GDT: Quarterfinal • Finland vs. Canada • Part IV

[dmacgreg37]

I didn't think it was that big of a deal.

2 minutes was the right call IMO.

Agreed. Definitely seen it called 5+Gm before, but had no issue with 2 min there.

 

[NyQuil]

Honestly, this game Finland won because of Virtanens 2+2. Dont know what he was thinking...Anyway thanks for a great game...Some has to win and some loose.

That and the crazy Hicketts delay of game.

Delays of game really haunt this team from time to time.

The WCs in 2008 for example - over the glass in OT.

 

[Marlander93]

Congrats, that doesn't make the point any less true. Hockey IQ and regular intelligence aren't the same thing, and have little bearing on one another.

The guy just cost Canada the game and blamed the officiating. He sounds like a complete jackass.

 

[Breakers]

Worst in history eh? Alrighty then

He must have forgot about Frederick Gauthier

 

[dmacgreg37]

The guy just cost Canada the game and blamed the officiating. He sounds like a complete jackass.

He's 19, and talking in the heat of the moment. That happens. Does it mean he's unable to "take courses online" as you put it. Of course not, just an ignorant comment.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

I agree on the first part. The second part is a SERIOUS overstatement.

Is it? Benning allegedly loaned Virtanen to Canada with the agreement that he'd receive top six minutes. He contributed nothing offensively, was mostly a pedestrian physically and took costly penalties. And then he goes off about the refs in the post game interview.

Benning and Linden can't be happy with the kid. He was representing the Canucks as an NHLer and he was embarrassing to watch. And this is coming from a fan of his game/skillset. He was baaaaaad.

 

[dmacgreg37]

Is it? Benning allegedly loaned Virtanen to Canada with the agreement that he'd receive top six minutes. He contributed nothing offensively, was mostly a pedestrian physically and took costly penalties. And then he goes off about the refs in the post game interview.

Benning and Linden can't be happy with the kid. He was representing the Canucks as an NHLer and he was embarrassing to watch. And this is coming from a fan of his game/skillset. He was baaaaaad.

Not being pleased with him is a far cry from embarrassed and ashamed.

 

[Marlander93]

He's 19, and talking in the heat of the moment. That happens. Does it mean he's unable to "take courses online" as you put it. Of course not, just an ignorant comment.

Nobody knows for sure. But if I had to put money on it, I would not be confident at all that Virtanen would be the brightest guy in the room lol.

 

[leaflover]

Problem is those returning forwards are going to be similar to Virtanen this year. It's not great when you're expecting energy players from the year before to step in and produce a lot of offense.

I don't think Jake will be attending any Mensa conferences in the near future but I do think the expectations on him were a bit weird. He definitely should have had a better all around tournament no doubt but he wasn't producing last year either. I don't want to say he was still injured but he hadn't played for 3 weeks prior to the tournament so I have no clue why TC wanted him there given the situation.

Just again, a strange roster from top to bottom.

They don't necessarily need to create large amounts of offense but would need to provide greater offensive support next year. This years returnees were disappointing i'll admit but that's not the norm. I could see 8-10 skaters return for another shot, not so sure about Blackwood though as he's the only eligible goaltender. But hey, if he's hot heading up to it, he may just end up with another crack at it. I don't know of any younger Canadian goaltenders that are currently highly regarded.

 

[matzz]

That and the crazy Hicketts delay of game.

Delays of game really haunt this team from time to time.

The WCs in 2008 for example - over the glass in OT.

Yeah, Nash against Russia, remember it well though im Finnish, sucks.

 

[dmacgreg37]

Nobody knows for sure. But if I had to put money on it, I would not be confident at all that Virtanen would be the brightest guy in the room lol.

Neat. You might be right, but to assume it is stupid.

 

[McAsuno]

Is it? Benning allegedly loaned Virtanen to Canada with the agreement that he'd receive top six minutes. He contributed nothing offensively, was mostly a pedestrian physically and took costly penalties. And then he goes off about the refs in the post game interview.

