I'd still take the first 5 of those (forgetting about their contracts) over Polak. I'm also not the kind of guy to judge a player for a good/bad camp, it's a tiny sample size.
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I'd still take the first 5 of those (forgetting about their contracts) over Polak. I'm also not the kind of guy to judge a player for a good/bad camp, it's a tiny sample size.
Pouliot is like Shultz in Edm. Give him offensive room and he'll look great. Make him play defense and he'll be in the AHL
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Perron was playing on the first PP unit too, until the Pens tried to get something going later in the game. So I wouldn't read too much into last nights game and where certain players were.
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You have to wonder what Buffalo and Vancouver will do with Lehner and Markstrom injured respectively. Markstrom may not be out very long, and Bachman will probably be able to handle spot duty even if he is, but Buffalo looks like they are going to lose their starter for a while now. Bylsma said it wasn't a short term issue, and Chad Johnson isn't exactly the goalie they should be running with long term.
They have a couple of options: Scrivens, Ward, Reimer and Hiller/Ortio/Ramo.
The top three options have to be Reimer, Hiller and Ward. Ramo and Scrivens don't compare with their skill sets to price tags and are probably the two worst goalies on the list. It all depends on what price in cap space they want to pay and whom they want to deal with; all three will probably cost the same in terms of assets.
If I were to try Reimer, it'd be him + contract for Johnson + prospect + conditional pick.
Chad Johnson
William Carrier (there are other options that may be worth less to them that are fine)
Conditional 4th round pick (depending on # of games + Buffalo's success)
James Reimer
Matt Frattin (or maybe Richard Panik)
We can be flexible in what we receive, but getting a one year backup that will let Bernier truly take the reins plus may be able to turn into more assets later, a B prospect + a 4th (or maybe more) for Reimer, that's an excellent deal for both teams. Thoughts?
They have a couple of options: Scrivens, Ward, Reimer and Hiller/Ortio/Ramo.
The top three options have to be Reimer, Hiller and Ward. Ramo and Scrivens don't compare with their skill sets to price tags and are probably the two worst goalies on the list. It all depends on what price in cap space they want to pay and whom they want to deal with; all three will probably cost the same in terms of assets.
If I were to try Reimer, it'd be him + contract for Johnson + prospect + conditional pick.
Chad Johnson
William Carrier (there are other options that may be worth less to them that are fine)
Conditional 4th round pick (depending on # of games + Buffalo's success)
James Reimer
Matt Frattin (or maybe Richard Panik)
We can be flexible in what we receive, but getting a one year backup that will let Bernier truly take the reins plus may be able to turn into more assets later, a B prospect + a 4th (or maybe more) for Reimer, that's an excellent deal for both teams. Thoughts?
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You have to wonder what Buffalo and Vancouver will do with Lehner and Markstrom injured respectively. Markstrom may not be out very long, and Bachman will probably be able to handle spot duty even if he is, but Buffalo looks like they are going to lose their starter for a while now. Bylsma said it wasn't a short term issue, and Chad Johnson isn't exactly the goalie they should be running with long term.
They have a couple of options: Scrivens, Ward, Reimer and Hiller/Ortio/Ramo.
The top three options have to be Reimer, Hiller and Ward. Ramo and Scrivens don't compare with their skill sets to price tags and are probably the two worst goalies on the list. It all depends on what price in cap space they want to pay and whom they want to deal with; all three will probably cost the same in terms of assets.
If I were to try Reimer, it'd be him + contract for Johnson + prospect + conditional pick.
Chad Johnson
William Carrier (there are other options that may be worth less to them that are fine)
Conditional 4th round pick (depending on # of games + Buffalo's success)
James Reimer
Matt Frattin (or maybe Richard Panik)
We can be flexible in what we receive, but getting a one year backup that will let Bernier truly take the reins plus may be able to turn into more assets later, a B prospect + a 4th (or maybe more) for Reimer, that's an excellent deal for both teams. Thoughts?
