GDT: Peter Chiarelli vs HFOil | End of Season Presser | 12:00 PM | Streamed

[McFlash97]

The goal differential between Strome and Eberle was 12 goals. That would not scratch the surface of getting us into the playoffs even if he had scored them here in Edmonton.

yes it would.

We had almost 10, 1 goal losses. You want to do the math. Also the 13 more assists would help in a few more wins. Lets not get carried away here and pretend Strome helped the Oilers in any way.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Once they tweak their defense and goaltending, much better than we will next year.

They will be doing a lot of tweaking without Tavares.

 

[Soundwave]

To be honest if they were gonna lob softballs I wish someone had asked whether or not they'll have a new third (blue) jersey next year.

 

[McFlash97]

The way Peter left the RNH comment at the end with one 3 words when asked whether RNH should remain a winger, it leads me to believe this bumbling idiot would trade RNH if he felt the dman he was getting back was the right fit in Edmonton. In other words a disastrous move incoming...

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

well even he admitted that was a mistake

and he made a mistake for not spending the cap savings

Which would be fine if we still had that cap space. But we don’t. He saved cap space in a year he didn’t need to and proceeded to not use it. Just a tad shortsighted by a guy who’s in charge of the team.

 

[Soundwave]

Watching the 1990 Oilers yesterday on Sportsnet (Classic game), it's amazing how much faster that team is than this group. It was night and day.

Even Huddy was an insane skater.

 

[Faelko]

Even then so...When's the last time the Oilers actually had a player marinating in the AHL, lighting that league up...

Yamamoto, Puljujarvi, Benson, Bear etc all need to be in Bakersfield learning the pro game...not here.

You’re right but you know that’s not how it’s gonna play out though. With our cap number right now I don’t see any way they don’t try Yamamoto at RW to start, even though he’s better served in the AHL.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

yes it would.

We had almost 10, 1 goal losses. You want to do the math. Also the 13 more assists would help in a few more wins. Lets not get carried away here and pretend Strome helped the Oilers in any way.

Eberle helped the Isles to less wins than the Oilers

 

[CycloneSweep]

Eberle helped the Isles to less wins than the Oilers

We. Downgraded. A. Player. For. Cap. Space. We. Didn't. Need.

I don't know why you can't understand that and keep defending Chias non existant honor

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

yes it would.

We had almost 10, 1 goal losses. You want to do the math. Also the 13 more assists would help in a few more wins. Lets not get carried away here and pretend Strome helped the Oilers in any way.

Eberle would have - could have scored all those goals getting us 10 points closer, maybe even 15 to the playoffs. But still not in the playoffs.
He scored 20 here in his last season, including 3 in the final game and how many in garbage time, while playing in large part with McDavid till he played himself down to the 4th line and rare 2nd line PP duty when the games really mattered.

Lets not get carried away and pretend Eberle would have gotten all those goals here.
Lets also not pretend Strome was fairly effective as a 2.5M cap hit 3rd line centre once he was finally deployed properly by his head coach.

 

[McFlash97]

Eberle helped the Isles to less wins than the Oilers

Strome helped the Oilers to miss the playoffs....


I can do this too ...

 

[McFlash97]

Eberle would have - could have scored all those goals getting us 10 points closer, maybe even 15 to the playoffs. But still not in the playoffs.
He scored 20 here in his last season, including 3 in the final game and how many in garbage time, while playing in large part with McDavid till he played himself down to the 4th line and rare 2nd line PP duty when the games really mattered.

Lets not get carried away and pretend Eberle would have gotten all those goals here.
Lets also not pretend Strome was fairly effective as a 2.5M cap hit 3rd line centre once he was finally deployed properly by his head coach.

lol were talking about Ryan Strome here bud. Garbage time results for a garbage time player all his career. There is nothing about Strome's game that helps a team make the playoffs. he's a 4th liner at best. You don't win in todays NHL with Strome centering your third line.

 

[t0nedeff]

He answered not that specific question but it was stated by him twice the need for cap space.

"What was the reasoning for not using the cap space from the Eberle trade?"[/QUOTE]

He has also been asked that and indicated the cap space was to be used later in the year to augment the team for playoffs. He also said there were no free agents they targeted who wanted a one year deal.

[/QUOTE]"Having traded Hall and seeing what kind of season he has had and considering the Seguin situation, do you think you will be more cautious in making trades of that nature going forward?"[/QUOTE]

That’s a question that has no business at a season ending press conference when Hall was traded 2 seasons ago. It’s also a sour grapes fanboy basement blogger question.

[/QUOTE]"What exactly is the five year plan that's been spoken about? Where did you have the team at year 3?"[/QUOTE]

The first part of your question is ridiculous because nobody is going to give you a specific answer. The second part is a very good question. The answer would probably have been in the playoffs but we were not thinking we’d be in the playoffs last year.

[/QUOTE]"Who is primarily responsible for this season?"[/QUOTE]

That was also asked indirectly. He stated players, coaches and management via his various answers.[/QUOTE]


aha what Vanek signed a 1 year 2 million dollar deal with f***ing Vancouver a team that was expected to be bottom of the barrel. The guy went on to put 56 points up for the year and helped Columbus make that push to secure a playoff spot. If he traded Eberle for cap reasons there was absolutely no logical reason why he wouldn't have offered Vanek a guy who was being pushed out of the league with his last contract a spot on the team. Boom you save cap space going forward and you replace a 6 million dollar players output with a 2 million dollar player whose contract would be up at the end of the year. It actually offends me if he truly made that statement guy is so dense that he doesn't even keep his pulse to the league when the players aren't directly in the spotlight.

