Red Wings Prospect Tracker - Part VII

[Chance on Chance]

anyone else having issues with the OHL and QMJHL sites?

yup, and the AHL site

 

[SimplySolace]

Mantha with 1G, 3A tonight.. wow.

 

[Frk It]

I thought Andersson had some interesting quotes on the Swedes in the latest RWC article.

On Janmark

“He gets to the net from anywhere — you give him the puck in the neutral zone with speed and he’s very dangerous, very tenacious on the puck in the offensive zone,†Andersson said. “Even if the team loses the puck, he’s often the guy to win it back in the offensive zone and make something happen. He’s a little bit like Nyquist when he’s on the game. He chases the puck, wins it back and then makes something happen all of a sudden.â€

On Jarnkrok

Andersson also weighed in on the slow adjustment to North America for prized Swedish prospect Calle Jarnkrok. “In some situations, he’s too easy to contain,†Andersson said. “If he had another 10 pounds on, he could break away a little easier and get more room for his skill and quick shot because he has a lot of good (offensive assets).†Andersson said a good summer of training will make a big difference. “Next year could be his year,†he said. “The way I see it, he’s one of the more talented prospects we have, but there’s work to be done, no doubt about it.â€

http://www.redwingscentral.com/2014/01/20/4345/janmark-emerging-as-very-dangerous-scorer/

 

[Frk It]

Also thought this was pretty crazy for a hockey player (regarding Janmark)

The 21-year-old forward’s success is a testament to his natural talent because he only started training his lower body this summer. According to Andersson, doctors had told Janmark to avoid it because of a knee injury he sustained when he was younger.

“From (ages) 16 to 20, he didn’t do all that stuff that every hockey player lives for in the summer,” Andersson said. “This is was his first summer with some kind of real training. Can you tell on the ice? A little bit. Does he need another summer or two? Yes, for sure.

Kid's got his work cut out for him. But naturally he's supposed to be pretty fast, and he has a big frame already. Maybe once he gets his training up, he'll go an even higher level with his game.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Also thought this was pretty crazy for a hockey player (regarding Janmark)



Kid's got his work cut out for him. But naturally he's supposed to be pretty fast, and he has a big frame already. Maybe once he gets his training up, he'll go an even higher level with his game.

I know the cliche is that hockey strength is core strength, but leg strength is a huge part too. I have to think it'll make him stronger on the puck and a little more explosive. He's already a good skater, so it ought to be interesting to watch.

 

[Brandel*]

Is it Ath-an-a (like hey or age)-zhoo or Ath-an-as-zhoo? Ath-an-uh-see-you?

or any of the other ones? There are some pretty funny highlights where the PBP guy just gave up on saying his name.

i have a friend with the same last name and it's pronounced this way, but ive heard commentators pronounce it differently

Mantha finished 1+4

 

[Run the Jewels]

I know the cliche is that hockey strength is core strength, but leg strength is a huge part too. I have to think it'll make him stronger on the puck and a little more explosive. He's already a good skater, so it ought to be interesting to watch.

Yeah, this is true. In fact core strength really cannot be trained without also training the lower body. With one summer of real weight training under his legs - no pun intended - he's showing very clear development. Janmark sure seems like a classic Red Wings steal. The guy finally gets healthy and then blows up.

 

[Brandel*]

Paterson 35/37 tonight

He has really picked up his play since the wjc

 

[ChadS]

Mantha's 5 points:

 

[gbdet]

I like that Mantha passed off the chance for an empty net goal. He very easily could have had it.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Paterson 35/37 tonight

He has really picked up his play since the wjc

Good for him. Glad to see him get it back on track.

 

[Xvash2]

I like that Mantha passed off the chance for an empty net goal. He very easily could have had it.

Doesn't really need it

 

[mindfly]

1 goal for Mantha in a 8-5 loss (!)

 

[ChadS]

Pope 3 goals, 1 assist and 2nd star last night. 18+14=32 in 32 games.

 

[Brandel*]

Pope 3 goals, 1 assist and 2nd star last night. 18+14=32 in 32 games.

Do you run the twitter account DRWProspects?

 

[ProPAIN]

Do you run the twitter account DRWProspects?

Yeah, he does.

