Potential World Cup Rosters
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My tentative prediction for Team Finland
1 S Koivu - Captain
2 T Selänne -Assistant
3 J Lehtinen
4 N Kapanen
5 A Miettinen
6 P Nurminen - G (probably #1)
7 J Hurme / J Markkanen? (one of the two, backup G)
8 O Väänänen
9 J Niinimaa
10 S Kapanen
11 J Pitkänen
12 T Numminen - Assistant
13 O Jokinen
14 T Ruutu
15 J Ruutu
16 N Hagman / V Nieminen / M Eloranta (one of..for 3rd/4th line role)
17 J Rita / R Hahl /other who performs well in 3rd/4th line capacity
18 K Timonen
fighting for spot:
S Salo
T Lydman
T Kallio
A Berg
T Santala
J Laukkanen
Note:
K Lehtonen (either going for experience(#3 goalie), or he's already proven himself and is #1 Goalie)
not ready yet:
Bergenheim
Pihlman
Toivonen
No hope:
Toskala
Kiprusoff
Lumme
Karalahti
Peltonen
1 S Koivu - Captain
2 T Selänne -Assistant
3 J Lehtinen
4 N Kapanen
5 A Miettinen
6 P Nurminen - G (probably #1)
7 J Hurme / J Markkanen? (one of the two, backup G)
8 O Väänänen
9 J Niinimaa
10 S Kapanen
11 J Pitkänen
12 T Numminen - Assistant
13 O Jokinen
14 T Ruutu
15 J Ruutu
16 N Hagman / V Nieminen / M Eloranta (one of..for 3rd/4th line role)
17 J Rita / R Hahl /other who performs well in 3rd/4th line capacity
18 K Timonen
fighting for spot:
S Salo
T Lydman
T Kallio
A Berg
T Santala
J Laukkanen
Note:
K Lehtonen (either going for experience(#3 goalie), or he's already proven himself and is #1 Goalie)
not ready yet:
Bergenheim
Pihlman
Toivonen
No hope:
Toskala
Kiprusoff
Lumme
Karalahti
Peltonen
Rob said:
I predict that these will be some of the players included on Canada's roster:
Forwards:
Bertuzzi, THornton, Heatley, Lecavalier, Kariya, Spezza, Sakic, Glen Murray, Ryan Smyth, Owen Nolan, Iginla, Jason Allison, Gagne, maybe Peca or Comrie.
Defence:
Redden, Brewer, Blake, Pronger (if healthy), Niedermayer, Jovanovski, Jackman, Bouwmeester
Obviously they won't all make it but that gives something of an idea. Your goaltending looks about right too, provided Giguere keeps it up this year. Otherwise maybe Lalime, Turco, or Theodore will make it.
Rob
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After much pondering here is my Team Canada roster:
C- Lemieux, Sakic, Thornton, Lecavalier, Lindros (5th center)
LW- Kariya, Smyth, Bertuzzi, Shanahan
RW- Iginla, Heatley, St.Louis, Carter
D- MacInnis, Blake, Morris, Jovanovski, Redden, Niedermayer, Pronger
G- Brodeur, Giguere, Luongo
First I just want to say that this is very tentative seeing as we have plenty of hockey to play. There are a few players on this list who are almosted guarenteed of making the team like Thornton, Kariya, Iginla, MacInnis, Niedermayer, Sakic and Lemieux (if he decides to play)
I think there are players like Carter, Jovanovski, St.Louis, and Lindros are going to be watched very closely.
Center: I know what you're thinking. Why Lindros and where is Yzerman? I actually surprised myself by including Lindros. I know his numbers were bad last year but I still feel he has an incredible amount of potential. I just feel that he fits in great as a 5th line center. He is a big forward who Team Canada can use in front of the net on power plays, and he can step in and play the wing if required. He also has quite a bit of experience playing international hockey, even though he did not live up to expectations. As for Yzerman, I'm just afraid that father time has caught up with him. With the exception of Lindros would you replace any of my other centers with Yzerman? Both Lindros and Yzerman are going to have to have good years to make the squad. There are also a few others good centers out there with a shot.