I'm not sure why they would trade Johnson essentially for Reimer. They would want Reimer to help Johnson out or vice versa.
Their depth right now in goal is incredibly bad for Buffalo. Lehner is apparently injured long-term. They have Makarov and Lieuwen as call ups.
So if Johnson and/or the younger options don't work out, perhaps Reimer could be an option for them. They could also turn to Calgary who have 3 goaltenders on their NHL roster (Ortio, Hiller and Ramo). Peter Budaj is also on waivers right now, so that's a free depth option for them, but it's pretty clear that Reimer and Hiller/Ortio are the better options.
With Buffalo really pushing to be competitive this season, I have no doubt they will look for help in net if Lehner is injured for a few months.
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You have to wonder what Buffalo and Vancouver will do with Lehner and Markstrom injured respectively. Markstrom may not be out very long, and Bachman will probably be able to handle spot duty even if he is, but Buffalo looks like they are going to lose their starter for a while now. Bylsma said it wasn't a short term issue, and Chad Johnson isn't exactly the goalie they should be running with long term.
They have a couple of options: Scrivens, Ward, Reimer and Hiller/Ortio/Ramo.
The top three options have to be Reimer, Hiller and Ward. Ramo and Scrivens don't compare with their skill sets to price tags and are probably the two worst goalies on the list. It all depends on what price in cap space they want to pay and whom they want to deal with; all three will probably cost the same in terms of assets.
If I were to try Reimer, it'd be him + contract for Johnson + prospect + conditional pick.
Chad Johnson
William Carrier (there are other options that may be worth less to them that are fine)
Conditional 4th round pick (depending on # of games + Buffalo's success)
James Reimer
Matt Frattin (or maybe Richard Panik)
We can be flexible in what we receive, but getting a one year backup that will let Bernier truly take the reins plus may be able to turn into more assets later, a B prospect + a 4th (or maybe more) for Reimer, that's an excellent deal for both teams. Thoughts?
They'll want to keep Johnson to form a tandem.
We can just simply grab some waiver type guy to play 20-25 games behind Bernier or sign someone. Buffalo can get more use out of Reimer than we can.
Reimer is gone after this year and we should get what we can for him.
Reto Berra went for a 2nd near the 2014 deadline (54th overall pick)
Talbot who is a bit more highly regarded went for a 57th, 79th and 184 picks (but it was an off-season deal).
I'd say if Buffalo traded us their 3rd + one of the San Jose or St. Louis 3rd round picks they own that'd be a fair trade.
Bernier's one soft goal per game....
Won't last long under this regime and Reimer could easily win his job back by returning to form. That would make Bernier the trade bait if Lou doesn't think he is "The one." If Bernier sucks our goaltending is as bad as anyone in the league. The truth is one of Reimer or Bernier is gone.I'm sorry but what exactly has Bernier proven? Not that he is worth over $4M per season.
Won't last long under this regime and Reimer could easily win his job back by returning to form. That would make Bernier the trade bait if Lou doesn't think he is "The one." If Bernier sucks our goaltending is as bad as anyone in the league. The truth is one of Reimer or Bernier is gone.I'm sorry but what exactly has Bernier proven? Not that he is worth over $4M per season.
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i think if we could get 2 x 3rd rounders for reimer it should be something to consider. we can pick up a vet goalie off waivers for peanuts. budaj? emery? etc, etc.
Bernier definitely hasn't proven he's a player to build around but he's going to be given every chance to be that guy. Notice how Babcock knew he was going to run with him to start the season. Management has their hesitations which is why he only got a 2 year deal. 4.15 million is also on the lower of end of the pay scale for starting goalies. Bernier offers consistency and upside that Reimer doesn't. The team also plays with a different level of confidence when he's in net.