Benning and Linden can't be happy with the kid. He was representing the Canucks as an NHLer and he was embarrassing to watch. And this is coming from a fan of his game/skillset. He was baaaaaad.

I had high expectations for Virtanen based on him being a returnee while having NHL experience. That should have made him as a leader for this team. Rather than being a leader who could contribute offensively, he took so many dumb penalties that killed Canada's momentum. He had the worst tournament as a Canadian forward this year by far.

 

[Breakers]

he was better 5 on 5 than most of our forwards. Skilled players tend to turn pucks over more often, just ask guys like karlsson and subban. Barzal and strome both were, but barzal was invisible for more of the tournament than marner was.

not even close

 

[Plural]

Man what a game. It wasn't beautiful, it wasn't clean. But man was it entertaining. And as a Finn, I'm happy as a beagle. If I were a Canadian, I'd be devastated. But it was a strong fight and could have easily gone other way.

Thanks for the game fellow hockey fans!

 

[thepuckmonster]

Nobody knows for sure. But if I had to put money on it, I would not be confident at all that Virtanen would be the brightest guy in the room lol.

Question his hockey IQ all you want but insulting the non-hockey related intelligence of a 19 year old just looks petty.

 

[NyQuil]

That Finland line sure is explosive though.

Exciting for the fans.

If they had a complete team around them, I'd be pretty confident in a gold medal.

 

[Marlander93]

Neat. You might be right, but to assume it is stupid.

All signs lead to stupidity lol.

 

[paragon]

Turin and Nagano were pretty different.

In Nagano, they lost to Hasek and a strong Czech team that went on to win a whole bunch of Gold medals across multiple events.

Turin was the worst best-on-best Canadian team of all-time.

Well to be honest all the European teams had amazing rosters in Nagano and Turin, but I still think there's has to be more to it. And it's not just Canada. It's USA also. You just dominate way more when they play on home ice.

Even in Sochi Canada looked really unimpressive despite having an amazing roster on paper. Maybe because Babcock made them play extremely defensive.

 

[dmacgreg37]

All signs lead to stupidity lol.

Several posts certainly have

 

[PAZ]

Dermott did barely anything to contribute in the whole tournament. Chabot was Canada's best d man.

Which is more of a testament of how bad Canada's defense was, Chabot wasn't great. He choked in the Finland game, lots of bad turnovers late into the game.

Strome and Konecny were the only players on Canada that were decent. The rest were varying levels of garbage (to Canada's standards).

 

[Marlander93]

Several posts certainly have

cute

 

[NyQuil]

Even in Sochi Canada looked really unimpressive despite having an amazing roster on paper. Maybe because Babcock made them play extremely defensive.

I don't think they gave up a lead in the entire tournament.

 

[Crosbyfan]

What a game.
Now i truly understand how great tournament world juniors are.

As a Finn i'm really happy that i had chance to go Hartwall Arena in preliminary round and watch our future NHL stars.
I know entire Canada is shocked for this loss and there's might be so many excuses etc speculations what Canada should had done better.

Thank you great game Canada and good luck for future.
We won this time.

This team Finland proved me really wrong.
When i gave a lot harsh and brutal critic after that horrible game against Russia.

I'll learn my lesson about this case and next time i'll believe to my country's team.
Next Monday we'll face your dear neighbors from Sweden that'll be another huge challenge. THANK YOU U20 TEAM FINLAND

Certainly entertaining and lots of talent on display but I don't believe this was was two of the better teams in the tourbament. Good luck though, anything can happen

 

[NyQuil]

He choked in the Finland game, lots of bad turnovers late into the game.

He set up the first Canadian goal. (is that 3 games in a row where he did so?)

He had one bad play where his man beat him wide.

I think "choked" is a bit silly.

I wouldn't say he put out an all-star performance but he was as good if not better than anyone else on D for Canada.

 

[thepuckmonster]

I don't think they gave up a lead in the entire tournament.

They didn't.

I think people expected a more dominant offensive performance given the roster but that team was air tight defensively.