GDT: Pens vs Red Wings

[Shady Machine]

Sestito serves more purpose than:
Adams
Winnik
Ebbett
Uher
Lapierre - ZERO GOALS... ZERO GOALS
Wilson


and many, many others of miscast no nothings.

You can't actually believe Sestito serves more of a purpose than Winnik. Please tell me you were exaggerating.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Maybe if we all concentrate really hard and repeatedly say this out loud, it'll come true.

Here's basically how I see things shaking out Top-6 wise.

Kunitz will be on L1 unless he's injured. Even if he sucks, a lot, Sid and Kessel will still produce so much on their own that the old argument of "that line's clicking, no need to tamper with it!" will be used in defending Kunitz's place on it.

If Geno and Hornqvist aren't exactly clicking, Plotnikov will be replaced by Dupuis before Perron and Beau get a look.

Oh, and to add, Beau will get traded at some point in an effort procure some defensive help.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Sestito serves more purpose than:
Adams
Winnik
Ebbett
Uher
Lapierre - ZERO GOALS... ZERO GOALS
Wilson


and many, many others of miscast no nothings.

He'd do less for us than Sundqvist, Sheary, Farnham or Rust. Probably Sprong too.

You can't actually believe Sestito serves more of a purpose than Winnik. Please tell me you were exaggerating.

I didn't even catch Winnik in there

 

[billybudd]

Bennett has looked better so far, so probably him.

Perron hasn't been on television yet. We don't know how he looked. I don't understand how he could be argued to have "looked" better or worse than anybody on the roster.

 

[#66]

Seriously... How the **** does the idiocy span different coaches/coaching staffs, as well as a new head-GM? It's literally the same idiotic personnel ******** we've seen for the past 5 years.

We finally managed to have an insanely deep, all but perfect forward corps. What do we do? Start playing awful, over-the-hill players in important roles, and playing top-6, career LWers (a role we're SUPER thin at) on the right side of the third line.

Bravo, boys.

I've said it for years and been bashes. Coaches don't comes to Pittsburgh to coach... they come to babysit. Its been in place for long before Sid was around.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I've said it for years and been bashes. Coaches don't comes to Pittsburgh to coach... they come to babysit. Its been in place for long before Sid was around.

It might be a bit country club, but coaches are still responsible for **** like Perron on the 3rd line RW or Iginla playing left wing.

 

[MtlPenFan]

This may be the most delusional player quote I've ever read. Scuds on last night's game and thinking he belongs on the roster.

“I know what I can bring to a hockey team,” Scuderi passionately stated. “I know, offensively, I don’t have the talent these other guys do. But, you know what? I can support the play just like anybody else. I can shoot the puck and create some opportunities for our forwards.”

 

[Ogrezilla]

This may be the most delusional player quote I've ever read. Scuds on last night's game and thinking he belongs on the roster.

“I know what I can bring to a hockey team,†Scuderi passionately stated. “I know, offensively, I don’t have the talent these other guys do. But, you know what? I can support the play just like anybody else. I can shoot the puck and create some opportunities for our forwards.â€

he can't honestly believe that, right? More importantly, our coaches can't honestly believe that, right?

 

[Coastal Kev]

You can't actually believe Sestito serves more of a purpose than Winnik. Please tell me you were exaggerating.

Yes, I know as whole, Winnik is a swell hockey player. But I hated the trade and hated it even more once I had to watch him for 2 months.

I like tough guys.... I like them a lot more than a bunch of guys who give you nothing except taking up minutes hopefully at an even +/-.


I really hated that Winnik trade, especially you when you see the value of picks in young Mr. Sprong.

 

[Penguinator]

Scuds should join Rossi's team when he retires. He seems to have mastered using media to BS us...

 

[catnip]

I think the disconnect here is that the powers that be (management, coaching staff) don't look at the roster and see a top 6 - they see a middle 6. From that point of view, Perron on the third line makes sense. They're not trying to build two first lines but two second lines.

 

[Shady Machine]

Yes, I know as whole, Winnik is a swell hockey player. But I hated the trade and hated it even more once I had to watch him for 2 months.

I like tough guys.... I like them a lot more than a bunch of guys who give you nothing except taking up minutes hopefully at an even +/-.


I really hated that Winnik trade, especially you when you see the value of picks in young Mr. Sprong.

