Potential World Cup Rosters

[The Mighty Duck Man]

I guess I'll throw my hat into the Team Canada speculation...

Kariya-Sakic-Bertuzzi
Smyth-Lemieux-Thornton
Richards-Lecavalier-Iginla
Madden-Peca-Lindros

Ex: Simon Gagne, Steve Rucchin

Lindros, Thornton and Richards are out of position...I don't know if Thornton can play RW, but I know Richards and Lindros have played on the wings.

Foote-Jovanovski
Pronger-Niedermayer
Redden-Morris

Ex: Jay Bouwmeester

Martin Brodeur
Marty Turco

Ex: Roberto Luongo

That was fun.

I was a bit shocked at first with your pick as Rooch as an extra, but iot makes alot of sense. He's a great two-way guy who could complete a major two-way line of him, Peca, and Madden. Any one could center it. That line could probably shut down alot of teams.

 

[Rob]

One mistake Canada learned from the Nagano Olympics is not to have too many centres playing on the wing. Canada had something like 9 centres in Nagano. Their offence suffered as a result. I believe almost every player played their normal position in Salt Lake City.

I think we should do the same thing for the World Cup. Have everyone play their natural position. This may mean that some good players are left out but I think it is the right course of action. The only exception may be Lemieux. If he wants to play on the wing then let him.

My goaltenders would be:

Brodeur
Luongo
Theodore

I can't believe the people who are picking Belfour.

 

[Epsilon]

I think Rick Nash will be one of the Canadian forwards by the end of this season.

 

[L3DZ3P]

What about Tanguay he deserve an invitation.

 

[Vincent Vega]

I decided to change my USA roster up a bit. I read a smart post over at the New Jersey board saying the US didnt have a checking line at the 02 Olympics and they should have. I agree completely.

Old Team USA:

John LeClair - Jeremy Roenick - Tony Amonte
Keith Tkachuk - Mike Modano - Bill Guerin
Mike York - Doug Weight - Brett Hull
Brian Rolston - Chris Drury - David Legwand

Brian Leetch - Derian Hatcher
Tom Poti - Aaron Miller
Keith Carney - Brian Rafalski

Mike Dunham
Rick DiPietro
Robert Esche

New Team USA:

John LeClair/Keith Tkachuk - Jeremy Roenick - Tony Amonte
Mike Modano - Doug Weight - Bill Guerin
Brian Rolston - Chris Drury - Jamie Lagenbrunner
Keith Tkachuk/John LeClair - Mike York - Brett Hull
EX: Todd Marchant

Brian Leetch - Derian Hatcher
Tom Poti - Ken Klee
Keith Carney - Brian Rafalski
EX: Chris Chelios

Mike Dunham
Rick DiPietro
Robert Esche

 

[IceMelter]

My Team Canada.

Forwards

Paul Kariya-Joe Thornton-Glen Murray
Alex Tanguay-Joe Sakic- Jarome Iginla
Todd Bertuzzi-Mario Lemieux- Dany Heatley
Brendan Shanahan-Vincent Lecavlier-Martin St.Louis

Extras: Ryan Smyth, Rick Nash

Defense:

Rob Blake - Adam Foote
Chris Pronger - Ed Jovanovski
Scott Niedermayer- Wade Redden

Extras: Derek Morris

Goalies:
Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo

Extra: J.S. Gigeure (depending on stats at end of season) or M.A Fleury- just to see up and close what its like to play in a big time tournament.

 

[Vincent Vega]

My Team Canada.

Forwards

Paul Kariya-Joe Thornton-Glen Murray
Alex Tanguay-Joe Sakic- Jarome Iginla
Todd Bertuzzi-Mario Lemieux- Dany Heatley
Brendan Shanahan-Vincent Lecavlier-Martin St.Louis

Extras: Ryan Smyth, Rick Nash

Dont expect Canada to take the 2002 Team USA approach.

