Read old hockey discussions from as far back as 1981 (google groups)

[blood gin]

Meadowlands Rockies

Google Groups

 

[Nerowoy nora tolad]

where were these discussions located during the 80's/early 90's,

I had no idea such a thing existed.

Nobody that I knew discussed anything like the internet growing up during the 80's. My biggest concern on the computer was plaing Bard's Tale on the Tandy desktop.

It was way before my time, but I believe Usenet hosted these discussions. Data was transmitted as audio through the telephone network, where the current day internet uses dedicated broadband cabling.

 

[alko]

this is pretty fun.

Look at this great post:


L. Phan
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More options May 27 1993, 11:19 pm
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Richard John Rauser) writes:

> So who thinks Alex Daigle will be the #1 draft pick this year?

Daigle may go will go number 1, but he's been a no show since Christmas.
If anyone deserves to go number 1, it's Pronger. I would not be surprised
if Yashin is going to be the dominant rookie next season.

GO KINGS!

The next Nostradamus.

 

[alko]

Forget about Anonymity as we know today. It could be very interesting, if someone know this people (plus others).
It seems, that you must fill all your personal data.

Here some examples:
Dean J. Falcione Dean's UNIX Exorcism Service
(using jrmst8 by permission "We kill daemons"
of the owner, Joe McDonald)

George Ferguson ARPA: [email protected]
Dept. of Computer Science UUCP: rutgers!rochester!ferguson
University of Rochester VOX: (716) 275-2527
Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018

Paul Brownlow | What do these men have in common?
Data I/O Corp. Redmond, WA | Jim Lefebvre Chuck Knox
[email protected] | K. C. Jones Peter Anholt

Valerie Hammerl Underemployed technical writer seeks
[email protected] job in North America. Willing to
[email protected] relocate. Can begin any time.
These accounts expire August 24th, 1992.

== Mike Machnik Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
== 508-294-2177 300 Concord Road MA30-819A ==
== [email protected] Billerica, MA 01821 ==




Two things, that are funny:
- Valerie Hammerl seeks job in North America
- Dean J. Falcione using jrmst8 by permission of the owner, Joe McDonald

 

[Xelebes]

So glad this thread got bumped. Missed this the first time it was posted and now. . . oh dear, oh my!

 

[Chimpradamus]

Wow, this is amazing to read. Great find! What a history trip!

 

[blood gin]

----- 12 May 1981 Oldest usenet article in the Google Groups Archive
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-------- May 1981 First mention of Microsoft
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-------- Jun 1981 First mention of Microsoft MS-DOS
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-------- Aug 1981 First review of the IBM-PC
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-------- Oct 1981 TCP/IP Digest #1
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-------- Jun 1982 First mention of Star Wars Episode 6
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-------- Jul 1982 First mention of a compact disc
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-------- Aug 1982 First mention of the Commodore 64
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-------- Aug 1982 First mention of Apple's Lisa and Macintosh products
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-------- Nov 1982 Early reference to emoticons
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-------- Dec 1982 First thread about AIDS
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-------- Jul 1983 First mention of Madonna
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-------- Sep 1983 Stallman's announcement of GNU
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-------- Nov 1983 First mention of Microsoft Windows
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-------- Jan 1984 First reference to Apple's Super Bowl commercial
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-------- Apr 1984 The kremvax hoax
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-------- Aug 1984 First mention of the Commodore Amiga
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-------- Jan 1986 First mention of the Challenger tragedy
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-------- Feb 1986 First mention of the MIR space station
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-------- Sep 1986 Gene Spafford's comments on the Great Renaming
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-------- Mar 1988 First mention of the term 'search engine'
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-------- Nov 1988 The first warning about the Morris Internet Worm
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-------- Nov 1988 Gene Spafford's analysis of how the Internet Worm worked
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-------- Feb 1989 First mention of Internet Relay Chat (IRC)
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-------- Mar 1989 First discussion of cold fusion
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-------- Sep 1989 First mention of AOL
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-------- Oct 1989 First post in alt.hypertext
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-------- Nov 1989 First post from Berlin after the wall came down
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-------- Jul 1991 The kremvax exists!
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-------- Aug 1991 C.E.R.N.'s Announcement of the World Wide Web project
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-------- Sep 1991 Announcement of Internet Gopher
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-------- Oct 1991 Linus Torvalds' Linux announcement
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-------- Dec 1991 First post to alt.religion.kibology by Kibo
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-------- Jan 1992 The famous Linux debate between Andy Tanenbaum and Linus Torvalds
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-------- May 1992 First Usenet post from an AOL account
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-------- Jun 1992 First BOFH post
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-------- Mar 1993 Marc Andreessen's Mosaic announcement
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-------- Apr 1993 Gene Spafford's farewell post
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-------- Apr 1994 First mass spamming (Green Card spam)
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-------- Jun 1994 Announcement of the WebCrawler launch
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-------- Oct 1994 Marc Andreessen's Netscape announcement
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-------- Dec 1994 Early mentions of Yahoo! and Lycos before they were companies
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-------- May 1995 First mention of DejaNews
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-------- Dec 1995 Announcement of the AltaVista launch
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-------- Mar 1998 First mention of Google
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-------- May 1998 First mention of Mac OSX
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-------- Feb 2001 Google acquires Deja archive