 

[ChadS]

Red Wings Central's mid-season ranking:

NO. PROSPECT NAME POS HT WT AGE TEAM
01 Anthony Mantha (+3) RW 6.05 204 19 Val-d’Or (QMJHL)
02 Petr Mrazek (–) G 6.01 187 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
03 Tomas Jurco (–) RW 6.01 200 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
04 Calle Jarnkrok (-3) C 6.00 188 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
05 Riley Sheahan (+1) C 6.02 215 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
06 Xavier Ouellet (-1) D 6.00 200 20 Grand Rapids (AHL)
07 Ryan Sproul (–) D 6.04 205 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
08 Mattias Backman (–) D 6.02 169 21 Linkoping (SHL)
09 Alexey Marchenko (+4) D 6.02 212 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
10 Andreas Athanasiou (+4) LW/C 6.02 200 19 Barrie (OHL)
11 Luke Glendening (-1) C 5.11 195 24 Grand Rapids (AHL)
12 Landon Ferraro (-3) C 6.00 179 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
13 Teemu Pulkkinen (-2) RW 5.11 185 23 Grand Rapids (AHL)
14 Adam Almquist (-2) D 5.11 178 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
15 Mattias Janmark (+1) C 6.01 191 21 AIK (SHL)
16 Mitchell Callahan (+4) RW 6.00 195 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
17 Zach Nastasiuk (-2) RW 6.02 196 18 Owen Sound (OHL)
18 Jake Paterson (+1) G 6.01 183 19 Saginaw (OHL)
19 Martin Frk (-2) RW 6.00 205 20 Grand Rapids (AHL)
T20 Nick Jensen (-2) D 6.01 193 23 Grand Rapids (AHL)
T20 Tyler Bertuzzi (–) LW 6.01 178 18 Guelph (OHL)

Article: http://www.redwingscentral.com/2014/01/27/4435/star-talent-puts-mantha-no-1/

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Mostly agree with this. Athanasiou is quite high as is Glendening, in my mind. Pulkkinen could be higher, Callahan too.

 

[WesNichols14]

Red Wings Central's mid-season ranking:

NO. PROSPECT NAME POS HT WT AGE TEAM
01 Anthony Mantha (+3) RW 6.05 204 19 Val-d’Or (QMJHL)
02 Petr Mrazek (–) G 6.01 187 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
03 Tomas Jurco (–) RW 6.01 200 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
04 Calle Jarnkrok (-3) C 6.00 188 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
05 Riley Sheahan (+1) C 6.02 215 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
06 Xavier Ouellet (-1) D 6.00 200 20 Grand Rapids (AHL)
07 Ryan Sproul (–) D 6.04 205 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
08 Mattias Backman (–) D 6.02 169 21 Linkoping (SHL)
09 Alexey Marchenko (+4) D 6.02 212 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
10 Andreas Athanasiou (+4) LW/C 6.02 200 19 Barrie (OHL)
11 Luke Glendening (-1) C 5.11 195 24 Grand Rapids (AHL)
12 Landon Ferraro (-3) C 6.00 179 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
13 Teemu Pulkkinen (-2) RW 5.11 185 23 Grand Rapids (AHL)
14 Adam Almquist (-2) D 5.11 178 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
15 Mattias Janmark (+1) C 6.01 191 21 AIK (SHL)
16 Mitchell Callahan (+4) RW 6.00 195 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
17 Zach Nastasiuk (-2) RW 6.02 196 18 Owen Sound (OHL)
18 Jake Paterson (+1) G 6.01 183 19 Saginaw (OHL)
19 Martin Frk (-2) RW 6.00 205 20 Grand Rapids (AHL)
T20 Nick Jensen (-2) D 6.01 193 23 Grand Rapids (AHL)
T20 Tyler Bertuzzi (–) LW 6.01 178 18 Guelph (OHL)

Article: http://www.redwingscentral.com/2014/01/27/4435/star-talent-puts-mantha-no-1/

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Mostly agree with this. Athanasiou is quite high as is Glendening, in my mind. Pulkkinen could be higher, Callahan too.

Pulkkinen is kind of low to me. he's scoring well in a tough league.

 

[waltdetroit]

"IN THE MIX: Goaltender Thomas McCollum (Grand Rapids, AHL) has reestablished himself as an option for the Red Wings and will likely be re-signed in the summer to be Detroit’s third-stringer … Center Andrej Nestrasil is no longer a highly-touted third-round pick, but he is suddenly a regular in Grand Rapids. Keep an eye on him next season …"

I wonder if they mean DRW or GRG contracts? Either way it'll be good to have them both back if it works out that way

 

[Konnan511]

Pulkkinen is kind of low to me. he's scoring well in a tough league.

Agreed, I'd put him in that tenth spot.

