Speculation: Projecting the 2021 Seattle Expansion protection list and who the Wild lose

[DeagleJenkins]

I understand the situation just fine.

paying a 4th defender for 2 years then a cheap orourke can hopefully step in not that far fetched.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Okay, so his play was starting to fall from where it once was. No one is disagreeing there. Which free agents are going to provide more value, even with declining play, and be willing to sign a 1-year term? How is defense priority #3, when we currently (assuming Soucy is taken) have 3 defenseman with NHL experience on the roster and the GM is feuding with one of the two best immediate placements in the system?

I don't understand BG's angle on this one either.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Just throwing out some names that could be a possibility

Niklas Hjalmarsson - I don't think his cap hit would be that significant. Previously signed a 2yr/5mill contract that's up. Still not a bad player.
Jake McCabe - Bit of a wild card with the injury but shouldn't command too much due to the injury
Ryan Murray - May be a bit high on the salary but someone to consider
Jamie Oleksiak - If we want some size and grit
Patrik Nemeth - Honestly don't know much about him
Dmitri Kulikov
Braydon Coburn
Adam Larsson - Long shot

 

[Nino Noderreiter]

paying a 4th defender for 2 years then a cheap orourke can hopefully step in not that far fetched.

Why not do the buy-out in 2 years then? It's not paying a 4th defender for cheap, it's now having to navigate a $7.5m cap hold plus pay a 4, 5, and 6 defender for cheap + the $7.5m cap hold.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Why not do the buy-out in 2 years then? It's not paying a 4th defender for cheap, it's now having to navigate a $7.5m cap hold plus pay a 4, 5, and 6 defender for cheap + the $7.5m cap hold.

Well, I think the reason has been discussed ad nausem BUT it clearly wasn't because of on ice performance. Take that how you will.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Why not do the buy-out in 2 years then? It's not paying a 4th defender for cheap, it's now having to navigate a $7.5m cap hold plus pay a 4, 5, and 6 defender for cheap + the $7.5m cap hold.

Suter's hit is $2.4m this year and $6.4m next year.

 

[GuerinUp]

Why not do the buy-out in 2 years then? It's not paying a 4th defender for cheap, it's now having to navigate a $7.5m cap hold plus pay a 4, 5, and 6 defender for cheap + the $7.5m cap hold.

because it was in the best interest of the team....

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Why not do the buy-out in 2 years then? It's not paying a 4th defender for cheap, it's now having to navigate a $7.5m cap hold plus pay a 4, 5, and 6 defender for cheap + the $7.5m cap hold.

as stated above, buyout at this current time was more about the player than his cap hit or on ice performance even i assume.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

because it was in the best interest of the team....

Yet to be seen.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I'm not sure I buy the "it wasn't about performance" aspect.

 

[GuerinUp]

Yet to be seen.

weve heard rumblings surrounding both of them for years as being primadonnas. doesnt surprise me one bit. And i have a little insider information on suter as a friend of mine used to babysit his kids.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Yet to be seen.

Agreed. Depends on what lens you're looking through regarding "best interest for the team"
On ice performance? Next year, probably not.
Changing the "culture" around the team? Maybe immediately. We may never know what occurs behind closed doors, BUT if any of the rumblings were true I would venture to guess that removing said players from the team would alleviate any previous issues (edit) surrounding those players.

 

[2Pair]

i think youre 1) overvaluing the type of return we were going to get on suters play this year and 2) undervaluing the type of deals that will be available during flat cap.

secondly, we dont need 6 million dollar defensemen to play 2nd pairing and win

Lastly, losing soucy gives you another 2.75 million to add to the cap we already have to fill these spots.

sign cole for 1-1.5 mil

sign another LD for a 2.5-3 mil deal

problem solved.

this is like the least of our issues.

Whole lotta fail here

 

[2Pair]

Just throwing out some names that could be a possibility

Niklas Hjalmarsson - I don't think his cap hit would be that significant. Previously signed a 2yr/5mill contract that's up. Still not a bad player.
Jake McCabe - Bit of a wild card with the injury but shouldn't command too much due to the injury
Ryan Murray - May be a bit high on the salary but someone to consider
Jamie Oleksiak - If we want some size and grit
Patrik Nemeth - Honestly don't know much about him
Dmitri Kulikov
Braydon Coburn
Adam Larsson - Long shot

Not one of those guys is even close to the player that Soucy is.

 

[TaLoN]

Why not do the buy-out in 2 years then? It's not paying a 4th defender for cheap, it's now having to navigate a $7.5m cap hold plus pay a 4, 5, and 6 defender for cheap + the $7.5m cap hold.

Cole is likely coming back after expansion.

Signing a 5 cheap is easy. Finding a stop gap 4 isn't tough either. Don't need them to be young like Soucy since they're a stop gap until ROR is ready.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Not one of those guys is even close to the player that Soucy is.

Or Suter…

 

[Olcoach]

Cole is likely coming back after expansion.

Signing a 5 cheap is easy. Finding a stop gap 4 isn't tough either. Don't need them to be young like Soucy since they're a stop gap until ROR is ready.

Are you already writing off Addison, Mennel, and Belipedo?

 

[TaLoN]

Are you already writing off Addison, Mennel, and Belipedo?

Why would I be?

 

[2Pair]

Or Suter…

I guess that probably needs to stated as well now that this board seems to think he's a borderline NHL'er

 

[2Pair]

Cole is likely coming back after expansion.

Signing a 5 cheap is easy. Finding a stop gap 4 isn't tough either. Don't need them to be young like Soucy since they're a stop gap until ROR is ready.

If the Wild were looking for a "stopgap 4" who would you go after?

 

[TaLoN]

If the Wild were looking for a "stopgap 4" who would you go after?

I haven't looked at the UFA list or who may be available in trade, but there's serviceable players available every year... and now with a flat cap, they're going to be affordable as everyone is crunched for space.

Unless you think we're a cup contender this year, we'll find someone to get by with and likely maintain our bubble team status.

 

[Olcoach]

Why would I be?

Just wondering. Your post mentioned Cole at 5and bringing in a stop gap 4 until ROR is ready. Seems like you bypassed the three I mentioned.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Just remember the $8M in cap space we lose next summer when considering these 2 year "stopgaps".

 

[TaLoN]

Just wondering. Your post mentioned Cole at 5and bringing in a stop gap 4 until ROR is ready. Seems like you bypassed the three I mentioned.

I mentioned it because the post I was responding to was talking about it.

Also, since 2 of the spots are LHD, spots, I'm not sure of any of their abilities on the left side vs the right, so wasn't just going to assume they'd slot left either.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Cole is likely coming back after expansion.

Signing a 5 cheap is easy. Finding a stop gap 4 isn't tough either. Don't need them to be young like Soucy since they're a stop gap until ROR is ready.

Mortal blow for any team hoping to get to the 2nd round of the playoffs.

Teams can get caught in this trap for half a decade. Especially they are lacking a true #1 to bring up an inferior top-4.