Injury Report: Playoffs 2014

[Bizz]

I would say the common denominator in the Sharks' losses have come down to having an inferior defensive corps.

NO IT'S ALL THORNTON'S FAULT, TRADE HIM, BLOW THE TEAM UP!

 

[OrrNumber4]

I would say the common denominator in the Sharks' losses have come down to having an inferior defensive corps.

In 2007:
Rivet-Mclaren
Vlasic-Hannan
Carle-Ehrhoff
Murray

In 2008:
Vlasic-Campbell
Rivet-Ehrhoff
Murray-Carle
Semenov
Mclaren

In 2009:
Lukowich-Boyle
Vlasic-Blake
Murray-Ehrhoff
Semenov

In 2010:
Murray-Boyle
Vlasic-Blake
Huskins-Demers
Wallin

In 2011:
Murray-Boyle
Vlasic-Ian White
Wallin-Demers
Huskins

In 2012:
Murray-Boyle
Vlasic-Demers
Colin White-Braun

In 2013:
Vlasic-Braun
Irwin-Boyle
Hannan-Stuart
Demers

2007 and 2008 was just a lot of inexperience (not to take away from how Ehrhoff or Vlasic played), but 2009-2011 looked very strong. In 2012, with Murray and Boyle both starting the decline, and yes, the defense was poor. That carried over to 2013, though Hannan-Stuart were great in the playoffs whilst Braun made a transformation that year itself.

The most glaring holes come from the third pairing. That's like complaining about about the third and fourth lines. It might help you come out on top in a 7-game-series, but it isn't going to reverse a sweep or change the outcome of a six-game series.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

2010 was a strong D-Core? What about 2011?

In 2009, that D-Core was good. Only year you can really say that. They were just really inexperienced and ran into a great team. We also had no scoring depth. The Ducks also had Pronger and Niedermayer...can't remember the rest of their defense either.

In 2010, Murray was awful against the Hawks, as was Blake. Both of those guys had pretty much proven that they were too slow to play top-4 in the new NHL, especially against this ridiculously fast Hawks club. Demers was a rookie who was prone to even more mistakes than he is now, and also wasn't the offensive threat he is now. Wallin and Huskins didn't belong in the NHL.

In 2011, Ian white was a marginal top-4 defenseman and Murray and Wallin didn't belong in the NHL while Demers was playing inconsistent as ever...Nucks had Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Edler, Mitchell can't remember the rest but they were better than our guys.

So, yeah. We has average to below average defenses and lost twice in the WCF to teams who had better defenses. Sounds like it's been a common factor to me, I don't know what to tell you. I really feel like you just have a biased point of view on things

Oh, and your view on the third pairing is absolutely laughable. Your bias is incredibly apparent at this point. You don't think that having Leddy and Oduya on the bottom pairing is going to make a difference compared to having Wallin and Huskins? Games are each played 1 by 1, and having two mobile 2nd pairing guys on the 3rd pairing as opposed to 2 pylons on the 3rd pairing could legitimately be the difference between winning in a sweep and losing in a sweep. To suggest that the bottom pairing doesn't matter is just moving the goal posts at this point.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The only year that the D core was strong was 2009 and the team was far too injured going into that playoff year and went against a bad matchup. Every year after and before, the D core has not been anywhere near good enough. Murray was never a quality top four d-man let alone on a Cup contending team and the defense of his pairing with Boyle was always poor for the competition faced.

 

[Levie]

People underrating how good Wallin was for us during those runs. And Demers wasn't inconsistent. He was injured in half the WCSF and all of the WCF.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

People underrating how good Wallin was for us during those runs. And Demers wasn't inconsistent. He was injured in half the WCSF and all of the WCF.

He would be underrated if it was said that he was a poor man's Alexei Semenov. However, he was not good in teal...at all.

 

[DystopianTierney]

Rivet was a beast in teal. Gave us some of the best hockey of his career, but damn did he die with the Buffalo.

 

[hockeyball]

Rivet was a beast in teal. Gave us some of the best hockey of his career, but damn did he die with the Buffalo.

My best memory of Rivet was him skating off the ice after a loss past Cheechoo and yelling (loud enough to hear it on the mic's) "Is that it? Are you ****ing done??"

Cheechoo just lowered his head in shame.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Craig Rivet was awesome.

 

[DystopianTierney]

My best memory of Rivet was him skating off the ice after a loss past Cheechoo and yelling (loud enough to hear it on the mic's) "Is that it? Are you ****ing done??"

Cheechoo just lowered his head in shame.

Craig Rivet was awesome.

He was king of the ring for us as well that year. I've never seen so many clear cut KO's. Yeah, i like fighting in hockey (when it's legitimately in the heat of the moment.)

 

[Gene Parmesan]

I remember him beating the brakes off Steve Ott and Alex Burrows. He also had a great year.

5 goals, 30 assists and 104 pims.

 

[Led Zappa]

Apparently Couture had successful hand surgery and will be ready by training camp.

http://sharks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=722290&navid=DL|SJS|home

 

[DystopianTierney]

Apparently Couture had successful hand surgery and will be ready by training camp.

http://sharks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=722290&navid=DL|SJS|home

At least he broke it over a Kings face. Hope it was the hand that had prior surgery..... Clowe would be ashamed if it wasn't.

 

[Juxtaposer]

****ing piece of **** went and broke his hand fighting a scrub when we had another game to play.

 

[The Ice Hockey Dude]

rangers are done, i would have thought they would have won game 3 as i picked the kings in 5 or 6. Looks like a sweep!

Then NO MORE NHL HOCKEY TILL TRAINING CAMP.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

At least he broke it over a Kings face. Hope it was the hand that had prior surgery..... Clowe would be ashamed if it wasn't.

Glad that Couture showed some fight but it was selfish and he paid the price as did the team. I hope he learns from it.

 

[DG93]

****ing piece of **** went and broke his hand fighting a scrub when we had another game to play.

Yeah wow...wtf...

 

[hockeyball]

rangers are done, i would have thought they would have won game 3 as i picked the kings in 5 or 6. Looks like a sweep!

Then NO MORE NHL HOCKEY TILL TRAINING CAMP.

Yah, I don't get how anyone in their right mind thought the Rangers had a chance. They had no chance, none, the Kings won the cup as soon as they beat Chicago.

 

[Mafoofoo]

****ing piece of **** went and broke his hand fighting a scrub when we had another game to play.

Gutz and leadership intangibles all up in this right now.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

****ing piece of **** went and broke his hand fighting a scrub when we had another game to play.

Almost like hockey players are competitive or something.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Almost like hockey players are competitive or something.

But that game was over. There was nothing to be gained from that fight.

 

[Kitten Mittons]

Eh if we won the next game, people would be taking about Couture's leadership.

It's just a fight, get over it. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

But that game was over. There was nothing to be gained from that fight.

It was over for fans but after Richards trying to spear Couture earlier in the series, I didn't mind it. Sucks he hurt his hand but inherent risks of fighting.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

It was over for fans but after Richards trying to spear Couture earlier in the series, I didn't mind it. Sucks he hurt his hand but inherent risks of fighting.

And with a game seven certain, that was a risk he shouldn't have taken. That's a selfish reason to fight someone.

 

[LadyStanley]

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks...s-vlasic-injury-update-and-thoughts-on-kings/

Update on Vlasic.

Head is clear and knee needs a little more rest. He'll be good to go at camp.