Left Wing: Pretty straight forward. I think Kariya, Bertuzzi and Smyth are a lock. If this was being played on the Olympic ice surface I would be a little more unsure of Shanahan but his physical presence will be needed on the NA ice surface. His inclusion might depend on the type of year he is having.
Right Wing: Picking the wingers was a little more difficult. Everyone agrees Iginla is a lock and probably Heatly as well. St.Louis impressed a lot of people last season. He is very very fast and an excellent playmaker. This makes up for his lack of size. However, it will all depend on how well he plays this season. To see whether or not he is for real. I went with Carter because I was really impressed by his performance at last years World Championships. Like St.Louis, much will depend on how well he plays. There are a number of good right wingers out there who can replace them.
Defence- I feel that Canada's defence could be the best in the tournament. I only have two players who I am concerned about. Morris has excellent potential but we will have to see how well he plays this season. With regards to Pronger, I am concerned about how he will come back from his injury. Canada does have more capable defencemen but Pronger is a very tough guy to replace.
Goalies- Canada has a great problem that many teams wish they could have. I really believe that if my three choices for goaltending (Brodeur, Luongo, and Giguere) all were injured that Canada's goaltending would still be strong. They could be replaced with Belfour, Theodore, and Turco for example. I feel strong about Brodeur being on the team just because of his experience and success. Luongo won a gold medal at the World Championships last year for Canada. I also think he is going to be the 'next big thing'. I picked Giguere based on his perfromance in the playoffs last year. It is hard to overlook playoff MVP honors. I do wonder if the change in the size of the goaltenders equipment will effect his play any. I also feel that Marty Turco would be more than capable of jumping in to replace any of these guys. An excellent case can be made for him to be on the team.
Unfortunately 18 players have to be named to the roster by March. My guess is that the respective countries will probably name 5 D-men, 11 forwards, and 2 goalies. Doesn't leave a lot of room to see who gets hot in the playoffs. There will be a lot of pressure on the GM's to make the right decisions.
C- Lemieux, Sakic, Thornton, Lecavalier, Lindros (5th center)
LW- Kariya, Smyth, Bertuzzi, Shanahan
RW- Iginla, Heatley, St.Louis, Carter
D- MacInnis, Blake, Morris, Jovanovski, Redden, Niedermayer, Pronger
G- Brodeur, Giguere, Luongo
First I just want to say that this is very tentative seeing as we have plenty of hockey to play. There are a few players on this list who are almosted guarenteed of making the team like Thornton, Kariya, Iginla, MacInnis, Niedermayer, Sakic and Lemieux (if he decides to play)
I think there are players like Carter, Jovanovski, St.Louis, and Lindros are going to be watched very closely.
Center: I know what you're thinking. Why Lindros and where is Yzerman? I actually surprised myself by including Lindros. I know his numbers were bad last year but I still feel he has an incredible amount of potential. I just feel that he fits in great as a 5th line center. He is a big forward who Team Canada can use in front of the net on power plays, and he can step in and play the wing if required. He also has quite a bit of experience playing international hockey, even though he did not live up to expectations. As for Yzerman, I'm just afraid that father time has caught up with him. With the exception of Lindros would you replace any of my other centers with Yzerman? Both Lindros and Yzerman are going to have to have good years to make the squad. There are also a few others good centers out there with a shot.
Left Wing: Pretty straight forward. I think Kariya, Bertuzzi and Smyth are a lock. If this was being played on the Olympic ice surface I would be a little more unsure of Shanahan but his physical presence will be needed on the NA ice surface. His inclusion might depend on the type of year he is having.
Right Wing: Picking the wingers was a little more difficult. Everyone agrees Iginla is a lock and probably Heatly as well. St.Louis impressed a lot of people last season. He is very very fast and an excellent playmaker. This makes up for his lack of size. However, it will all depend on how well he plays this season. To see whether or not he is for real. I went with Carter because I was really impressed by his performance at last years World Championships. Like St.Louis, much will depend on how well he plays. There are a number of good right wingers out there who can replace them.
