Confirmed Signing with Link: [PHI] Kevin Hayes signs (7 Years, $7.14M AAV)

[Crease]

Other than his contract year, Hayes has been a 2/3 C tweener his whole career. 7x7 is a gamble any way you slice it.

 

[SpezDispenser]

My man, you are a Sens fan, maybe you sit this out.

We have a crap owner, so we can't have an opinion on contracts? Okay, thanks!

 

[Muffin]

Lol, and people said Draisaitl at 8.5 was bad.

By being overpaid he made himself not overpaid. He's the one who drove up the market. Man Chiarelli was bad. It's like if Colorado paid MacKinnon 9 Million back then, he'd still be considered a good contract now but overpaid when it was signed.

 

[TheBluePenguin]

This makes me sad, there is going to be another lockout

 

[Crease]

This makes me sad, there is going to be another lockout

The owners spend 50% of revenue regardless of how much or how little Hayes gets paid.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

That Jeff Skinner contract is looking better and better...

Does it? That's a real Sophie's Choice.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Size? Faceoff ability? I give up.

He has size, but I would hardly say he's a bruiser. More Eric Daze than Todd Bertuzzi.

 

[le_sean]

Other than his contract year, Hayes has been a 2/3 C tweener his whole career. 7x7 is a gamble any way you slice it.

Majority of his points came playing an absurd 19:27 per game with the Rangers.

 

[TheBluePenguin]

The owners spend 50% of revenue regardless of how much or how little Hayes gets paid.

I know but when players like Hayes makes that much, its not a good sign. The GMs are backing themselves into a corner IMO The pressure to win now is overtaking the the future. Just my opinion, seems crazy with these amounts, it seems the Cap is not growing in line with the contracts

 

[Sorry]

I had to read the headline a three or four times to be sure I wasn't reading it wrong. If the term was four or five years I could see an overpayment around 6.5AAV. But seven years? Ludicrous.

Get rid of the Andrew Macdonald contract only to replace it with a new albatross a few days later. What in the world.

 

[BostonBruins11]

this Makes Nylander's contract look good

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Interesting. I'm not sure he does one thing so well that that's the case. Thornton was and is an elite passer with great vision. What is that one thing that Hayes can fall back on?

He's a skill player with great size who doesn't rely on skating to be effective.

 

[OTC]

A few seasons ago there were some 6x6 (ish) contracts that turned into killers. Lucic, Ericsson, Ladd. Here we are about to see some of these killer contracts cranked up to 7.

I like Kevin Hayes fine enough. But 7x7 is what you'd expect to pay a core piece. I don't think a 55 point 2nd line C is a core piece. I hope he turns himself into a core guy, but he should have established that already before the payday, in my opinion.

But I remember saying that Patrick Sharp signing a 4x4 with Chicago back in like 2009 meant that things were getting out of control. So I guess it's just expected that the numbers will continue to go up. It's probably time to stop being surprised by this.

Hawks/ Sharp also won multiple cups

 

[calder candidate]

I think it is too much $ for a guy that doesn't have much room to improve offensively and isn’t stellar defensively... but why acquire is right too sign him to a 7years deal... you had the option to go to 8 years to spread de cap hit... 50M$ for 8 years is still too much but it might help it make it more manageable...

 

[isles55]

JVR is significantly better and got less money and term from the same team.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Majority of his points came playing an absurd 19:27 per game with the Rangers.

I’m willing to bet that 100% of his points came during his 19:27 of avg ice time.

 

[le_sean]

I’m willing to bet that 100% of his points came during his 19:27 of avg ice time.

The majority of his points in last year’s career year of 54 points came with the Rangers, in which he averaged an extremely high 19:27 of icetime per game. It is also his only season of more than 50 points.

Better?

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

So the Flyers got a signed Hayes for a 5th? Pretty good deal. He's a center right? Centers always make more than you think they should. If he can be a good center with his size I think this helps Philly. But I'm no capologist.

 

[Ruck Over]

By being overpaid he made himself not overpaid. He's the one who drove up the market. Man Chiarelli was bad. It's like if Colorado paid MacKinnon 9 Million back then, he'd still be considered a good contract now but overpaid when it was signed.

Emphasis added.

There's a weird coincidence in here, maybe the makings of a satirical joke. This is awfully similar to executive pay in the corporate world. Huge factor of "rising costs".

 

[tictactoe]

Lol, and people said Draisaitl at 8.5 was bad.

lol... who said that and when? this is like the dumbest comment here...

 

[King In The North]

I guess this pushes Patrick to the 3rd line, then.

 

[Tripod]

Majority of his points came playing an absurd 19:27 per game with the Rangers.

Now look who he played with:

Kreider, Buchn, Vesey, etc...

With Philly he likely has JVR and Voracek as his wingers.

 

[Dooble08]

Does anyone know of NMC or NTC clauses? I'd assume there are none, which is why we are paying him 7 mil a season. If there are none, completely fine with the deal. He'll be in Seattle in 2 years if that's the case.

 

[tictactoe]

JVR is significantly better and got less money and term from the same team.

and JVR is also one way player that brings nothing on D. So if you look at points per games sure... JVR is better was older and under smaller cap and probably wanted to come to his old team. Hayes still overpaid.. no question about it.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Above average 2way 2C - Check
Helps PK and drives play? - Check if keeps up last years pace. Him and Coots on PK phewwww.
Seattle Expansion - Expose Voracek, JVR, Hayes (If Frost/Patrick are ready to step up). Cap solved.

I like this signing alot more than if we had signed Duchene for an albatross of an overpayment for an extremely one-dimensional Elite 2C.