 

[Habsfan18]

Glad to see this thread bumped back up again. Keep them coming guys!

 

[Habsfan18]

Going back and reading that Lindros thread in the OP, it’s interesting to see all of the rumored offers.

Calgary: MacInnis, Roberts, Fleury, Vernon, drafts picks and cash.

Toronto: Potvin, Berehowsky, Ellott, 2 forwards to be named later, 2 1st rounders, $20 million cash.

Chicago: Belfour, Larmer, Smith, Dykhuis, McAmmond, Matteau, 1st and cash.

One Chicago fan isn’t too thrilled with the idea of trading Dykhuis.

 

[Habsfan18]

Google Groups

And from this one:

Anyway, this morning a Boston radio station reported the rumor that St Louis
is offering Oates, Brind'Amour, & Paul Cavallini to Quebec for Lindros. I
think the Blues would be getting taken on this one. Could Quebec survive
with that much offense and no defense?
Speaking of which, the hot rumor being bandied about on WEEI (just went to
all-sports in Boston, except for their idiotic morning program) last night
involved Boston sending Bourque to Quebec for Lindros. This intrigues me.
What was most interesting was all the Bruins fans who called up during the
show, shocked that anyone could think of dealing Bourque, and claiming he
was the "best player in the NHL". He's up there, no doubt, but I would
have trouble saying he was *the* best. As far as this deal, considering
that the Bruins have fallen so far behind the rest of the teams in the league
who have great offenses (Pittsburgh is the only Wales team who can compete
with the speedy, offense-minded Wales teams), I think I would make it. I'd
miss Bourque, but throughout his best years he alone still cannot bring
Boston a Cup. I think with Lindros, they'd have a better chance.
It doesn't matter because we aren't going to see it happen. Harry knows
the Jacobs would never pay that kind of money to an 18-year-old kid. He
had trouble getting less than half that to pay Bourque, one of the city's
2 or 3 most popular athletes.

 

[blood gin]

Going back and reading that Lindros thread in the OP, it’s interesting to see all of the rumored offers.

Calgary: MacInnis, Roberts, Fleury, Vernon, drafts picks and cash.

Toronto: Potvin, Berehowsky, Ellott, 2 forwards to be named later, 2 1st rounders, $20 million cash.

Chicago: Belfour, Larmer, Smith, Dykhuis, McAmmond, Matteau, 1st and cash.

One Chicago fan isn’t too thrilled with the idea of trading Dykhuis.

Well, at that time we were talking about a 1st round draft pick defenseman who did impress initially when entering the league. He turned out pretty average but for a brief period in time Dykhuis was looking like a future all star who had size and toughness

 

[Habsfan18]

Well, at that time we were talking about a 1st round draft pick defenseman who did impress initially when entering the league. He turned out pretty average but for a brief period in time Dykhuis was looking like a future all star who had size and toughness

Yeah, from everything I’ve read he was actually highly touted in the early 90’s. Just funny to think now that he was the player Chicago fans were afraid to lose in a potential Eric Lindros trade. I remember watching Dykhuis with the Habs and he was extremely mediocre, bordering on not even NHL quality. Those were some awful, awful Habs teams.

 

[FerrisRox]

An old post from a Habs fan (1981):

http://groups.google.com/group/net....8033069?q=montreal+canadiens#5edcd702c8033069

Lambert was waived, not traded. Despite a good season in Buffalo (second highest scoring forward) he was in the minors the next year for good.

 

[Doctor No]

The responses to that initial 1981 thread (all of which in the past year) are exactly what was wrong with Usenet (which was frequently like that).

 

[1967th Heaven]

Google Groups

This guy saying the Oilers could have a chance at landing 2 first overall picks in 2004 and 2005 to land Ovechkin and Crosby He'd have to wait a few more years for that dream to materialize

 

[MadLuke]

Some of the overrated/underrated conversation feel surrealist:

> Colorado: Over; Sakic. He can't score in the 2nd half. What good is a
> guy who loses it after Christmas?

Forgot Yzerman : biggest choker of them all...