 

[THall4]

Strome helped the Oilers to miss the playoffs....


I can do this too ...

And scored less than Eberle did.

 

[McShogun99]

so Eberle was the difference between a 103 point team and a 78 point team?
that's a weak arguement

Obviously more then Eberle. We traded a top 6 RW without replacing him. We replaced DD with Strome. Bought out the teams best PKer and didn't replace him. Sekera was out for what might have been the season. Klefbom was injured for the entire season. Larsson dealing with back and personal issues for 3/4 of the season. Lucic has horrible.

Yet somehow in all of this we only scored 13 less goals then last season. It was Talbot and team defence that let us down this season. 51 more goals against were scored against us.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

aha what Vanek signed a 1 year 2 million dollar deal with ****ing Vancouver a team that was expected to be bottom of the barrel. The guy went on to put 56 points up for the year and helped Columbus make that push to secure a playoff spot. If he traded Eberle for cap reasons there was absolutely no logical reason why he wouldn't have offered Vanek a guy who was being pushed out of the league with his last contract a spot on the team. Boom you save cap space going forward and you replace a 6 million dollar players output with a 2 million dollar player whose contract would be up at the end of the year. It actually offends me if he truly made that statement guy is so dense that he doesn't even keep his pulse to the league when the players aren't directly in the spotlight.

The team was not looking for a Vanek at the time. It was looking for a defenceman to replace Sekera and there were none to be found who fit the bill and who would sign a 1 year deal.

Vanek by the way, is not someone who I would want anywhere near McDavid and young developing players. Vanek works when Vanek wants to work. With Vanek its all about Vanek.

 

[t0nedeff]

The team was not looking for a Vanek at the time. It was looking for a defenceman to replace Sekera and there were none to be found who fit the bill and who would sign a 1 year deal.

Vanek by the way, is not someone who I would want anywhere near McDavid and young developing players. Vanek works when Vanek wants to work. With Vanek its all about Vanek.

Give me a break. Wasn't looking for a Vanek? Thats exactly why the team failed because they were prefectly fine going into a season with JP/Yammo/Drai/Cagguila as their winger options.

Yeah Vanek sure is screwing the pooch with Columbus and their young players like Jones/Werenski/Dubois.

 

[Soundwave]

lol this is just sad

Oilers 11-12 season goals against: 239 (Tambellini era)

Oilers 15-16 season goals against: 245 (McDavid rookie season)

Oilers 17-18 season goals against: 263

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

lol were talking about Ryan Strome here bud. Garbage time results for a garbage time player all his career. There is nothing about Strome's game that helps a team make the playoffs. he's a 4th liner at best. You don't win in todays NHL with Strome centering your third line.

I guess we agree to disagree on Strome. He is a good serviceable 3C. Is he perfect? No. Is he paid $6M like Eberle? No. Give and take. We have 2 other C who command a lot of cash. We will get what we get for a 3C.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Really? You are super excited to see Yamamoto, a young kid, struggle. An Oiler draft pick. This gives you a feeling of glee.

You claim to be an Oiler fan? OK...

Some posters would rather the team or player fail just to say they were right

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Give me a break. Wasn't looking for a Vanek? Thats exactly why the team failed because they were prefectly fine going into a season with JP/Yammo/Drai/Cagguila as their winger options.

Yeah Vanek sure is screwing the pooch with Columbus and their young players like Jones/Werenski/Dubois.

If the team was looking for Vanek they would have signed Vanek. They felt they had enough on the wings and that did not happen.
The team was looking for a D. They have said it multiple times.

As for Vanek, yes maybe under Tortorella he wants to work because if he doesn't he isn't seeing the ice. If he isn't seeing the ice, his next contract will be in the KHL for rubles not US dollars. Its in Vaneks self interest to work hard now.

Vaneks reputation precedes him, I am afraid. Its well documented by others in the hockey business.

 

[North]

And scored less than Eberle did.

Of course Strome was used mainly on the third line and Eberle was a top 6 forward who played plenty with an 85 point rookie.

 

[Soundwave]

If the team was looking for Vanek they would have signed Vanek. They felt they had enough on the wings and that did not happen.
The team was looking for a D. They have said it multiple times.

As for Vanek, yes maybe under Tortorella he wants to work because if he doesn't he isn't seeing the ice. If he isn't seeing the ice, his next contract will be in the KHL for rubles not US dollars. Its in Vaneks self interest to work hard now.

Vaneks reputation precedes him, I am afraid. Its well documented by others in the hockey business.

Not like you need shooters on the PP.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

lol this is just sad

Oilers 11-12 season goals against: 239 (Tambellini era)

Oilers 15-16 season goals against: 245 (McDavid rookie season)

Oilers 17-18 season goals against: 263

Oilers 16-17 season goals against: 212 (Chiarelli Era)

Also isn't scoring up 10% this year due to the tighter restrictions on slashing and holding?

Anyway what point is cherry picking your stats making? You are posting random stuff ad nauseam again.

And this thread has, as expected devolved into another Fire Chia thread.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Not like you need shooters on the PP.

Not like Vanek has a poor reputation that the team was trying to avoid.