Cole likely has more value to the Pens as a depth player on defense who walks in the offseason as a UFA. At least the Pens would have him in the fold for another playoff run. I think it is difficult to imagine the Pens somehow using him to secure an upgrade at center that fits in terms of age and/or salary.
Rumor: Pens Trying to Trade Ian Cole
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Liferleafer
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Okay, so after last night....it's clear Polak should not ever play again....and Gardiner should sometimes be shot out of a cannon. Lets get this Bozak/Cole deal done.
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Per Mark Madden, Pittsburgh Sports Radio guy, please take it with a grain of salt because he likes to play up his "insider knowledge" of the Pens org to a maximum level... But he is usually only a shade/degree to the left or right of the truth. Said Cole's agent contacted GMJR about trading Cole to a team he could possibly get a long term extension done on. GMJR gave the agent permission to find teams that would want him and JR would see if there was a trade he was interested in from teams off of that list. But that very minimal interest was show in a trade + extension.
He is also supposed to play tonight in Buffalo, so odds are Cole will still be a Penguin for the foreseeable future. Most likely revisited come trade deadline when GM's are chomping at the bit to makes additions to try and push their team over the edge. This early in the season its safe to say that most GM's are not willing to trade what GMJR would want and are more comfortable with just seeing what they have for the time being in their own organizations or making a smaller trade and wait to make a big move closer or at the deadline.
He is also supposed to play tonight in Buffalo, so odds are Cole will still be a Penguin for the foreseeable future. Most likely revisited come trade deadline when GM's are chomping at the bit to makes additions to try and push their team over the edge. This early in the season its safe to say that most GM's are not willing to trade what GMJR would want and are more comfortable with just seeing what they have for the time being in their own organizations or making a smaller trade and wait to make a big move closer or at the deadline.
After seeing Oleksiak as making the Pens team I just kind of sit and laugh... as a flyers fan.
Even with the increase in cap space the pens can't hold onto Cole? I know they don't have any decent D prospects, but I mean Oleksiak starting???
I would be weary trading Cole for another offensive piece. That D lineup just looks flat out awful. With Sprong, Aston-Reese, Bjorkvist (however you spell it) there is some decent scoring in the AHL with prospects.
Pens need some serious serious D help. Why trade your top 4 Dman for a 3rd line guy? He may have more value to the pens than most teams, but you could get a #3/4 Dman back. Having Hunwick and Oleksiak starting is a goal given up in the making.
4th line too is the line that needs some help if at all on the pens. I don't think their problem lies with their offense. I think it may be after Letang, Schultz, and Doumlin they really have nothing if Cole leaves.
Even with the increase in cap space the pens can't hold onto Cole? I know they don't have any decent D prospects, but I mean Oleksiak starting???
I would be weary trading Cole for another offensive piece. That D lineup just looks flat out awful. With Sprong, Aston-Reese, Bjorkvist (however you spell it) there is some decent scoring in the AHL with prospects.
Pens need some serious serious D help. Why trade your top 4 Dman for a 3rd line guy? He may have more value to the pens than most teams, but you could get a #3/4 Dman back. Having Hunwick and Oleksiak starting is a goal given up in the making.
4th line too is the line that needs some help if at all on the pens. I don't think their problem lies with their offense. I think it may be after Letang, Schultz, and Doumlin they really have nothing if Cole leaves.
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As a flyers fan, you shouldn't be laughing at anyone, let alone the Penguins who have won consecutive cups. Also Cole plays on the 3rd pairing, but he's gonna get top 4 money, somewhere in the range of 4 to 4.5 million a year. Penguins can't afford that, especially if he's gonna play as a #5/6, there are cheaper options.. One last thing, Penguins offense is a HUGE problem this year, they're one of the worst teams in the league 5 on 5. Losing Bonino and Cullen has left their bottom 6 in shambles and unable to contribute.
TL;DR your whole post is completely wrong and shows a total lack of knowledge in anything Penguins related....
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Mr Jiggyfly
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You forgot about Maatta.
When Schultz comes back, Cole looked to be the odd man out even before the trade:
Dumo Letang
Maatta Schultz
Ruhwedl Hunwick
Pens top four is more than fine once Schultz is back. Would be nice to have another puck mover on the bottom pair, but we'll see.
Cole is going to get overpaid in UFA and the Pens need to re-sign Hornqvist. Sullivan and Cole also apparently have a rift.
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Kind of hard to pump Cole's tires when he was too good to play to protect his trade value, then they started playing him again, and now he's not playing again
Regardless of what Cole might get on next contract, doesn't smell right at all coming out of PIT regardless of possible Sullivan rift
Regardless of what Cole might get on next contract, doesn't smell right at all coming out of PIT regardless of possible Sullivan rift
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I doubt that for many reasons.
Cole will probably get moved either as a solo piece or in a package for a better 3rd line center than Sheahan. I actually wonder if the Penguins would use Sheahan as a trade chip in that package, Cole and Sheahan together cost a little over $4 million and you can get a good center with $4 million.
Maybe Cole (with an extension) and Sheahan to Dallas for Faksa? Dallas has issues on LD and they have multiple other 3rd line centers (Seguin, Spezza, Hanzal and Shore are all centers). Sheahan slides into the 4C spot, Hanzal or Shore is the 3C and Cole gives them a little bit of help on LD.
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Well, based on Eddy B's post he wants an extension so that puts the Leafs out. Cole isn't the kind of defenceman you invest long term in.
Besides, our center depth takes a huge hit all to upgrade our bottom pairing. Doubt Lou would do that.
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Would probably need to include Sheahan as well to make the salaries work.
Leafs probably won't make this move until Matthews is fully healthy, though.
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Umm, we just signed Hainsey for 3 years.....what makes you think they won't sign Cole as a Polak/Carrick replacement?
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Cole's tape playing a major part in them winning two cups will speak to his value much more than the rift between Sullivan and Cole.
He's a proven winner and sometimes a coach and player simply don't get along.
Cole likes to speak his mind, especially to reporters, and it has apparently rubbed Sullivan the wrong way too often.
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"Long term"
There is no sense wasting roster spots for more than a couple year on guys who won't be difference makers
Why are flyers fans laughing at Pittsburgh ? That would be like Habs fans laughing at them
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3 weeks ago people on here were saying that teams were falling all over themselves trying to get the Pens to deal him to them. Can we now admit that it was either Cole's agent or the Pens front office trying to drum up business for an average bottom pairing D?
He might get them a 2nd/3rd round pick from someone, but there is no great demand for this guy.
He might get them a 2nd/3rd round pick from someone, but there is no great demand for this guy.
ColbyChaos
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Him winning a cup doesnt mean he is better than Tanev unless you also want to say Dave Bolland was a better center than Giroux, Kesler, Johnson, etc because of his cups...
inthe6ix
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Pens fans, why is he on the outs with Sullivan?
If the consensus is that he's worth around a 2nd/3rd, I'd be confident a deal could be swung with PIT for Cole+ for Bozak.
PIT is looking for a #3C anyways and we could use a low-pairing guy to replace Carrick/Marincin.
9pts in 25 playoff games last year with 18:50 avg TOI are decent numbers.
If the consensus is that he's worth around a 2nd/3rd, I'd be confident a deal could be swung with PIT for Cole+ for Bozak.
PIT is looking for a #3C anyways and we could use a low-pairing guy to replace Carrick/Marincin.
9pts in 25 playoff games last year with 18:50 avg TOI are decent numbers.