 

[ProPAIN]

Red Wings Central's mid-season ranking:

NO. PROSPECT NAME POS HT WT AGE TEAM
01 Anthony Mantha (+3) RW 6.05 204 19 Val-d’Or (QMJHL)
02 Petr Mrazek (–) G 6.01 187 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
03 Tomas Jurco (–) RW 6.01 200 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
04 Calle Jarnkrok (-3) C 6.00 188 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
05 Riley Sheahan (+1) C 6.02 215 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
06 Xavier Ouellet (-1) D 6.00 200 20 Grand Rapids (AHL)
07 Ryan Sproul (–) D 6.04 205 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
08 Mattias Backman (–) D 6.02 169 21 Linkoping (SHL)
09 Alexey Marchenko (+4) D 6.02 212 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
10 Andreas Athanasiou (+4) LW/C 6.02 200 19 Barrie (OHL)
11 Luke Glendening (-1) C 5.11 195 24 Grand Rapids (AHL)
12 Landon Ferraro (-3) C 6.00 179 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
13 Teemu Pulkkinen (-2) RW 5.11 185 23 Grand Rapids (AHL)
14 Adam Almquist (-2) D 5.11 178 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
15 Mattias Janmark (+1) C 6.01 191 21 AIK (SHL)
16 Mitchell Callahan (+4) RW 6.00 195 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
17 Zach Nastasiuk (-2) RW 6.02 196 18 Owen Sound (OHL)
18 Jake Paterson (+1) G 6.01 183 19 Saginaw (OHL)
19 Martin Frk (-2) RW 6.00 205 20 Grand Rapids (AHL)
T20 Nick Jensen (-2) D 6.01 193 23 Grand Rapids (AHL)
T20 Tyler Bertuzzi (–) LW 6.01 178 18 Guelph (OHL)

Article: http://www.redwingscentral.com/2014/01/27/4435/star-talent-puts-mantha-no-1/

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Mostly agree with this. Athanasiou is quite high as is Glendening, in my mind. Pulkkinen could be higher, Callahan too.

Agreed. Callahan is playing better than Ferraro so he should at least be a few spots higher. Pulkkinen is probably our best forward in GR right now with all the prospects up in the NHL.

 

[The Zermanator]

I think Pulkinnen and Janmark are too low. Should both be ahead of Ferraro and Glendening.

 

[probertrules24]

Red Wings Central's mid-season ranking:

NO. PROSPECT NAME POS HT WT AGE TEAM
01 Anthony Mantha (+3) RW 6.05 204 19 Val-d’Or (QMJHL)
02 Petr Mrazek (–) G 6.01 187 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
03 Tomas Jurco (–) RW 6.01 200 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
04 Calle Jarnkrok (-3) C 6.00 188 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
05 Riley Sheahan (+1) C 6.02 215 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
06 Xavier Ouellet (-1) D 6.00 200 20 Grand Rapids (AHL)
07 Ryan Sproul (–) D 6.04 205 21 Grand Rapids (AHL)
08 Mattias Backman (–) D 6.02 169 21 Linkoping (SHL)
09 Alexey Marchenko (+4) D 6.02 212 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
10 Andreas Athanasiou (+4) LW/C 6.02 200 19 Barrie (OHL)
11 Luke Glendening (-1) C 5.11 195 24 Grand Rapids (AHL)
12 Landon Ferraro (-3) C 6.00 179 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
13 Teemu Pulkkinen (-2) RW 5.11 185 23 Grand Rapids (AHL)
14 Adam Almquist (-2) D 5.11 178 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
15 Mattias Janmark (+1) C 6.01 191 21 AIK (SHL)
16 Mitchell Callahan (+4) RW 6.00 195 22 Grand Rapids (AHL)
17 Zach Nastasiuk (-2) RW 6.02 196 18 Owen Sound (OHL)
18 Jake Paterson (+1) G 6.01 183 19 Saginaw (OHL)
19 Martin Frk (-2) RW 6.00 205 20 Grand Rapids (AHL)
T20 Nick Jensen (-2) D 6.01 193 23 Grand Rapids (AHL)
T20 Tyler Bertuzzi (–) LW 6.01 178 18 Guelph (OHL)

Article: http://www.redwingscentral.com/2014/01/27/4435/star-talent-puts-mantha-no-1/

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Mostly agree with this. Athanasiou is quite high as is Glendening, in my mind. Pulkkinen could be higher, Callahan too.

Can't say I agree with these. I love Mantha and think he will be good but no way he sniffs the #1 spot for me. Not this year. These rankings look like they way to heavy on projections and not where the players are in their development.

 

[Henkka]

Can't say I agree with these. I love Mantha and think he will be good but no way he sniffs the #1 spot for me. Not this year. These rankings look like they way to heavy on projections and not where the players are in their development.

For me, the only way I like to see those rankings is definitely with projections.

 

[probertrules24]

For me, the only way I like to see those rankings is definitely with projections.

For me if a guy is putting up 80 points against junior players and the other guy is putting up 40 points in a pro league I rate the other guy higher even though the first guy may have more upside. Once he starts playing pro he then can leap right to number 1 if he proves it.

Just me I guess. I like to see prospects prove it against tougher competiion that is closer to what they will see in the NHL. Helps me keep my expectations in check while their still developing as teenagers.