 

[Dr_Chimera*]

Russia - my try at it

Samsonov/Fedorov/Kovalev
Kovalchuk/Datsyuk/Morozov
Yashin/Zhamnov/Chistov
Frolov/Kozlov/Ovechkin
Semin/Chubarov
if healthy: Grigorenko on the 3rd line RW spot

Markov/Volchenkov/
Gonchar/Kasparaitis
Tverdovsky/Kalinin
DMarkov

Khabibulin/Nabokov

I don't think Zubov would accept an invite, but it'd be nice if he did...

- I like Chubarov here. A hard-working guy like him would fit in well.

All in all, a good young group - a nice mix of veterans and up-and-comers.

Bykov will probably be on the team. He's well-liked.

 

[IceMelter]

Ugly team, you have no checking players, Shanny will not make it, Heatley won't be picked.

True, however in the past when Team Canada has decided to pick in favor of just a certain attribute like Speed, or for another year be a physical team, they haven't done so well.

So why not go for a mix of offense? Sweden used the torpedo system which is primarily offensive and was kicking everyones ass until a very unexpected loss to Belarus.

Last year when we won gold we didn't really have a shutdown line, Peca and Nieuwendyk were the only ones you could really say that were in the defensive mold.

Heatley was an outside pick, it's a gamble that would have to be looked at.

Why not Shanahan though, he is 34 and is kind of getting up in age however that hasn't affected his production too much, he's not the Shanahan that put up 102 points, however he is a reliable 70 point guy.

 

[Kugel]

since i always love to put things into lines, here goes my canadian team, with the tragic incident with heatley taken into consideration:

Bertuzzi-Thornton-Murray
Kariya-Sakic-Iginla
Gagne/smyth-Lecavalier/Allison-St. Louis/Nolan?
Shanahan-Peca-Madden
extra forward: lecavalier/Allison.

Peca makes it to be a defensive specialist, shutdown forward, and leader, ahead of more offensive players like comrie and richards. lecavalier and allison are both awesome play makers, so its a toss up. maybe nolan, it depends on how he and st. louis play next season. smyth is a fairly good bet to make it because of his heart, but gagne has the upper hand on skill. and madden mkes it because of his incredible ability to score more than the player he is EXTREMELY effectively shutting down(thornton, st. louis to name a couple) and how about that number 1 line for a power line?

Niedermayer-Pronger
Jovanovski-Foote
Redden-Blake
Morris

Redden and morris replace maccinnis and brewer from the olympic team, brewer just isnt good enough defensively, and Macinnis, well he will be exhausted from another season at age 40(?) i dont think he will take part. Looks like a pretty solid team boys!

Broduer starter, no need to explain why.
backup? WHO KNOWS theres at least 5 -7 possibilities. My front runner is turco, who is so good at playing the puck to his defensemen, and forwards too. not to mention he is a superb goalie. luongo, burke, lalime, theodore have all proven to be worthy, and of course giguere and belfour, this will be a tough one for them to choose. luckily it shouldnt matter that much. did i mention cujo?

i think murrary is american

 

[GermanDevil]

Here is the german team (my opinion):

Goaltenders:
- Olaf Kolzig (Washington Capitals)
- Robert Müller (Krefeld Penguins / drafted by WSH on #275 in 2001)
- Marc Seliger (Mannheim Eagles / drafted by WSH on #251 in 1993)
(Kolzig is always a big question-mark. In the last years he always called of with threadbares reasons! When Kolzig don´t play, Oliver Jonas from the Polar Bears Berlin is our 3rd goalie).

Defenders:
- Dennis Seidenberg (Philadelphia Phantoms)
- Christian Ehrhoff (San Jose Sharks)
- Christoph Schubert (Binghampton Senators)
- Mirco Lüdemann (Cologne Sharks)
- Sascha Goc (Mannheim Eagles / a former Devil, drafted by the Devils on #159 in 1997)
- Jan Benda (AK Bars Kazan, Russia / played some years ago at Washington)
- Daniel Kunce (Krefeld Penguins)
(Coach Hans Zach don´t like the playing style of Sven Butenschon)

