Power play
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We don't know, and yet, there it is. Thanks for rubbing salt in the wound.
Brad Larsen, presumably, although the head coach has responsibility there, too.
We don't know. Not much longer, we hope.
Brad Larsen, presumably, although the head coach has responsibility there, too.
We don't know. Not much longer, we hope.
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Personally, I love it.
We were told last season when our PP was operating at about 30% that the team was a product of unsustainable numbers.
Now, when an average powerplay would have scored 10 more goals by now, we are told that there is no saving it, and a trade must be made. All the while we are sitting towards the very top of the league.
As frustrating as it is to watch, it surely will come around. I can only think of one game where the PP should have had goals that ultimately resulted in a loss.
It has been very, very bad. Everyone involved is to blame. The team has been winning while looking like it can't play worse.
We were told last season when our PP was operating at about 30% that the team was a product of unsustainable numbers.
Now, when an average powerplay would have scored 10 more goals by now, we are told that there is no saving it, and a trade must be made. All the while we are sitting towards the very top of the league.
As frustrating as it is to watch, it surely will come around. I can only think of one game where the PP should have had goals that ultimately resulted in a loss.
It has been very, very bad. Everyone involved is to blame. The team has been winning while looking like it can't play worse.
Crede777
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I think the Jackets PP is at the point where players are afraid to make a mistake and are gripping their sticks too tightly.
What they need to do is work on winning the face-off to start the PP, getting zone possession, having a 3 pass maximum once in the zone, and then letting it rip.
Also, I'm a proponent of advising players that if you can't shoot it past the PKers, try to shoot it through them. Maybe then it'll turn into an abbreviated 5 on 3.
What they need to do is work on winning the face-off to start the PP, getting zone possession, having a 3 pass maximum once in the zone, and then letting it rip.
Also, I'm a proponent of advising players that if you can't shoot it past the PKers, try to shoot it through them. Maybe then it'll turn into an abbreviated 5 on 3.
Nanabijou
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They seemed to kind of do this at the end of last game, but just roll out a regular forward line with 2 D and tell them to go play. This team is pretty good 5-on-5, so play it as such. Once they get the monkey off their back and get a couple more goals, they can start tinkering with it again.
Byrral
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The problem is making the right passes, you can make 3 passes and the person shooting could've been setup to take a shot right into someone's shin guards when one more pass could've been panarin back door all alone.
Idk what to change to make it work, but whatever they are doing isn't working.
Crede777
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The problem is that players are afraid to put one off a stick or the shin pads. I know that's a recipe for an odd man rush the other way, but I think the team needs to simplify and if an opponent is standing in the way of a shot, put it off him as hard as you can. Maybe aim higher than the shins. Eventually, they'll open up the lanes if you drop enough players.
SotasicA
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It must be a tactical issue. Because one thing's for sure the work rate is definitely there, and there kind of should be enough skill to put some pucks in the net. A lot of less talented teams score more often on the PP.
But if you draw it up wrong - what can you do as a player?
But if you draw it up wrong - what can you do as a player?
TaketheCannoli
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I think what the Jackets need to do is (a) waste 1/2 the power play tossing the puck aimlessly in a semicircle, then have someone finally either throw the puck at the goalie's chest from the blue line or miss the net altogether, (b) avoid movement, and (c) avoid cross-ice passes that create danger. That should fix it.
Hard to believe no one has gotten fired over this. We're coming up on an entire year of a horrible PP.
Hard to believe no one has gotten fired over this. We're coming up on an entire year of a horrible PP.
EspenK
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Pretty much this. They can't get into the zone, they can't get the pp set up, they pass aimlessly, they don't move, there doesn't always seem to be a guy in front of the goalie and we have too many offensively inept players out there.
Found this interesting tibit from a recent Portzline/The Athletic article... kinda hard to believe we haven't deviated from 1-3-1 with the setup listed below.
"At no point during this entire lull have the Blue Jackets switched to the type of power play that used to be standard across the NHL: two defensemen on the point, three forwards down low. Why not try Zach Werenski and Jones on the points, and Artemi Panarin, Wennberg and Atkinson down low? Or Werenski and Jones with the current top line, Panarin, Pierre-Luc Dubois and Josh Anderson?"