Defence- I feel that Canada's defence could be the best in the tournament. I only have two players who I am concerned about. Morris has excellent potential but we will have to see how well he plays this season. With regards to Pronger, I am concerned about how he will come back from his injury. Canada does have more capable defencemen but Pronger is a very tough guy to replace.
Goalies- Canada has a great problem that many teams wish they could have. I really believe that if my three choices for goaltending (Brodeur, Luongo, and Giguere) all were injured that Canada's goaltending would still be strong. They could be replaced with Belfour, Theodore, and Turco for example. I feel strong about Brodeur being on the team just because of his experience and success. Luongo won a gold medal at the World Championships last year for Canada. I also think he is going to be the 'next big thing'. I picked Giguere based on his perfromance in the playoffs last year. It is hard to overlook playoff MVP honors. I do wonder if the change in the size of the goaltenders equipment will effect his play any. I also feel that Marty Turco would be more than capable of jumping in to replace any of these guys. An excellent case can be made for him to be on the team.
Unfortunately 18 players have to be named to the roster by March. My guess is that the respective countries will probably name 5 D-men, 11 forwards, and 2 goalies. Doesn't leave a lot of room to see who gets hot in the playoffs. There will be a lot of pressure on the GM's to make the right decisions.
Rob said:
That's not too bad a roster but I wanted to point out a few things. First off, who knows if Mario will be healthy come this time next year? He'll be 39 I believe and may retire after this season.
I don't know if Shanahan (getting old) and Carter will be included either. True Carter was our hero in the World championships, but during the NHL season he tends to be 'spotty,' that is go on a hot streak and then go ten or twelve games without a single point. Also this isn't too important but Bertuzzi usually plays right wing.
I also think that they might want to get some young guys more experience playing int'l and therefore have Gagne or Spezza (what i've seen of him has been good!) on the roster. I also feel a guy like John Madden, great defensively, and the underrated Glen Murray (who plays well with Thornton on the Bruins), and maybe even Mike Peca (if uninjured) could make it. And IMO if he isn't still out with those 'post concussion symptoms' I strongly think Jason Allison could make the team. I don't think Yzerman will be on this team. I love the guy but sorry to say this he's old and has a bad knee. If Lindros isn't having a bad season and doesn't get another concussion
he might make it, but honestly I think that there are enough good centres for Canada that he might find it hard to get named to the team. Al MacInnis isn't likely to be on D IMO as he is getting old and injury prone. IMO Brewer will almost definitely be on the team and either Jackman (Calder trophy for rookie of the year) or Bouwmeester (who was very impressive at worlds, winning the best defenceman award!) will be included for experience.
I seriously doubt that Belfour would be added to this roster. If Giguere isnt doing well in March (there is talk that he'll be this year's version of a post-Vezina and Hart Theodore) I hope to see Patrick Lalime (Ottawa) added to the roster as IMO he's a great goalie.
As you can see a lot depends on whether we can stay injury free, and what kind of seasons the players have. We'll just have to wait and see!
Rob
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I can't believe I forgot all about Jay Bouwmeester. Especially after his great perfomance at the worlds. Yeah, I'd replace Morris with Bouwmeester. I still think MacInnis will be on the team. He has more points than any other Canadian defenceman. As for Brewer, I know he is popular but I haven't been overly impressed with him.
Replace Morris with Bouwmeester??? Why would we do that? Yes he had a great WC, but ti is just the WC. He's not ready to be on team Canada yet. Redden will replace MacInnis, and it will be a toss up between Morris and Brewer for the 7th spot. Morris may have an edge as his game is better suited for the NHL ice.
Bouwmeester would have to have one hell of a year (like outscore both of them and improve his +/-), to be considered. We have no need to give 'experience' to ay of our defensemen. We have to send the BEST players, not players that deserve experience.
Bouwmeester would have to have one hell of a year (like outscore both of them and improve his +/-), to be considered. We have no need to give 'experience' to ay of our defensemen. We have to send the BEST players, not players that deserve experience.
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Where is the love for Adam Foote?
