Penticton YoungStars tournament (VAN/EDM/CGY/WPG)

[YMCMBYOLO]

tbh Flames fans are being really hypocritical saying "McDavid better watch out or he'll get PLASTERED in this tournament or in the NHL."

Cmon guys, we all know that won't happen. Everyone was saying the exact same thing about Gaudreau but we all know he never got plastered once (minus the cheapshot in the playoffs by Burrows). Some players are so skilled and shifty that they can avoid the big hits. I expect the same with McDavid.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Connor McDavid before the Oshawa series in the Playoffs - 2.8 Points Per Game.
Connor McDavid in the Oshawa series - 1.4 Points Per Game.

This is the OHL we're talking about. It's far easier to score in the OHL than in the NCAA or NHL. I'd say he did a great job at shutting down an unbelievable player.

To be fair, while Cassels had an amazing series and turned a lot of heads in the playoffs, Oshawa used a five man group to shut down McDavid. He was just one of the group, albeit an important part of it.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

The Flames will be just as good as the Jets and Oilers. They dominated this tournament last year. (+8 goal diffential .60 corsi). Only Granlund, Ortio, and Gaudreau won't be playing, not sure about Jooris or Ferland (contract).

They have just as good of a chance as anyone.

 

[YMCMBYOLO]

There NHL team has noone who can hit. Either does the legit prospects. Only the face punchers invited have any toughness

Say hello to Michael Ferland, Ladi Smid, Bollig, Bouma.

Talented offensive players in this tourney who can hit: Smith, Poirier, Bennett

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

tbh Flames fans are being really hypocritical saying "McDavid better watch out or he'll get PLASTERED in this tournament or in the NHL."

Cmon guys, we all know that won't happen. Everyone was saying the exact same thing about Gaudreau but we all know he never got plastered once (minus the cheapshot in the playoffs by Burrows). Some players are so skilled and shifty that they can avoid the big hits. I expect the same with McDavid.

I just find it ironic that they are hiding McDavid from the flames. How many posts did McTopChowda and ChaoticOrange say that Johnny was too scared to play against Anaheim in the third when the game was 5-1?... Too funny.

 

[Josepho]

tbh Flames fans are being really hypocritical saying "McDavid better watch out or he'll get PLASTERED in this tournament or in the NHL."

Cmon guys, we all know that won't happen. Everyone was saying the exact same thing about Gaudreau but we all know he never got plastered once (minus the cheapshot in the playoffs by Burrows). Some players are so skilled and shifty that they can avoid the big hits. I expect the same with McDavid.

While that is an ignorant comment to immediately assume that he'll get demolished in the NHL, the Pacific Division is full of goons and it could just be a case of "Wrong Place, Wrong Time". Injuries are often just based on bad luck, not necessarily any faults of the player.

 

[oStealthKiller*]

I can read perfectly fine thank you. It's this scribble:

"There NHL team has noone who can hit. Either does the legit prospects. Only the face punchers invited have any toughness"

What are you talking about?

I said it's delaying the inevitable as in the Flames will beat the Oilers as in the Flames sweeping the Oil last season.

Seeing how angry the idea of waiting an extra 30 days to see mcdavid (unless u want to watch a non edm-cal game) is worth delaying the "inevitable"

 

[Jetabre]

Love this tournament, can't wait.

 

[Whileee]

Was actually thinking the same thing, Virtanen is flying under the radar right now, but he is the kind of player rival teams will absolutely hate. His hits border on reckless.

Rodrigo Abols is an interesting name on the Canucks' roster. Big kid that played in the KHL last year. They'll be just showcasing him though, couldn't sign him if they wanted to. Similar to the Oilers with the Russian kid last year who's name escapes me right now.

Most of these prospects have played in body-checking leagues for some time now, and many have played against Virtanen for a few years. If his main contribution is a few body-checks and he isn't able to put it together and produce some offense I wouldn't worry too much about him.

 

[McDrai]

I just find it ironic that they are hiding McDavid from the flames. How many posts did McTopChowda and ChaoticOrange say that Johnny was too scared to play against Anaheim in the third when the game was 5-1?... Too funny.

Hiding McDavid from the Flames? Did I miss something?
You better hope that he doesn't face the Flames

 

[Frank the Tank]

I just find it ironic that they are hiding McDavid from the flames. How many posts did McTopChowda and ChaoticOrange say that Johnny was too scared to play against Anaheim in the third when the game was 5-1?... Too funny.

NHL playoffs where every player is focused on winning the game for the team are a different beast than a prospects' camp where certain players would do anything to individually distinguish themselves from the pack.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

NHL playoffs where every player is focused on winning the game for the team are a different beast than a prospects' camp where certain players would do anything to individually distinguish themselves from the pack.

Whatever shoe fits.