That was about to change big time, but that is good tie about how the Yzerman/Sakic type of player reputation can have changed by winning (I do not remember Sakic not scoring with the Nordiques in the playoff he had 7 goals in 12 games...)

 

[Fixxer]

Google Groups

Paul Brownlow
"I think Scott Niedermeyer is a great player ...
He could be the first San Jose Shark."


(Fixxer/2019) -- Although Falloon performed very well on his first year, it would have been fun to watch how Niedemayer would have performed as the top D, drafted fairly high, on an expansion team.
Tampa did with Hamrlik a few years later, although Tampa didn't keep him.
A "what if" case again. lol

Another one, a visionary :
L. Phan.
"Daigle may go will go number 1, but he's been a no show since Christmas.
If anyone deserves to go number 1, it's Pronger. I would not be surprised
if Yashin is going to be the dominant rookie next season.
GO KINGS!"

 

[Fixxer]

One of the many things that changed as time goes on...
Google Groups
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1/31/93 "I heard recently that Maple Leaf Gardens has gone smoke-free ?
That gives me hope that it will happen here in Winnipeg too someday.
(SMOKING is not allowed in the seats but one needs a gas mask during intermission
How common / uncommon are smoke-free arenas ?
(hopefully they are becoming more common. Im told that _IF_ Winnipeg
gets a new arena it will be smoke-free)" ! Wow

2/1/93 "The Civic Centre here in Ottawa is completely smoke-free as of Jan. 1 of this
year. Like in Winnipeg (and most other cities, I imagine), smoking was not
allowed in the seats, but it was in the concourse. Because the smoke was
intolerable by the second intermission, they banned it altogether last month."
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The Smoke-free Ontario Act prohibits smoking in all enclosed workplaces and public places including restaurants, bingo halls, bowling alleys, casinos and bars. Designated smoking rooms permitted only in long-term care facilities and other types of residential facilities. *Dec 1, 2008*

 

[tarheelhockey]

One of the many things that changed as time goes on...
Google Groups
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1/31/93 "I heard recently that Maple Leaf Gardens has gone smoke-free ?
That gives me hope that it will happen here in Winnipeg too someday.
(SMOKING is not allowed in the seats but one needs a gas mask during intermission
How common / uncommon are smoke-free arenas ?
(hopefully they are becoming more common. Im told that _IF_ Winnipeg
gets a new arena it will be smoke-free)" ! Wow

2/1/93 "The Civic Centre here in Ottawa is completely smoke-free as of Jan. 1 of this
year. Like in Winnipeg (and most other cities, I imagine), smoking was not
allowed in the seats, but it was in the concourse. Because the smoke was
intolerable by the second intermission, they banned it altogether last month."
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Smoke-free Ontario Act prohibits smoking in all enclosed workplaces and public places including restaurants, bingo halls, bowling alleys, casinos and bars. Designated smoking rooms permitted only in long-term care facilities and other types of residential facilities. *Dec 1, 2008*

What's funny about this is that arenas actually WERE smoke-free back in the very old days, because cigarrettes were a fire hazard in wooden bleachers and the low ceilings didn't allow the smoke to disperse. There was about a 50-60 year period after the construction of the "classic" generation of arenas where it came back into practice. Someone who was born in 1910 and died in 2000 would have lived to see smoking permitted, then banned, then permitted again, then banned again.

 

[kaiser matias]

What's funny about this is that arenas actually WERE smoke-free back in the very old days, because cigarrettes were a fire hazard in wooden bleachers and the low ceilings didn't allow the smoke to disperse. There was about a 50-60 year period after the construction of the "classic" generation of arenas where it came back into practice. Someone who was born in 1910 and died in 2000 would have lived to see smoking permitted, then banned, then permitted again, then banned again.

It was also really bad for spectators, with several reports being the clouds formed, plus the dim lighting of the era, made it near impossible to see the puck at times.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It was also really bad for spectators, with several reports being the clouds formed, plus the dim lighting of the era, made it near impossible to see the puck at times.

So bad that the players even complained about smoke fog at ice level at some games, making it hard to breathe deeply.

 

[Habsfan18]

Google Groups

This guy speculates in 1986 on what Toronto could get back in a potential Rick Vaive trade.

 

[Habsfan18]

Google Groups

This Habs fan speculates in 1992 on who be thinks would be on Serge Savard’s “untouchables” list.

 

[Habsfan18]

Google Groups

An apparent “rumor” in 1994 would see Felix Potvin head to the Canucks for Petr Nedved and “another player.”

 

[Habsfan18]

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.hockey/c/sktYwzIiYY0/m/QU4cY_5Fou4J

Discussion from 1997 debating whether Mario Lemieux is the greatest player ever.