D: Pronger, Blake, Foote, MacInnis?, Jovanovski, Redden, Niedermayer
Possibles: Morris, Brewer, Bouwmeester, Jackman, Stevens, Regehr
F: Sakic, Kariya, Iginla, Thornton, Bertuzzi, Lecavalier, Smyth, Heatley, Peca, Allison, Murray, Gagne
Possibles: Lemieux?, Nolan, Shanahan, Yzerman?, Lindros, St. Louis, Carter, Madden, Morrison, Richards, Comrie
G: Brodeur, Turco, Giguere
D: Pronger, Blake, Foote, MacInnis?, Jovanovski, Redden, Niedermayer
Possibles: Morris, Brewer, Bouwmeester, Jackman, Stevens, Regehr
F: Sakic, Kariya, Iginla, Thornton, Bertuzzi, Lecavalier, Smyth, Heatley, Peca, Allison, Murray, Gagne
Possibles: Lemieux?, Nolan, Shanahan, Yzerman?, Lindros, St. Louis, Carter, Madden, Morrison, Richards, Comrie
G: Brodeur, Turco, Giguere
Rob
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Consider Heatley might be in prison during the World Cup, I think I will remove in from the list.
I doubt he'll be in prison a year from now. He makes a lot of money, can afford good lawyers, will probably have a whole lotta community service or something. If he would be removed from the list I would think it would be because of a medical issue, I would bet he's more hurt than a broken jaw. I hope he gets better, I like Dany.Rob said:
Youreallygotme
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since i always love to put things into lines, here goes my canadian team, with the tragic incident with heatley taken into consideration:
Bertuzzi-Thornton-Murray
Kariya-Sakic-Iginla
Gagne/smyth-Lecavalier/Allison-St. Louis/Nolan?
Shanahan-Peca-Madden
extra forward: lecavalier/Allison.
Peca makes it to be a defensive specialist, shutdown forward, and leader, ahead of more offensive players like comrie and richards. lecavalier and allison are both awesome play makers, so its a toss up. maybe nolan, it depends on how he and st. louis play next season. smyth is a fairly good bet to make it because of his heart, but gagne has the upper hand on skill. and madden mkes it because of his incredible ability to score more than the player he is EXTREMELY effectively shutting down(thornton, st. louis to name a couple) and how about that number 1 line for a power line?
Niedermayer-Pronger
Jovanovski-Foote
Redden-Blake
Morris
Redden and morris replace maccinnis and brewer from the olympic team, brewer just isnt good enough defensively, and Macinnis, well he will be exhausted from another season at age 40(?) i dont think he will take part. Looks like a pretty solid team boys!
Broduer starter, no need to explain why.
backup? WHO KNOWS theres at least 5 -7 possibilities. My front runner is turco, who is so good at playing the puck to his defensemen, and forwards too. not to mention he is a superb goalie. luongo, burke, lalime, theodore have all proven to be worthy, and of course giguere and belfour, this will be a tough one for them to choose. luckily it shouldnt matter that much. did i mention cujo?
Bertuzzi-Thornton-Murray
Kariya-Sakic-Iginla
Gagne/smyth-Lecavalier/Allison-St. Louis/Nolan?
Shanahan-Peca-Madden
extra forward: lecavalier/Allison.
Peca makes it to be a defensive specialist, shutdown forward, and leader, ahead of more offensive players like comrie and richards. lecavalier and allison are both awesome play makers, so its a toss up. maybe nolan, it depends on how he and st. louis play next season. smyth is a fairly good bet to make it because of his heart, but gagne has the upper hand on skill. and madden mkes it because of his incredible ability to score more than the player he is EXTREMELY effectively shutting down(thornton, st. louis to name a couple) and how about that number 1 line for a power line?
Niedermayer-Pronger
Jovanovski-Foote
Redden-Blake
Morris
Redden and morris replace maccinnis and brewer from the olympic team, brewer just isnt good enough defensively, and Macinnis, well he will be exhausted from another season at age 40(?) i dont think he will take part. Looks like a pretty solid team boys!