Oilers won't play McDavid because Kanzig, Smith, and Ferland might be the three toughest young players in the game. But the Flames should play Gaudreau when, after every whistle Clayton Stoner punched him in the face and never got called for anything in a game that was out of reach. Makes sense.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Now I don't remember exactly what the rules for YS Eligibility were, but assuming ELC guys + unsigned CHL prospects show up, the Flames roster could look something like

Kenny Agostino-Sam Bennett-Emile Poirier
Andrew Mangiapane-Bill Arnold-Garnet Hathaway
Morgan Klimchuk-Pavel Kharnaukov-Austin Caroll
Bryce Van Brabant-Tyson Baillie-Hunter Smith
x-Tomas Soustal-x

Wotherspoon-Morrison
Culkin-Kulak
Kanzig-Andersson
Kylington-Bruce
Sieloff-Fram
Roy-x

Gillies
MacDonald

...And of course tryout guys all over the place. Looks like a very good roster to me.



I know that feel. Young Stars would be even more exciting with Jankowski, Harrison, Gilmour, DeBlouw, and the standout invites Hawkins, Pitt, Dienes and Lomberg. The only CHL invites I'm interested in are Bailley, Roy, and Fram.

It really depends how the Oilers want to divvy up the AHL guys, but you could pretty reasonably see:

Chase-McDavid-Slepyshev
Moroz-Draisaitl-Platzer
Khaira-Yakimov-Bukarts
Kessy-Loiseau-Christoffer
(Roy,Sandford,Rankin, etc etc)

No idea on the defence but Nurse, Bear, Jones, Davis, LaLeggia, Simpson, Musil, Oesterle, Marino, Betker, Davidson, Waltz, Leveille, could all be in the mix. Heck if the Flames are bringing Wotherspoon the Oilers could bring Reinhart as well.

Good lord. The Oilers could ice forward/defence line of Draisaitl-McDavid-Slepyshev-Nurse-Reinhart. that's just not fair for a rookie tourney.

Goalies, I really hope it's just Brossoit, Laurikainen, and Papirny. I have no desire to see Keven Bouchard play hockey again.

 

[McAsuno]

I just find it ironic that they are hiding McDavid from the flames. How many posts did McTopChowda and ChaoticOrange say that Johnny was too scared to play against Anaheim in the third when the game was 5-1?... Too funny.

And how do you know the oilers will hide McDavid from the flames?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I just find it ironic that they are hiding McDavid from the flames. How many posts did McTopChowda and ChaoticOrange say that Johnny was too scared to play against Anaheim in the third when the game was 5-1?... Too funny.

Well, I don't recall saying that once, actually. Swell try, though.

Two, nothing has been at all confirmed as to which games McDavid will play.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I just find it ironic that they are hiding McDavid from the flames. How many posts did McTopChowda and ChaoticOrange say that Johnny was too scared to play against Anaheim in the third when the game was 5-1?... Too funny.

they are?

 

[Del Preston]

they are?

They must be, he keeps saying it. Nevermind that the Oilers haven't released their full roster.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Whatever shoe fits.

Oilers won't play McDavid because Kanzig, Smith, and Ferland might be the three toughest young players in the game. But the Flames should play Gaudreau when, after every whistle Clayton Stoner punched him in the face and never got called for anything in a game that was out of reach. Makes sense.

Is anyone under 30 a rookie in Calgary now? There's no way Ferland is eligible to attend this.

Kanzig is awful at hockey. Smith is decent but he's no Cole Cassels.

 

[Johnny GODreau]

Is anyone under 30 a rookie in Calgary now? There's no way Ferland is eligible to attend this.

Kanzig is awful at hockey. Smith is decent but he's no Cole Cassels.

Ferland's 23.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Ferland's 23.

Ferland has played 92 games of professional hockey.

Klefbom has played 134. Where does the line get drawn for 'rookie?'

 

[Johnny GODreau]

Ferland has played 92 games of professional hockey.

Klefbom has played 134. Where does the line get drawn for 'rookie?'

Your asking the wrong "expert" bud.

 

[YMCMBYOLO]

Ferland is an NHL rookie but imo he's graduated from this camp especially since he's played professional hockey for over a year.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Is anyone under 30 a rookie in Calgary now? There's no way Ferland is eligible to attend this.

Kanzig is awful at hockey. Smith is decent but he's no Cole Cassels.

Kanzig is awful yet he was + 56 over the past two seasons. And Jets and Oilers fans were saying it was unfair they had to play against him last year... Because he destroyed about half of your players. So terrible.

Garnett Hathaway.. Face puncher

Austin Carroll (even though he outscored Chase by a lot on the same team).. Face puncher

Hunter Smith (shut down McDavids line, won an OHL championship)... face puncher

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Ferland is an NHL rookie but imo he's graduated from this camp especially since he's played professional hockey for over a year.

This would be my thought as well, same reason the Oilers won't be bringing guys like Pitlick and Pakarinen.

 

[SaintMorose]

I don't know why people say Calgary is sending nothing but goons I expect each team will have 2 forwards and a dman that are wanting to make an impression primarily via fighting or other physical play.

They are going to likely send the top skilled prospect outside of McDavid/Eichel in Bennett as well as a handful of offensive dmen and high scoring AHLers should expect this Flames squad to be able to put the puck into the net more so than the Conner into the boards.

Ferland's 23.

and only lost rookie eligibility by 2 games to boot.

If there's a reason he won't go it'll be the lack of a contract #1 it's very important they get it done by main camp and this tournament isn't going to distract either side from that as he's established enough to have a very good shot at the big team.