Confirmed Signing with Link: [PHI] Kevin Hayes signs (7 Years, $7.14M AAV)

[Dooble08]

I guess this pushes Patrick to the 3rd line, then.

Yeah that was the plan. Helps his development out. It was a bit of a stretch for him to be a 2c in his first 2 years.

 

[Tripod]

I guess this pushes Patrick to the 3rd line, then.

That's on Patrick.He should be working his ass off all summer with a chip on his shoulder now. And the Flyers will be a better team because of it.

If Patrick was consistent this year and showed he was a #2C, then this deal doesn't happen. But now we have 3 good centers fighting it out.

And Frost will have to prove it too...and when he does, Hayes can slide to wing.

What this does do, is make it much more likely JVR is traded next summer.

 

[JrFischer54]

without talking about how good or bad the player is

the contract is fine and follows the regular growth of the salary cap itself

 

[Cor]

Philly is paying almost 14M next year to have Kevin Hayes and Matt Niskanen on their roster.

So that's good for them.

 

[kdog82]

Too many years and too much money.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Now look who he played with:

Kreider, Buchn, Vesey, etc...

With Philly he likely has JVR and Voracek as his wingers.

And sisters of the poor as his D-men.

 

[le_sean]

Now look who he played with:

Kreider, Buchn, Vesey, etc...

With Philly he likely has JVR and Voracek as his wingers.

Well that’s good, you’ll have a $22.4m 2nd line that had a combined 168 points last season. You would hope paying that much that you’d get two players getting that many combined points instead of three players.

 

[TGWL]

Is this a different guy then the Kevin Hays who was mediocre for the Rangers fo the past few years?

Yeah, it's the Kevin Hayes who has been a lot better than mediocre / average for the last year and 1/2. Kevin Hayes started playing much better after he was given a bigger opportunity in the 2017-2018 season, after the trade deadline. 24 points in the final 28 games. That play carried over to last year where he was a good player. He had a rough first 8 games only putting up 2 points, but then put up 40 in 43 games with us. What took place after being traded I can't speak on. The contract term at 7 years is rough, but Kevin Hayes has been much better over the last 1 1/2 years.

 

[qwerty]

I had anticipated a desperate GM would offer him $7M per season, so I’m not surprised to see this signing. Although I am surprised to see it was Philly though. Figured it be a Montreal or Columbus or whoever ended up going for Duchene and failed.

I guess having 1 good year really can get you paid in this league.

 

[Tripod]

Philly is paying almost 14M next year to have Kevin Hayes and Matt Niskanen on their roster.

So that's good for them.

You can afford that when you are paying your #1C and #1G just over 5 million combined.

 

[Cor]

You can afford that when you are paying your #1C and #1G just over 5 million combined.

Just because you have cap space, doesn't mean you need to blow it wildly.

For reference; See Toronto, giving Marleau 6.25M x 3 just because we had the space

 

[kp61c]

why so much and for so long? dumb signing

 

[I am not exposed]

That is an outrageous amount for Kevin freaking Hayes.
Duchene and Panarin must be licking their lips at this point!

 

[JrFischer54]

you guys do realize when the cap hits like 100 million we will have hayes type players making 10 million a year right?

 

[Dooble08]

Well that’s good, you’ll have a $22.4m 2nd line that had a combined 168 points last season. You would hope paying that much that you’d get two players getting that many combined points instead of three players.

Yeah it's kinda weird that we are paying our top line (projected) 16-17 million for around 200 points. Guess it evens itself out in the end.

 

[sa cyred]

you guys do realize when the cap hits like 100 million we will have hayes type players making 10 million a year right?

Seems like some dont understand cap %

 

[burstnbloom]

Philly is paying almost 14M next year to have Kevin Hayes and Matt Niskanen on their roster.

So that's good for them.

Kevin Hayes, Matt Niskanen, Justin Braun, Andy MacDonald buyout, Gudas retention = $18, 821, 667 in cap space next year. Not a single player likely to drive to more goals than they give up.

What is happening in Philadelphia?

Caveat- I can't see any of this stuff hurting them long term (other than the term on HAyes's terrible contract) but its still astounding.

 

[FlyguyOX]

That is an outrageous amount for Kevin freaking Hayes.
Duchene and Panarin must be licking their lips at this point!

You do realize Hayes is just as good as Duchene in totality, if not better, right?

player	position	season	Team	TOI	GF_60	GA_60	GPM_60	xGF_60	xGA_60	xGPM_60	CF_60	CA_60	CPM_60
KEVIN.HAYES	F	20182019	NYR/WPG	981.62	0.109	0.002	0.107	0.114	-0.129	0.243	1.19	-2.65	3.85
MATT.DUCHENE	F	20182019	CBJ/OTT	1130.12	0.227	0.162	0.065	0.089	0.011	0.079	-0.23	1.14	-1.36

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Cor]

you guys do realize when the cap hits like 100 million we will have hayes type players making 10 million a year right?

We are many many years away from hitting 100 million lol

 

[JrFischer54]

Seems like some dont understand cap %

i dont know if thats sarcastic towards me lol

 

[Cor]

You do realize Hayes is just as good as Duchene in totality, if not better, right?

lmao.

 

[Hogan86]

The NHL free agency market has just gone crazy. We've got young guns coming out of entry level deals getting 8 figures. You got guys like Hayes who are middle six, 45-50 point forwards making 7+. How much more inflated will these deals get? It's insane.

 

[le_sean]

Yeah it's kinda weird that we are paying our top line (projected) 16-17 million for around 200 points. Guess it evens itself out in the end.

I guess that type of cost/production allows you to overpay for more production. If your fans are happy, so be it. I’d find it tough to digest paying 7m per for a guy that’s hit 50 points once in his career, but that’s me.

 

[JrFischer54]

We are many many years away from hitting 100 million lol

it will happen eventually and players will get paid the correct % of it. just the way salaries go in sports

 

[sa cyred]

i dont know if thats sarcastic towards me lol

No I am agreeing! Sorry!