Broduer starter, no need to explain why.
backup? WHO KNOWS theres at least 5 -7 possibilities. My front runner is turco, who is so good at playing the puck to his defensemen, and forwards too. not to mention he is a superb goalie. luongo, burke, lalime, theodore have all proven to be worthy, and of course giguere and belfour, this will be a tough one for them to choose. luckily it shouldnt matter that much. did i mention cujo?
Rabid Ranger
2 is better than one
I'll take my crack at the U.S. roster:
Forwards:
Weight
Modano
Tkachuk
Roenick
Amonte
Deadmarsh *
Hull *
Drury
Rolston
Guerin
Leclair *
York
* These selections depend on age. health, and effectiveness. Possible, maybe even probable replacements include Legwand, Langenbrunner, Gomez, and Parrish.
Defensemen:
Leetch
Poti
Miller
Schneider
Rafalski
Carney
Hatcher
I think this group (barring inury) is pretty much set. An ideal mix for North American size ice.
Goaltenders:
Dunham
Dipietro
Esche
Boucher
Miller
Johnson
Suave
Grahame
This is the real "weak link" as far as the team in concerned. Dunham can be great. but he's not up to par when you consider what other countries can throw out there. The other guys are young and unproven. I hope Dunham has a great year this season and can build on that for the World Cup.
If the goaltending holds up the U.S. is a clear contender. An elite group of forwards still in their prime, and a mobile, physical defense should be enough to result in a medal. The chief competition IMO will come from Canada and Russia.
Forwards:
Weight
Modano
Tkachuk
Roenick
Amonte
Deadmarsh *
Hull *
Drury
Rolston
Guerin
Leclair *
York
* These selections depend on age. health, and effectiveness. Possible, maybe even probable replacements include Legwand, Langenbrunner, Gomez, and Parrish.
Defensemen:
Leetch
Poti
Miller
Schneider
Rafalski
Carney
Hatcher
I think this group (barring inury) is pretty much set. An ideal mix for North American size ice.
Goaltenders:
Dunham
Dipietro
Esche
Boucher
Miller
Johnson
Suave
Grahame
This is the real "weak link" as far as the team in concerned. Dunham can be great. but he's not up to par when you consider what other countries can throw out there. The other guys are young and unproven. I hope Dunham has a great year this season and can build on that for the World Cup.
If the goaltending holds up the U.S. is a clear contender. An elite group of forwards still in their prime, and a mobile, physical defense should be enough to result in a medal. The chief competition IMO will come from Canada and Russia.
Slay
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Samsonov - Fedorov - Ovechkin
Kovalchuk - Datsyuk - Kovalev
Polushin - Yashin - Frolov
Morozov - Victor Kozlov - Grigorenko
Zubov - Markov
Gonchar - Volchenkov
Kalinin - Karpovtsev/Babchuk
Khabibulin
Nabokov
Bryzgalov
Kovalchuk - Datsyuk - Kovalev
Polushin - Yashin - Frolov
Morozov - Victor Kozlov - Grigorenko
Zubov - Markov
Gonchar - Volchenkov
Kalinin - Karpovtsev/Babchuk
Khabibulin
Nabokov
Bryzgalov
JasonMacIsaac said:
Tuomo Ruutu is #4 at forward depth chart at best on that team. Selänne? Koivu?
This roster basically includes many of the same Canadian players who have already been listed, but just so you know I am pretty sure this is the roster they were talking about on TSN:
Forwards: Lemieux, Bertuzzi, Gagne, Iginla, Sakic, Friesen, Madden, O'Neil, Smyth, Nolan, Peca, Thornton, Kariya
Defensemen: Pronger, Blake, Foote, Jovanovski, Niedermayer, Redden, Brewer
Goaltenders: Brodeur, Turco, Theodore
I don't necessarily like all these choices, but whatever, just thought I'd pass this along.
Forwards: Lemieux, Bertuzzi, Gagne, Iginla, Sakic, Friesen, Madden, O'Neil, Smyth, Nolan, Peca, Thornton, Kariya
Defensemen: Pronger, Blake, Foote, Jovanovski, Niedermayer, Redden, Brewer
Goaltenders: Brodeur, Turco, Theodore
I don't necessarily like all these choices, but whatever, just thought I'd pass this along.
