Rebuilding Thread: The Hunt for GM/Coach - Chiarelli fired, McLellan 'leaving' SJ

[The Winter Soldier]

Yeah...look how it all turned out. He blew up the farm and couldn't get over the hill.

Talk to me when inexperience can just get us a front seat to view the hill. Still better than anyone else has done the past 48 years.

Seeing Maple Leafs square when the Leafs made the playoffs once a decade confirms my feelings on this.

 

[Liminality]

Joe Thornton: "Todd has to talk to his family. Maybe he should talk to this family as well in here"

Ouch

Dang, is there an article on this somewhere or is just from some tweets?

 

[Mansfield]

i'd be interested in mclellan...kind of. not really interested in chiarelli

 

[Reddaye]

yeah and what did Shero do exactly that inspires many to have him here...that he won a cup based on luck? based on having the best player this league has seen since Gretzky? What did he do? His depth sucked all the time, his teams failed miserably in the playoffs most of the time. I want him nowhere near this team. And he also sucked at the draft table.

Well in my own defense I said if we were to hire someone with experience I'd probably take Shero, or McPhee.

What GM with experience is on the market right now that really fits the bill any better? The same things you can say about Shero (aside from Crosby) can be applied to guys like Chia, McPhee, Wilson (if he's fired), etc. These guys are available because they failed (generally speaking). So we're bringing in a failure essentially.

I'd much rather see us get Fenton, Futa, or Brisebois.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Dang, is there an article on this somewhere or is just from some tweets?

Retweeted by Friedman

 

[Daisy Jane]

Joe Thornton: "Todd has to talk to his family. Maybe he should talk to this family as well in here"

Ouch

Joe is angry.

 

[WilliamNylander]

Dang, is there an article on this somewhere or is just from some tweets?

Damien Cox RT it.

edit: Leafs at Knight posted the tweet above

 

[Warden of the North]

Experience is overrated. Get smart people. Experience got us into this disaster

 

[Divine]

Chiarelli is like a minuture Burke, in terms of ego. He traded away Kessel & Seguin - I do not want him.

McLellan may have ruined the SJ lockerroom, with multiple players taking shots - not interested in him.

#BringBackDallasEakins

 

[budzz]

Originally Posted by WilliamNylander View Post
Joe Thornton: "Todd has to talk to his family. Maybe he should talk to this family as well in here"

Ouch

Geez that Thornton's really something.... didn't he just tell his GM to "shut his mouth" about a month ago??? Even if it was warranted, ugh. Sounds like maybe Joe should be doin' the shuttin' - says a bit about why he's not the Captain anymore.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Experience is overrated. Get smart people. Experience got us into this disaster

well. there are a lot of people who look at the world through a certain lens -i think so many people bang this drum of "do what has always been done before."

all throughout history, people looked at people who thought different as complete insane people, even where you can look at it now, and go. "they were 100 percent, right."

This isn't the case every single time, of course.

Experience is something that you gain with time. You can not get experience, without first being put in the situation to get some, and you'll never get anywhere in life if all your ever told is "come back when you get experience."

Vision/forsight should also be equally as valued, and I hope considered. I'm not pushing either one at the forefront, just that it is all considered and weighed equally. this good ole boys club needs to stop.

 

[carko32]

Chiarelli might get a 2nd opportunity to trade Phil Kessel

Me too, I would hope that he can get the same return

 

[Shwaguy*]

Don't want a retread GM. Look at most of the successful GM Situations in the league. They're usually assistant GM's on successful teams beforehand.

 

[mikebel111*]

Chiarelli is like a minuture Burke, in terms of ego. He traded away Kessel & Seguin - I do not want him.

McLellan may have ruined the SJ lockerroom, with multiple players taking shots - not interested in him.

