Risto v Rielly

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I'll take the player that plays defence, Risto all day.

You omitted the word "terribly" from your post

 

[ijuka]

Generally, Ristolainen's terrible defense would make me vote against him in most of these comparison polls.

However, here we have one player who has even worse defense. So this is Ristolainen due to his vastly superior offensive play.

 

[tony d]

Risto for me.

 

[sparxx87]

Ristolainen and it's not even close. Why we are comparing one of the NHL better defenders to Rielly?

We’re not. We’re comparing Ristolainen to Rielly.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Better at driving posession with harder zone starts, higher expected goals, and can actually play defense.

You're a frequent poster and simple logic tells me if we start comparing the times you've made an opinion that favors the Leafs player or belittles the opposing player countered to how often you've gone against your teams player.... well it's not looking good for you.

We're all prone to being biased, I probably make biased assessments more frequently than I'd like to admit but you're running a constant agenda here and it doesn't promote a progressive conversation towards either direction.

 

[Apotheosis]

Rielly. Don't know how you can argue differently.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Just go check any Buffalo post game thread for their current thoughts on Ristolainen.

Right now this is Rielly, both the eye test and numbers back that up.

 

[The Macho King]

Odd results... I would take Rielly easily here.

 

[Maplebeasts]

I'll take the player that plays defence, Risto all day.

Spoken like some one who hasn't spent a second watching either player. Embarrasing.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I like Rielly better. He's been facing the toughest competition and doing well at it, even at the expense of not getting much PP time (ie..points).

Ristolainen had 25 PP points last year with over 3 min/game on the PP vs. Rielly's .58 s/ game (mostly mop up duty). If Rielly had more PP time with the potent Leaf's PP, he'd have way more points. ES, Rielly had 22 points and RR had 19. Rielly is better defensively than RR as well.

 

[Apotheosis]

Spoken like some one who hasn't spent a second watching either player. Embarrasing.

Nah. He just hates the Leafs. You can see it in his posts on the main board.

 

[Breakers]

Definitely Reilly

Risto struggled to produce offense unless he is on the PP.
He had the same 5V5 Points percentage as Cody Franson last year.

Plus Risto can't play defense. Reilly isn't great at defense, but Risto is absolutely brutal.

 

[DFF]

Risto, at least he puts up points

Reilly is no good at defense and nothing special on offense

 

[biturbo19]

I'd give the edge to Ristolainen. I think with better support around him, he can be the more dynamic presence on the blueline. But in some ways, Rielly might be the safer bet. He performs well without a lot of support either. Just a bit more limited in dynamic upside, physically...and as a scoring factor.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

honestly shocked that Risto is winning the poll... Rielly is definitely the better Dman

 

[1specter]

Generally, Ristolainen's terrible defense would make me vote against him in most of these comparison polls.

However, here we have one player who has even worse defense. So this is Ristolainen due to his vastly superior offensive play.

Rielly is much better defensively and it's not really close.

 

[1specter]

honestly shocked that Risto is winning the poll... Rielly is definitely the better Dman

One thing on Hf I've learned is that big D who score a lot no matter how porous defensively they are always get massively overrated. People see 6'4, 200+ lbs and 40+ pts and just assume the guy is a defensive stud.

 

[Snippit]

Based on their play last season: Risto
Based on their play this season: Rielly

Risto has been pretty bad so far in the year, no question about it. But he looked way better last year so I'm hoping this is a slump.

If Risto carries on like this it's definitely Rielly

 

[DanM]

Generally, Ristolainen's terrible defense would make me vote against him in most of these comparison polls.

However, here we have one player who has even worse defense. So this is Ristolainen due to his vastly superior offensive play.

 

[Kase]

I've been pretty high on Ristolainen for long time and preferred him over Rielly who isn't really anything special either, but Risto hasn't progressed the way I thought he would, so I have to go with Rielly this time.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

One thing on Hf I've learned is that big D who score a lot no matter how porous defensively they are always get massively overrated. People see 6'4, 200+ lbs and 40+ pts and just assume the guy is a defensive stud.

Zaitsev says hi.

 

[Mugzy97]

Zaitsev says hi.

What? Who is Nikita saying hi to?

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

What? Who is Nikita saying hi to?

Oh just thought it was an ironic considering the Zaitsev vs Larsson poll where the opposite is generally being touted. Leaf logic.

 

[Mugzy97]

Oh just thought it was an ironic considering the Zaitsev vs Larsson poll where the opposite is generally being touted. Leaf logic.

Oh sorry I didn't know you were emotionally crushed by these polls.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Risto has everything in his game except the one thing that players usually develop later on; Solid defense. He's still a kid, even though he doesn't look it and he has a lot of time to develop into a monster.