Forwards:
- Marco Sturm (San Jose Sharks)
- Jochen Hecht (Buffalo Sabres)
- Marcel Goc (Cleveland Barons)
- Stefan Ustorf (Krefeld Penguins / drafted by WSH on #53 in 1992 / He played some years ago at Washington)
- Daniel Kreutzer (Düsseldorf Metro Stars)
- Wayne Hynes (Hamburg Freezers)
- Tobias Abstreiter (Kassel Huskies)
- Andreas Morczinietz (Cologne Sharks)
- Leonard Soccio (Hannover Scorpions)
- Tomas Martinec (Mannheim Eagles)
- Eduard Lewandowski (Cologne Sharks / drafted by PHO on #242 in 2003)
- Martin Reichel (Frankfurt Lions / Brother of Robert Reichel)

 

[Tronador]

Here is the german team (my opinion):

Goaltenders:
- Olaf Kolzig (Washington Capitals)
- Robert Müller (Krefeld Penguins / drafted by WSH on #275 in 2001)
- Marc Seliger (Mannheim Eagles / drafted by WSH on #251 in 1993)
(Kolzig is always a big question-mark. In the last years he always called of with threadbares reasons! When Kolzig don´t play, Oliver Jonas from the Polar Bears Berlin is our 3rd goalie).

Defenders:
- Dennis Seidenberg (Philadelphia Phantoms)
- Christian Ehrhoff (San Jose Sharks)
- Christoph Schubert (Binghampton Senators)
- Mirco Lüdemann (Cologne Sharks)
- Sascha Goc (Mannheim Eagles / a former Devil, drafted by the Devils on #159 in 1997)
- Jan Benda (AK Bars Kazan, Russia / played some years ago at Washington)
- Daniel Kunce (Krefeld Penguins)
(Coach Hans Zach don´t like the playing style of Sven Butenschon)

Forwards:
- Marco Sturm (San Jose Sharks)
- Jochen Hecht (Buffalo Sabres)
- Marcel Goc (Cleveland Barons)
- Stefan Ustorf (Krefeld Penguins / drafted by WSH on #53 in 1992 / He played some years ago at Washington)
- Daniel Kreutzer (Düsseldorf Metro Stars)
- Wayne Hynes (Hamburg Freezers)
- Tobias Abstreiter (Kassel Huskies)
- Andreas Morczinietz (Cologne Sharks)
- Leonard Soccio (Hannover Scorpions)
- Tomas Martinec (Mannheim Eagles)
- Eduard Lewandowski (Cologne Sharks / drafted by PHO on #242 in 2003)
- Martin Reichel (Frankfurt Lions / Brother of Robert Reichel)

For Wayne Hynes Zach should nominate Sebastian Furcher(Cologne Sharks), who played very offensive at the "Deutschland-Cup" or Alexander Serikow(Kassel Huskies)!!And what about Dimitri Pätzold(Cleveland AHL), drafted by the San José Sharks???

Greetings from Berlin,Germany!!!!!

 

[GermanDevil]

For Wayne Hynes Zach should nominate Sebastian Furcher(Cologne Sharks), who played very offensive at the "Deutschland-Cup" or Alexander Serikow(Kassel Huskies)!!And what about Dimitri Pätzold(Cleveland AHL), drafted by the San José Sharks???

Greetings from Berlin,Germany!!!!!

Wayne Hynes is with Tobias Abstreiter our best Bully-player and with his experience he woulb be a very important player for us! Furchner plays now his second season in the DEL. I think Hynes would help us more...

Patzold is a good goalie, no question! But which of the other 3 goalies should be stay at home? Kolzig no, Seliger played very very good olympic games and Muller is at Krefeld one of the few players with normal form! Patzold is 20 years old, his time will be coming in the next years. But for the World Cup 2004 I wouldn´t nominate him!

Just my two cents...

 

[Dr_Chimera*]

I don't think Russia will fair too well, too young and horrible defense. Khabi will have to stand on his head. Also is it possible to make a checking line with Russian Forwards, may be a usefull idea.

Defense looks good to me. If the forwards are motivated, they can win the gold - but at least a medal.