Hating the Winnik trade is different than thinking Sestito provides more to a hockey team than Winnik. I didn't like the Winnik trade either. If you actually believe Sestito is more valuable than Winnik, then your opinion is wrong.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

he can't honestly believe that, right? More importantly, our coaches can't honestly believe that, right?

You look at the Johnston quote and it's like brainwashing, stupidity encourages stupidity.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

If we make both Plotnikov and Perron switch wings from what they are used to I will not be happy

If we played our 2nd best wing on the third line I will be even less happy than playing our 3rd best wing on the 3rd line



If an NHL head coach can't get all of Perron, Hornqvist and Kessel effectively into the top 6, he shouldn't be an NHL head coach.

Well said, Ogre.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I think the disconnect here is that the powers that be (management, coaching staff) don't look at the roster and see a top 6 - they see a middle 6. From that point of view, Perron on the third line makes sense. They're not trying to build two first lines but two second lines.

The 2nd line is centered by Evgeni Malkin. The 3rd line is centered by Nick Bonino. If the coach sees this as a top line and then a middle 6 that tells me we need a new coach.

We have the guys to build two first lines and two 3rd lines. Trying to build two 2nd lines is just not smart when Evgeni Malkin is your 2nd center. We have two 1st line quality centers and two 3rd line quality centers when Fehr is healthy.

 

[WayneSid9987]

As for Sestito.

If he looks like he can atleast keep up with the play, i'd rather sign him for 1yr/600k than Gonchar.

If he looks like an AHL skater, then no thanks.

 

[Ogrezilla]

As for Sestito.

If he looks like he can atleast keep up with the play, i'd rather sign him for 1yr/600k than Gonchar.

If he looks like an AHL skater, then no thanks.

But we shouldn't be signing either.

I mean sure, I could shoot myself in the foot. At least its better than shooting myself in the head.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Why play Bennett and Plots on their less effective sides?

Well, because I think Malkin would perform better with a Euro-style line where the wingers are on their off-wings. Besides, Plotnikov played right wing in the KHL, right? And Bennett-Malkin-Neal looked like a money line for us when they were used together.

I would love to try to recreate that line if possible.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Perron-Crosby-Kessel wouldn't work well in my opinion, nor should Hornqvist be bumped down to the 3rd line. If Hornqvist really doesn't work with Malkin (which I don't believe, they just need time), put him on Sid's LW before you bump him down a line. Make the 2nd line Perron-Malkin-Plotnikov and leave it like that.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Perron-Crosby-Kessel wouldn't work well in my opinion, nor should Hornqvist be bumped down to the 3rd line. If Hornqvist really doesn't work with Malkin (which I don't believe, they just need time), put him on Sid's LW before you bump him down a line. Make the 2nd line Perron-Malkin-Plotnikov and leave it like that.

indeed.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Perron-Crosby-Kessel wouldn't work well in my opinion, nor should Hornqvist be bumped down to the 3rd line. If Hornqvist really doesn't work with Malkin (which I don't believe, they just need time), put him on Sid's LW before you bump him down a line. Make the 2nd line Perron-Malkin-Plotnikov and leave it like that.

I could see it working in the offensive zone, but I still think it wouldn't be the best allocation of skill. Perron should be with Malkin on the LW and you go from there. Now, if it's PCK or Perron on the 3rd line RW... PCK and hope they don't have to play defense very often. HCK, PMP/B is very interesting.





KCK, huzzah for competition. But no Scuderi or Gonchar.

 

[WayneSid9987]

So a sample lineup for tomorrow night:

Kunitz-Crosby-Kessel
Wilson-Dea-Sprong
Kuhnackl-Sundqvist-Rust
Sestito-Cullen-Archibald/Marcantuoni

Maata-Pouliot
Domoulin-Cole
Warsofsky-Oleksy/Clendening

Something like that.
Surprised Perron isn't playing.

 

[plaidchuck]

The sad part is.... has anyone actually beat out kunitz for the top spot? That's more of a reflection of how sad the forward depth is.

 

[Gurglesons]

The sad part is.... has anyone actually beat out kunitz for the top spot? That's more of a reflection of how sad the forward depth is.

How is our forward depth sad? We have seven former twenty goal scorers in our forward line-up.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I realize we're rotating stars in and out of the line-up, but considering Letang took a puck off the leg last game, should we read anything into him missing two games in a row?