#BringBackDallasEakins

Lol he didnt ruin that locker room. Sharks fans are even saying Todd isnt at fault here. There are some cancer players in that room. Like Thornton
And yes I would like Eakins, we might go 0-82. Perfect tank coach

Would love Todd here

 

[hockeywiz542]

TSN Hockey Analyst Ray Ferraro joins Bryan Hayes to discuss the Bruins firing Peter Chiarelli and if he thinks he would be a good fit for GM of the Leafs.

http://iphone.tsn.ca/tsnpodcasts/BH_Ferraro_Apr15.mp3

 

[Reddaye]

Every coach wears out their welcome after a while. Particularly if you've got the same core group of players the entire time.

McLellan was the coach in San Jose for how long? Seven years?

I'd say things ran their natural course.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Host of TSN Drive Dave Naylor with co-host Dave Feschuk speak with TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger about the Peter Chiarelli firing and whether he will join the Maple Leafs.

http://iphone.tsn.ca/tsnpodcasts/DN_Dreger_Apr15.mp3

 

[burpsalot]

Dave Naylor just posed a very interesting question on TSN Drive.

If MLSE had a choice today of hiring an experienced winner as the New Team President, Peter Chiarelli or bringing in a guy with no track record that is still learning on the job, as we have in Brendan Shanahan. Who would they hire today?

Not as interesting as you may think. One of the issues with the NHL is the retread of management. One team fire a guy, next team hires that same guy, round & round it went. MLSE went off the reservation & took a new route, Shanahan has looked for new blood & methods as well. So the move by MLSE to break the retread pattern looks intentional.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I don't get this. A coach or GM is out of the playoffs one year, even though in the case of Chia, he led the team to two Stanley Cup Finals (one that was only two seasons ago) and a Stanley Cup win like 4 years ago. Chara gets injured and that leads him to getting fired because his team was just barely edged out of the playoffs. I think decisions like that are a little bit shortsighted. McLellan makes a little bit of sense. Even though he's led his team to 7 straight playoff years (or whatever it is), he hasn't gotten far in them, so I can see why management would want to let him go. He'd be good here though, I wouldn't mind McLellan.

 

[Riellyfan04]

thornton is something else,, wonder why sharks never won the cup

 

[Reddaye]

I don't get this. A coach or GM is out of the playoffs one year, even though in the case of Chia, he led the team to two Stanley Cup Finals (one that was only two seasons ago) and a Stanley Cup win like 4 years ago. Chara gets injured and that leads him to getting fired because his team was just barely edged out of the playoffs. I think decisions like that are a little bit shortsighted. McLellan makes a little bit of sense. Even though he's led his team to 7 straight playoff years (or whatever it is), he hasn't gotten far in them, so I can see why management would want to let him go. He'd be good here though, I wouldn't mind McLellan.

Ray Ferraro mentions the Chiarelli firing today with Brian Hayes and basically says that things in the Boston front office have always seemed a bit strained.

Hell, there was talk of people getting canned the same year they won the Cup. The fact that a Cup was won is seemingly what saved them. From the outside looking in it seems like Neely has just been waiting for an excuse.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Ray Ferraro mentions the Chiarelli firing today with Brian Hayes and basically says that things in the Boston front office have always seemed a bit strained.

Hell, there was talk of people getting canned the same year they won the Cup. The fact that a Cup was won is seemingly what saved them. From the outside looking in it seems like Neely has just been waiting for an excuse.

and if the leafs had beaten them in 2013, they would have been fired too

 

[Rare Jewel]

Retweeted by Friedman

I'm sure he set you guys out to lose 4 games in a row last spring.

Some of those Shark players should have a room around the room.

 

[HEAVY DUTY]

thornton has been nothing but a ****** these last couple of months. running his damn mouth to the media too often.

god i hope he doesn't win a cup. ever.

 

[Reddaye]

and if the leafs had beaten them in 2013, they would have been fired too

Yeah, that as well.

Feels like if Chia had accidentally dropped his pen on the floor that he'd of been fired.