"At no point during this entire lull have the Blue Jackets switched to the type of power play that used to be standard across the NHL: two defensemen on the point, three forwards down low. Why not try Zach Werenski and Jones on the points, and Artemi Panarin, Wennberg and Atkinson down low? Or Werenski and Jones with the current top line, Panarin, Pierre-Luc Dubois and Josh Anderson?"
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General manager Jarmo Kekalainen, who is somewhere in Scandinavia on a scouting mission, is as frustrated as anybody. If he had hair, he’d pull it. He does not believe the problem can be fixed with a change in personnel or a system overhaul. His patience is being tried, but he will remain patient, for now.
"We added (Artemi) Panarin, we have the same coaches and the same systems — and we had the best power-play percentage in the league at this time last year," Kekalainen said during a telephone interview. "This has to be between the ears. Eventually, it’s going to cost us. Eventually, the coaches and players have to figure it out, and they will."
Lolz, We were so good at this time last year, dont bother to remember how bad we were after NYear.
"We added (Artemi) Panarin, we have the same coaches and the same systems — and we had the best power-play percentage in the league at this time last year," Kekalainen said during a telephone interview. "This has to be between the ears. Eventually, it’s going to cost us. Eventually, the coaches and players have to figure it out, and they will."
Lolz, We were so good at this time last year, dont bother to remember how bad we were after NYear.
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It doesn't seem to be an issue of zone entries at all. I would think that our powerplay is gaining the blue line at least at an average rate, if not above average.
It really does seem to be a lack of shooting, or a lack of faith by the puck carrier that something will be done with the rebound.
All of the passing around the top of the zone from Panarin to Werenski to Wennberg and back again is not leading to these slick back door passes, so really, just shoot it.
Really, for as little as he is creating at 5 on 5, Jenner seems to be the only person jamming the puck to the net and playing for rebounds on the powerplay. That needs to be the approach for everyone.
Until it all gets sorted out, I wouldn't be putting out pp units as much as going with our normal even strength lines and trying to establish chemistry and confidence in the offensive zone.
It really does seem to be a lack of shooting, or a lack of faith by the puck carrier that something will be done with the rebound.
All of the passing around the top of the zone from Panarin to Werenski to Wennberg and back again is not leading to these slick back door passes, so really, just shoot it.
Really, for as little as he is creating at 5 on 5, Jenner seems to be the only person jamming the puck to the net and playing for rebounds on the powerplay. That needs to be the approach for everyone.
Until it all gets sorted out, I wouldn't be putting out pp units as much as going with our normal even strength lines and trying to establish chemistry and confidence in the offensive zone.
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The powerplay drains energy. And I would be OK with having this powerplay if they were at least generating chances every once in a while or having some close calls, but they don't. Nothing is ever close, and if there's ever a chance its because the other team royally f***ed up or someone made a great play on our team (PLD vs Anaheim).
I'm also sick and tired of giving up a breakaway per game at minimum.
I'm also sick and tired of giving up a breakaway per game at minimum.
Crede777
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This is another good point, I think.
I think the CBJ lack net front presence on the PP this season. Foligno is trying, but honestly I think Hartnell was a master at creating problems for goalies and defensemen down low. Not saying that losing Hartnell is the problem as I think there's a number of players who should be able to play down low.
Why do we need a player down low? The screening and redirections are nice, but even more important is that it often ties up a defenseman who is trying to box the forward out. This leaves 3 PKers to try to intercept passes or get in shooting lanes. Right now, I see 4 PKers skating around trying to disrupt play and getting to rebounds.
TaketheCannoli
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I agree with you. They seem to have a design that has forwards flashing in front of the goalie and then moving on. Most of the time no one is in front of the goaltender. I think the idea is to suddenly "blind" the goalie as a shot is fired.
I've noticed that a number of successful power plays have two players next to and in front of the goal. Often times one of them is a defenseman.
On the other hand, Chicago's PP creates a lot of movement and oftentimes the puck ends up on the back door.
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It's power Play around here. Get over 5% in the last 50 or so attempts and I might think about allowing the use of a capital P.
You forgot the most important part.
He's there to cash in on the rebounds. They try to get too pretty and shoot for the corners when they need to be shooting low to create rebound opportunities. Also you don't see the guys using the boards like the should.
Seriously just f***ing throw the first line out there, let them cycle the puck down low, first chance one of them gets they drive to the net, dragging a Dman or two with him opening up someone else up, preferably Zach or Jonesy up high or panarin along the top of the circle somewhere.