Rob
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Unless Owen Nolan has a great comeback year he will not be on the team. Jose Theodore has an outside chance but we will have to wait and see.
Rob
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Team Finland:
Lehtinen-Koivu-Selänne
Peltonen-Jokinen-S.Kapanen
Hagman-N.Kapanen-Miettinen
Nieminen-T.Ruutu-J.Ruutu
Eloranta
Niinimaa-Numminen
Timonen-Lydman
Väänänen-Salo
Pitkänen
Nurminen/Hurme
(Lehtonen)
I think Peltonen will be in team, because Summanen likes him a lot. That 4th line would be fun to watch.
Lehtinen-Koivu-Selänne
Peltonen-Jokinen-S.Kapanen
Hagman-N.Kapanen-Miettinen
Nieminen-T.Ruutu-J.Ruutu
Eloranta
Niinimaa-Numminen
Timonen-Lydman
Väänänen-Salo
Pitkänen
Nurminen/Hurme
(Lehtonen)
I think Peltonen will be in team, because Summanen likes him a lot. That 4th line would be fun to watch.
JasonMacIsaac said:
What do you mean in real stars? I don`t think Ruutu is star yet, but if you mean future stars i think that Finland has the best rookies of this season. Ruutu, Miettinen, Pitkänen, Lehtonen...But Finland doesn`t have real NHL stars, that`s for sure (well maybe Selänne, Koivu).
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Hey this seems like fun. I'll take a shot at a swedish team:
Arvedson Sundin Alfredsson
Renberg Forsberg Näslund
Huselius Zetterberg Modin
Axelsson Nylander Nilson
Lidström Norström
Öhlund Ragnarsson
Johnsson KennyJönsson
Salo
Hedberg
Tellqvist
Ok, so there's a few others that could be considered. Mats Lindgren makes a great defensive centre. The Sedins. Thomas Holmström, great to have in the PP. A few other D-men as well. Offensivly, it's decent. Pretty satisfied with the defense too.
Arvedson Sundin Alfredsson
Renberg Forsberg Näslund
Huselius Zetterberg Modin
Axelsson Nylander Nilson
Lidström Norström
Öhlund Ragnarsson
Johnsson KennyJönsson
Salo
Hedberg
Tellqvist
Ok, so there's a few others that could be considered. Mats Lindgren makes a great defensive centre. The Sedins. Thomas Holmström, great to have in the PP. A few other D-men as well. Offensivly, it's decent. Pretty satisfied with the defense too.
Rob
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I think that Sweden will have the stronges European team in the tournament. It is about time that Sweden does something. The last two Olympics have been a disaster.
ridderwall said:
I have a feeling that the sedins will make the team. They've looked very good thus far this (pre)season. Lindgren, on the other hand, will probably be prevented from playing due to injuries. The way his back keeps acting up, I don't know if he's ever going to play again.
Slay
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forbesy said:
I am a bit mixed up with positions of the players in 3rd Line in my previous post. It should be like this:
Frolov - Yashin - Polushin
Not sure whom Chistov can replace, maybe Polushin but they are playing on different positions (Chistov - LW and Polushin - RW)
I don't think he can replace Frolov. Putting Chistov to the 4th line? not quite sure (I wouldn't put him to the top 2 lines though I find him and Samsonov pretty similar players)
I don't know how effective Chistov can be on the RW, i.e. Frolov - Yashin - Chistov, and Polushin to the 4th line replacing Grigorenko if he won't recover till World Cup.
But I hope Grigorenko recovers well. Okay here my final lines, I like it better than previous ones:
1st - Samsonov - Fedorov - Ovechkin
2nd - Kovalchuk - Datsyuk - Kovalev
3rd - Frolov - Yashin - Grigorenko
4th - Chistov - Kozlov - Polushin
I think Chistov will be okay at the 4th line alongside with big guys like Kozlov (6'5) and universal Polushin (6'3). Though I think 4th line in the Russian team is not obligatory checking line.
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