 

[nordique]

Defense looks good to me. If the forwards are motivated, they can win the gold - but at least a medal.

Doesn't Nabokov have to play for Kazakhstan in international play?

 

[SwisshockeyAcademy]

Here is the german team (my opinion):

Goaltenders:
- Olaf Kolzig (Washington Capitals)
- Robert Müller (Krefeld Penguins / drafted by WSH on #275 in 2001)
- Marc Seliger (Mannheim Eagles / drafted by WSH on #251 in 1993)
(Kolzig is always a big question-mark. In the last years he always called of with threadbares reasons! When Kolzig don´t play, Oliver Jonas from the Polar Bears Berlin is our 3rd goalie).

Defenders:
- Dennis Seidenberg (Philadelphia Phantoms)
- Christian Ehrhoff (San Jose Sharks)
- Christoph Schubert (Binghampton Senators)
- Mirco Lüdemann (Cologne Sharks)
- Sascha Goc (Mannheim Eagles / a former Devil, drafted by the Devils on #159 in 1997)
- Jan Benda (AK Bars Kazan, Russia / played some years ago at Washington)
- Daniel Kunce (Krefeld Penguins)
(Coach Hans Zach don´t like the playing style of Sven Butenschon)

Forwards:
- Marco Sturm (San Jose Sharks)
- Jochen Hecht (Buffalo Sabres)
- Marcel Goc (Cleveland Barons)
- Stefan Ustorf (Krefeld Penguins / drafted by WSH on #53 in 1992 / He played some years ago at Washington)
- Daniel Kreutzer (Düsseldorf Metro Stars)
- Wayne Hynes (Hamburg Freezers)
- Tobias Abstreiter (Kassel Huskies)
- Andreas Morczinietz (Cologne Sharks)
- Leonard Soccio (Hannover Scorpions)
- Tomas Martinec (Mannheim Eagles)
- Eduard Lewandowski (Cologne Sharks / drafted by PHO on #242 in 2003)
- Martin Reichel (Frankfurt Lions / Brother of Robert Reichel)

This is pretty much what i thought it would be but if Kolzig says no it would be hard to blame him. He was inserted into game 1 by George Kingston against Sweden, IN Sweden. It was a 6-1 loss but he kept them in the game, Kingston would go on to rotate the other two goalies he had and would pass the quartefinal start on to the winner of the game V the Czechs. I cannot recall his name. Klauss perhaps??? It was a nonsensical move to leave out a goalie who was much better than the other two although the other two played decent. If he opts out Seliger , Muller and Patzold are good goaltenders as well and if one gets hot they will be fine. My point is if they are asking Kolzig they may as well play him unless he's playing poorly.
I like the German defense but i cannot stand Kunce. For god sakes they must leave that penalty machine home. They would probably defeated canada in the World's QF's if not for Dunce's penalties. I like his ruggedness like most as well but he tips the scales too far towards stupidity. This German team should be better than the team of 96 and i hope they put on a good show. i am also a big fan of Ullman, he showed alot of moxie around the net i wonder if he is too young to get a look?. kreutzer is an absolute bull and could succeed in the NHL if his skating is up to par. Lewandowski is of a high skill level too and could surprise.

 

[Eisbaerenfan]

Team Germany

Team Germany

Offence:

Benda (AK Bars Kazan) - Ustorf (Krefeld) - T.Martinec (Mannheim)
Sturm (San Jose) - T.Abstreiter (Kassel) - Kreutzer (Düsseldorf)
Hecht (Buffalo) - M.Goc (Cleveland) - Serikow (Kassel)
Lewandowski (Köln) - Boos (Köln) - Furchner (Köln)
Maybe Greilinger (Nürnberg) and M.Reichel (Frankfurt) instead of Alexander Serikow and Marcel Goc

Defense:

Lüdemann (Köln) - S.Goc (Mannheim)
S. Retzer (Kassel) - Ehrhoff (San Jose)
D. Seidenberg (Phantoms) - Leask (Eisbären Berlin)
Kopitz (Nürnberg)

Goalies:

Kölzig (Washington)
Müller (Krefeld)
Jonas (Eisbären Berlin)

There are some more options in Defense with Schubert (Binghamton), Stöpfgeshoff (Frankfurt) and Goldmann (Iserlohn). I don't think Felix Petermann (Nürnberg) is ready to play against NHLers yet. Of all defenders in Germany Kopitz and Stöpfgeshoff have the most potential (forget Sulzer). Maybe Soccio (Hannover) or Hynes (Hamburg) might play on the center position for Marcel Goc. Highly overrated players that have been playing for the national Team are Kathan (Mannheim) Morczinietz (Köln) and Blank (Köln). I think wingers like Aab (Nürnberg), Mares (Freiburg), Appel (Krefeld), Arendt (Augsburg) or Florian Keller (Berlin) are much better.

 

[syc]

Doesn't Nabokov have to play for Kazakhstan in international play?

Yes I think your right.

 

[Slay]

Yes I think your right.

By new rules he can play for Russia. He played in Russia 5 or more years (just not sure exactly) thus he can play for Russia, and after all he is Russian.

 

[Rob]

International rules do not apply to the World Cup. Thus, he is able to play for Russia.

 

[Kronblom]

Team Germany

There are some more options in Defense with Schubert (Binghamton), Stöpfgeshoff (Frankfurt) and Goldmann (Iserlohn). I don't think Felix Petermann (Nürnberg) is ready to play against NHLers yet. Of all defenders in Germany Kopitz and Stöpfgeshoff have the most potential (forget Sulzer).

Interesting to see that this halfswede/halfgerman Jonas Stöpfgeshoff is doing so well in the DEL, but seeing him as a pontential player for the World Cup wouldn´t that be asking for too much?

Jonas Stöpfgeshoff has played 9 games for the swedish junior national team, I don´t know how that will affect his chances with Team Germany in the future though.

 

[Badger Bob]

Team USA:

John LeClair - Jeremy Roenick - TonyAmonte
Keith Tkachuk - Mike Modano - BillGuerin
Mike York - Doug Weight - Brett Hull
Brian Rolston - Chris Drury - David Legwand

Brian Leetch - Derian Hatcher
Tom Poti - Aaron Miller
Keith Carney - Brian Rafalski

Mike Dunham
Rick DiPietro

Delete Mike York & Brian Rolston, and replace with Erik Cole & Adam Deadmarsh. Scratch David Legwand and slot Todd Marchant in the checking role. Jordan Leopold has played in the last two World Championships, which hasn't gone unnoticed at USA Hockey. No reason to retire Chris Chelios just yet.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Delete Mike York & Brian Rolston, and replace with Erik Cole & Adam Deadmarsh. Scratch David Legwand and slot Todd Marchant in the checking role. Jordan Leopold has played in the last two World Championships, which hasn't gone unnoticed at USA Hockey. No reason to retire Chris Chelios just yet.

Deadmarsh would be a given, IF he is healthy. It's up in the air whether he'll even play again. There's no way Rolston is left off the team. He brings too much to the table, and is an accomplished two-way player with tremendous speed and a cannon for a shot. I guess York and Cole are a toss up, although personally, I'd rather have York's more accomplished offensive game as opposed to Cole's physicality. Shoot, there might be room for both!

 

[Badger Bob]

I guess York and Cole are a toss up, although personally, I'd rather have York's more accomplished offensive game as opposed to Cole's physicality. Shoot, there might be room for both!

If they were playing on international ice surfaces, York & Cole might be a toss up. Since it's the North American game, Cole should get the nod IMHO. (Recall his playoff performance two seasons ago.) This would line up power forwards across the left side: LeClair, Tkachuk, Cole & Deadmarsh (like you say, if he's healthy).

Come to think of it, Jamie Lannenbrunner should receive serious consideration.

 

[Badger Bob]

Expect Langenbrunner to get a more defensive role, matter whether he's hot or not in the scoring department. He's not going to pass Guerin, Hull & Amonte on any of the scoring lines. A checking line of Deadmarsh-Marchant-Langenbrunner could be extremely effective.