Player Discussion: Prospects Off Season ... including Gauthier
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This... and chances are, they won't.
The amount of prospects who live up to their theoretical "cieling" when being drafted is an incredibly low number.
That being said, the concern for me is, even if these guys reach 90% of their cieling and both end up centres... I personally don't like what we have in the middle. The game is getting bigger, I think you can suceed with an undersized top 6 centre, I don't believe you can succeed with 2. Having size in the middle puts you in a substantially better position to drive posession, and be able to win a low scoring game / goalie duel.
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If you think in terms of age/ELC/development, there's a very good chance that Nylander's ahead of Marner and could see full-time with the Leafs in 2016, whereas Marner may just be playing his first AHL season at that time, and we're either locking up Kadri or signing him to another short-term deal to take him into FA.
Fast forward to 2017 and now Kadri is either gone or locked up long-term, and Marner is ready to make the jump (if at all; you never know, same goes with Nylander: maybe he flops out as a center and moves to the wing).
Really what I'm saying is that there's a age/development spread enough that we won't have instant log-jam and if all three of these guys are top 6 capable centers, then wing is an option or we simply move Kadri at that point for a (hopefully) good return.
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AHL re-alignment
The AHL has re-aligned its divisions for the upcoming season, and the Marlies will now be in the North Division of the Eastern Conference.
Their new Division mates comprise of the 5 Upstate NY teams (Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton, Albany, Utica), along with St. John's.
Prospect fans will have a lot of new faces & teams to watch, especially since the Marlies were previously in the Western Conference.
4 Canadian NHL affiliates (MTL/OTT/TOR/VAN) along with TBL. Will be nice to see progress and development based on lots of competition with other Canadian teams' and the highly-successful Lightning systems. And then, there's the Devils. lol.
The AHL has re-aligned its divisions for the upcoming season, and the Marlies will now be in the North Division of the Eastern Conference.
Their new Division mates comprise of the 5 Upstate NY teams (Rochester, Syracuse, Binghamton, Albany, Utica), along with St. John's.
Prospect fans will have a lot of new faces & teams to watch, especially since the Marlies were previously in the Western Conference.
4 Canadian NHL affiliates (MTL/OTT/TOR/VAN) along with TBL. Will be nice to see progress and development based on lots of competition with other Canadian teams' and the highly-successful Lightning systems. And then, there's the Devils. lol.
A lot of people got annoyed with me during the draft year when I said we needed to draft him and raved about him every single day.
Me Leading Up To Our Pick
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=87093767&postcount=809
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=87094507&highlight=#post87094507
Me When He Got Picked
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=87096011&highlight=#post87096011
A couple things from that thread
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=87053137&highlight=#post87053137
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=87082547&highlight=#post87082547
Well he isn't eligible for the Marlies in 2016-2017 is what I'm saying. If he doesn't make the Leafs(I assume he would), he would have to go back to London.
Daisy Jane
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Leafs at Knight
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Daisy Jane
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yup.
he doesn't really luck out on Draft day does he.
I'm happy to say that I'm glad he didn't get who he wanted in these 2 cases.
Daisy Jane
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well to be fair, we'll not know how Ritchie or Strome will fare in their perspective organizations - however, me too. I like Nylander + Marner
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well to be fair, we'll not know how Ritchie or Strome will fare in their perspective organizations - however, me too. I like Nylander + Marner
Yea of course, its just my opinion.
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I went back and forth a bit on the 2014 draft...
Bennett was always my fav...
Went back and forth mainly on Nylander and others...
Eventually i honed in on Nylander...
Its funny though for a bit i was actually praising Kapanen and i was trying to make a case for him at #8...
My thought process was that he had the skill and speed of Nylander and was a more aggressive puck hound... Obviously after further research i decided Willy was the best pick but funny that we ended up with both.
Bennett was always my fav...
Went back and forth mainly on Nylander and others...
Eventually i honed in on Nylander...
Its funny though for a bit i was actually praising Kapanen and i was trying to make a case for him at #8...
My thought process was that he had the skill and speed of Nylander and was a more aggressive puck hound... Obviously after further research i decided Willy was the best pick but funny that we ended up with both.
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Too much self congratulation in this thread. People are going to strain a muscle patting themselves on the back. It would be more interesting to hear about players we missed on or times we pumped the tires of the wrong players. Me? MPS recently and, a long time ago, this kid who played for the Soo. Amazing scorer and setup guy, but very slight and not really fast. He would never last in the rigours of the NHL. The Kid turned out OK.
We all get things wrong from time to time.
We all get things wrong from time to time.
For me it's all about the next Sundin, Jens Karlsson.
In my case it's more like I get things right from time to time.
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Please tell me you're talking about Gretzky! Haha.
I was all aboard the Filatov hype train. I thought for sure he'd be the next Bure. Lol. Still think his failings are all mental.
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Bennett was my favourite player in last years draft as well. Marner was my favourite this year so i am glad that we got 1 of them. Last year at the time i also really liked Virtanen but now i am really happy we have Nylander.
Players I had wanted us to draft in the past few drafts.....
- Nikita Kucherov
- William Nylander
- Mikhail Grigorenko
- Filip Forsberg
- Nikita Scherbak
- Nikita Zadorov
- Nikita Korostelev
I have had some good predictions on players who I thought had great potential and have shown it in the NHL (Forsberg, Kucherov.) Where some have shown to be sub par (Grigorenko, Zadorov.)
Also of note for some reason I tend to want the guys called "Nikita" and seem to lean a lot towards the Russian's. Although the Russian thing has more to do with the fact they tend to fall further than they should due to the stupid "Russian factor" which does not seem to effect as many players as we expect.
- Nikita Kucherov
- William Nylander
- Mikhail Grigorenko
- Filip Forsberg
- Nikita Scherbak
- Nikita Zadorov
- Nikita Korostelev
I have had some good predictions on players who I thought had great potential and have shown it in the NHL (Forsberg, Kucherov.) Where some have shown to be sub par (Grigorenko, Zadorov.)
Also of note for some reason I tend to want the guys called "Nikita" and seem to lean a lot towards the Russian's. Although the Russian thing has more to do with the fact they tend to fall further than they should due to the stupid "Russian factor" which does not seem to effect as many players as we expect.
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So basically anyone named Nikita lol
Idk if you edited that last part where you mention that or not because I just skimmed through it. So if so, my bad.
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