to another direction.

And again, Larry kind of mentioned it, but it bears repeating, this organization is not totally married to Zibanejad moving forward. Whether one likes or agrees with that aspect, it is going to be a factor when we talk about things like the captaincy or even the trades the Rangers consider over the next year or two.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Ideally, the D pairs would look like this:

Smith-Trouba (ugh)
Lindgren-Fox
Reunanen-TDA
Hajek

Bitetto and Jack Johnson on the taxi squad

 

[Fitzy]

Just leave the captaincy vacant until Alexis is ready for it.

Why do we assume that Lafreniere is the eventual captain, rather than Fox, Kakko, Miller, Lundkvist, or any other number of younger players here?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Here is the captains and alternates 3 years from now
C- Lafreniere
A - Eichel
A - Trouba
A - Fox
A - Kreider

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I felt like it was close, but Kreider picked up votes when he re-signed.

But broadly speaking, the concept of putting the "C" on Kreider (either before or after his new contract) was always more popular outside the organization than within.

Yea it was always about 50/50 and like you said Kreider picked up votes when he signed that long contract.

 

[SA16]

I think right now, despite Larry's article (which has a lot of valid points sprinkled throughout), the Rangers are very much keeping that option/possibility open before they commit to another direction.

And again, Larry kind of mentioned it, but it bears repeating, this organization is not totally married to Zibanejad moving forward. Whether one likes or agrees with that aspect, it is going to be a factor when we talk about things like the captaincy or even the trades the Rangers consider over the next year or two.

Wouldn't that be a good reason to name his captain though (provided they think he deserves it)? If they decided not to re-up him in two years (which as of now I disagree with but could change based on his play) that would leave the C open for Lafreniere (or someone else) to take over at that point. If they gave it to Kreider that wouldn't be an option without taking it away from him which happens sometimes but isn't really the right thing to do to one of your most well-respected and longest tenured players.

All that being said I really don't care who is named the Captain or think it matters much.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I think right now, despite Larry's article (which has a lot of valid points sprinkled throughout), the Rangers are very much keeping that option/possibility open before they commit to another direction.

And again, Larry kind of mentioned it, but it bears repeating, this organization is not totally married to Zibanejad moving forward. Whether one likes or agrees with that aspect, it is going to be a factor when we talk about things like the captaincy or even the trades the Rangers consider over the next year or two.

If we don't have a #1C emerge in the next 2 years, there is no way we can lose Mika to FA (or trade).

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Give Strome the C

it’s the trade equivalent of the kiss of death for this organization

 

[Avery16]

Scratch Toews off the wish list

 

[Avery16]

 

[Edge]

Wouldn't that be a good reason to name his captain though (provided they think he deserves it)? If they decided not to re-up him in two years (which as of now I disagree with but could change based on his play) that would leave the C open for Lafreniere (or someone else) to take over at that point. If they gave it to Kreider that wouldn't be an option without taking it away from him which happens sometimes but isn't really the right thing to do to one of your most well-respected and longest tenured players.

All that being said I really don't care who is named the Captain or think it matters much.

Personally, if I was going to venture a guess, I'd say that for some of the reasons you touched on, or the uncertainty surrounding those topics, they might be more inclined to leave well enough alone for now.

I haven't received any indication that naming a captain was something that was seen as a priority to this point --- though it would be interesting to see if that's changed in a post-Lundqvist world.

As part of my guess, and it's only that at this point, I think they probably view Zibanejad and Kreider as guys who help transition between two eras, and serve as trusted leadership advisors/consultants, but not necessarily serve as "the captain."

In more humorous terms, I would say there's a strong belief in leaving Zibanejad and Kreider as caporegimes with the hope that Don Lafreniere emerges in a manner that everyone seemingly expects him to.

 

[Edge]

If we don't have a #1C emerge in the next 2 years, there is no way we can lose Mika to FA (or trade).

I strongly believe one way or the other, that issue will be addressed --- either internally or, quite possibly, externally.

 

[Thirty One]

Rangers official site roster has added a bunch more players, but not all the players under contract:
New York Rangers 2019 Roster

I wonder if that's the camp roster. Only thing I noticed is Tarmo isn't on there.