GDT: PreSeason Game 7: Red Wings at toronto 7:00 pm et 10/5/23 espn+

[gritdash60]

Only thing on red wings i want is that Veleno is kicked the f*** out.

 

[Shaman464]

The kid was literally drafted June 2022. He just had a terrific season in Sweden at 18 and you’re already declaring him a bust in the preseason of 2023. You don’t think you’re being too hasty here?

Terrific is a stretch. Petterson had a terrific D+1. Kaspers was fine but his offense still left a ton to be desired. No one saying he’s a bust but the chances he becomes a top 6 center points wise (50 pt+/season) is low. Because I personally believe that Danielson could be as good or even better offensively than Larkin by definition he’s a better prospect and he changes Kaspers place in the pecking order.

Only thing on red wings i want is that Veleno is kicked the f*** out.

Why? He’s a fine bottom 6 center. He did a dumb thing but no one should be defined by their dumbest moments

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Are you being facetious or have you just been living under a rock the past few weeks

Haven't been watching preseason games its a literal, legit question?

 

[lilidk]

That is the one major difference that seems to be the largest factor: euro ice vs NA ice.

Danielson knows that he has no room to do anything because he has been playing that way his entire life, while Kasper has always enjoyed space, just the nature of two continents. That's probably why Zadina Zadina'd, pulkinnen pulk'd, and whoever else.

I wonder if Stevie and them have been putting more weight into NA ice-time vs Euro in this regard. It's like in college football vs NFL QB's. Anyone can throw a bomb down field to an open receiver streaking (or being lightly covered). The time you know they are going to be a great NFL QB is if they are throwing in tight windows for completions (or should be completions if the WR is capable). I am sure they have thought of this, obviously, just curious if they put more weight in the category than others.

Zadina was NA pick.

 

[Filppula]

Why? He’s a fine bottom 6 center. He did a dumb thing but no one should be defined by their dumbest moments

And he’s done literally all you could ask for in the PS.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Terrific is a stretch. Petterson had a terrific D+1. Kaspers was fine but his offense still left a ton to be desired.

By "terrific" you literally mean "the best of all time"? Pretty high bar, ngl.

 

[Ezekial]

Terrific is a stretch. Petterson had a terrific D+1. Kaspers was fine but his offense still left a ton to be desired. No one saying he’s a bust but the chances he becomes a top 6 center points wise (50 pt+/season) is low. Because I personally believe that Danielson could be as good or even better offensively than Larkin by definition he’s a better prospect and he changes Kaspers place in the pecking order.

I wonder what your opinion on Berggren is and if he could ever be a 50 point NHL player because Marko had more success at the SHL level at a younger age than him.

 

[hayen]

Oof. I was excited for Gostisbehere this year. Now I get why other people were less so

He's been producing they way expected.

 

[Shaman464]

I wonder what your opinion on Berggren is and if he could ever be a 50 point NHL player because Marko had more success at the SHL level at a younger age than him.

I think the chances of it happening are low and the chances of it being more than a one off are even lower. Berggren is also a different type of prospect than Kasper, so no sense in comparing them beyond the superficial one, them starting in Sweden.

 

[Gniwder]

Zadina was NA pick.

He was on loan from his Czech team, so technically he was an European pick which is why he was allowed to play in the AHL. He also only played one year in Halifax.

Ice size isn't why he busted, he's got zero hockey IQ. Pulky was small, slow, and his windup took too long.

 

[lilidk]

No , his problem is narcissistic personality and physically below NHL level. He brought too early and couldn't handle reality