Reimer on the other hand has been viewed as a backup since Bernier came along for good reasons. After 5 seasons with the Leafs (management including Lou + Babcock who's former teams were in the East) should have a very good idea of what he. My bet is they think he's too much of a wild card goalie who lacks fundamentals like rebound control, handling the puck, guessing at shots way to often and my god he sucks high glove side.
Reimer (who's a pending UFA) will be shown the door first but Bernier could also be gone in another season or two.
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Do soft goals suddenly count as more? Because Bernier lets in less of the other kind of goals than Reimer.
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I'm good with 2 3rds. I was just including Johnson because it makes salary more palatable and they don't need to waive him once Lehner comes back (and because he can be a backup for Bernier). Reimer can handle the full duties with someone like Lieuwyn as his backup until Lehner comes back.
Or we can trade Frattin and Panik for Scrivens and a pick so he can be our backup.
Depending on his play this year, I think we re-sign Reimer (at a considerably lower, backup appropriate AAV). As we're saying, we're not going to get much for him, and neither of the Marlies are ready to step up.
Personally I want Bibeau to get as many starts in the AHL as possible. I think he is our most promising goalie prospect at this time and need to give him every chance to grow.
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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...ion-Phaneufmore-Leafs-Sharks-and-more/1/71586
Obviously it's Eklund, but it's not the first time this has been said. L.A. will need some salary going the other way though.
Dan Cleary to Toronto was also a thing not too long ago. I'd assume the contract would be someone like Frattin. Cleary would probably not net us any picks at the TDL, but as a 13th/14th forward he wouldn't be that bad. Especially at the expense of an older Marlie that won't be able to net us anything in his own right. Interesting at least...
Of course, since it's Eklund, don't expect much. Especially since Lou doesn't give much away.
Obviously it's Eklund, but it's not the first time this has been said. L.A. will need some salary going the other way though.
Dan Cleary to Toronto was also a thing not too long ago. I'd assume the contract would be someone like Frattin. Cleary would probably not net us any picks at the TDL, but as a 13th/14th forward he wouldn't be that bad. Especially at the expense of an older Marlie that won't be able to net us anything in his own right. Interesting at least...
Of course, since it's Eklund, don't expect much. Especially since Lou doesn't give much away.
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Cleary is horrible. There are glaciers with more momentum that he has. Richards perhaps could be useful. At least he has contacts
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Babcock liked Cleary as a vet presence on the fourth line. That's enough to make some people talk, and that's enough to get Eklund to mention it.
Dion to LA sounds a lot more plausible though.
Dion to LA sounds a lot more plausible though.
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Well is he worth just bringing him in to be a depth player if he costs nothing? Kind of like what people wanted Robidas to be but a whole lot cheaper?
If LA takes Dion, they lose Kopitar to free agency next year.
Only way it works is if we take back Brown, which is a Clarkson bad contract.
Only way it works is if we take back Brown, which is a Clarkson bad contract.
Word is that Jimmy Vesey is going to be a FA in April .
Also heard that we hired his father as a scout.
During the game last it was mentioned that we have the inside tract to signing him.
Let's hope so.
He sounds like a good one.
Also heard that we hired his father as a scout.
During the game last it was mentioned that we have the inside tract to signing him.
Let's hope so.
He sounds like a good one.
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with the pre season and 2 regular season games under his belt, I'm sure Babcock now knows just how bad Dion is, and would relish the thought of freeing up all that money to improve the team going forward. I still have my doubts that that contract can be moved without retaining significant dollars.
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Actually that's not what he has been saying about Phanuef and if he really didn't have any confidence in him, he would have taken the "C" off his sweater.
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you may be right, but I doubt if the Leafs are looking at trading Phaneuf that publicly saying so and/or stripping him of the captaincy does anything other than hurt his trade value.
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We'll probably trade some prospects we don't want for him like we did with Hyman.
Cameranesi/Herzog+?
When Damien Cox said that last night I thought "that doesn't sound right". Isn't there a month long period following the NCAA season when the drafting team retains their exclusive rights?
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