Prospect Info: Patrik Nemeth

[2015]

What do you think about him, will he ever be a big part of this franchise?

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[txomisc]

Well if he can stay healthy he has all the makings of a 2nd pairing defensive defenseman

 

[Bluesoma]

Pretty much. Decent skating, good use of the body, decent awareness in his own zone. Been a fairly good shutdown guy in Cedar Park. Main knock on him is that he needs to make better decisions with the puck in his own end, sometimes holding it for too long and getting forechecked hard or making a slightly ill advised pass. He's getting better at it.

As it is now, I see him being a mid season call up or waiting another season unless trades/injuries happen.

 

[Dr GLU]

If you could put his brain in Oleksiak's body, we'd have a guaranteed top pairing guy. He has the confidence and killer instinct that Jamie seems to lack. He's held back mainly by the fact that he seems injury prone.

 

[FrailSwan]

Him and Klingberg will probably be the ones with Dallas next year. Him moreso, though

 

[BigG44]

Him and Klingberg will probably be the ones with Dallas next year. Him moreso, though

I agree, but if they only have room for one rookie, I think Klingberg's right shot gives him the edge over Nemeth. Seems pretty important to both Nill and Ruff.

 

[txomisc]

I agree, but if they only have room for one rookie, I think Klingberg's right shot gives him the edge over Nemeth. Seems pretty important to both Nill and Ruff.

That is a tough one because Nemeth is obviously more NA ice tested at this point. If they sign a righty like Fayne maybe that means Nemeth is the more likely of the two.

 

[glovesave_35]

I could be wrong but I get the feeling that Klingberg is going to be short tracked to the NHL. He brings so many skills and attributes to the table that we desperately lack, but more importantly I don't think Nill is necessarily the kind of guy who has to put every prospect through the paces in the AHL. Klingberg has been playing at a high level in Sweden this year and I think he could very well be on the opening roster next season if he has a strong camp.

I think for him it comes down to how well the player can adjust to the new rink dimensions/physicality at the NHL level rather than the AHL.

 

[BigG44]

I could be wrong but I get the feeling that Klingberg is going to be short tracked to the NHL. He brings so many skills and attributes to the table that we desperately lack, but more importantly I don't think Nill is necessarily the kind of guy who has to put every prospect through the paces in the AHL. Klingberg has been playing at a high level in Sweden this year and I think he could very well be on the opening roster next season if he has a strong camp.

I think for him it comes down to how well the player can adjust to the new rink dimensions/physicality at the NHL level rather than the AHL.

Heika and Bob Sturm have recently indicated the front office is very high on the guy.

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

Heika and Bob Sturm have recently indicated the front office is very high on the guy.

Nill went out of his way to mention him yesterday.

 

[BigG44]

Nill went out of his way to mention him yesterday.

We've seen young Swede defenders have immediate success before on other teams so it'll be interesting to see how a #1 D on one of the top teams in the SHL translates to the NHL potentially right away.

If they're overly cautious with him like they've been with Connauton, it could be an underwhelming year for him. John probably needs a sink or swim scenario rather than dip my toe in and play limited minutes with no PP time.

 

[FrailSwan]

The problem is the current defense lacks both sides of the spectrum. We need Klingberg's offensive mind and right shot, but we also need Nemeth's size and hard-minded defensive ability. I agree, there's a good chance Klingberg gets fast tracked to the NHL. But Nemeth has also played pro hockey for a pretty long time now and done well. Perhaps we'll see Rome out in any fashion, and then Daley traded making room for both. Idk. I'd honestly just prefer to see both of them.

 

[oconnor9sean]

The problem is the current defense lacks both sides of the spectrum. We need Klingberg's offensive mind and right shot, but we also need Nemeth's size and hard-minded defensive ability. I agree, there's a good chance Klingberg gets fast tracked to the NHL. But Nemeth has also played pro hockey for a pretty long time now and done well. Perhaps we'll see Rome out in any fashion, and then Daley traded making room for both. Idk. I'd honestly just prefer to see both of them.

So Rome bought out or sent to Austin

One of Daley/Goligoski traded (we'll say Daley in this example)

Leaves us with:

Goligoski, Dillon, Benn, Gonchar, Connauton, Nemeth, Klingberg

If that's the case, I wouldnt mind suggesting Sergei to go to russia

 

[FrailSwan]

So Rome bought out or sent to Austin

One of Daley/Goligoski traded (we'll say Daley in this example)

Leaves us with:

Goligoski, Dillon, Benn, Gonchar, Connauton, Nemeth, Klingberg

If that's the case, I wouldnt mind suggesting Sergei to go to russia

I like it. It gives you 2 good defensive players to anchor the liabilities.

(no sides in order)
Klingberg - Dillon
Goligoski - Nemeth
Benn - Gonchar/Connauton

I put Nemeth with Goligoski so that you don't have a straight up rookie line of Nemeth and Klingberg. And let's be honest, that could really be a 1a 1b situation. The third line would still be a bit of a liability but you hope they'd be able to hold their own most of the time. Connauton being the possible scratch because I think the organizxation is set on Jordie.

It looks pretty inexperienced but you have to move forward with the youth at some point.

 

[Cin]

So Rome bought out or sent to Austin

One of Daley/Goligoski traded (we'll say Daley in this example)

Leaves us with:

Goligoski, Dillon, Benn, Gonchar, Connauton, Nemeth, Klingberg

If that's the case, I wouldnt mind suggesting Sergei to go to russia

I don't think Klingberg has a fast track to the NHL. He'll need to move through the A to transition to the smaller ice and faster decision making.

That being said all of those guys bolded provide basically the exact same thing. Mediocre puck movement and small bodies.

Gonchar is the one guy I'd want to throw a bone to for one more season. He's shown some flashes of brilliance these past couple of months, and his patience for western forechecking is starting to blossom slowly.

Buyout Goligoski, trade Daley, then bring in a shutdown guy who will actually clear a crease.

UFA-Dillon
Connauton-Gonchar
Nemeth-Oleksiak/UFA shutdown guy
Benn

This defense has to add some serious size. The skill is there in Connauton and Gonchar, so now we need to give them the back end protection they need to blossom under Ruff. Oleksiak and Nemeth have shown they have superb chemistry, and dealing with the kinks that could bring gives Jordie games to get in as well.

 

[Klockis]

Klingberg has been a top D in a league that is maybe better than the AHL, expecting him making the Stars next season is very possible.

 

[Cin]

Hope they ship out some of our already smaller defenseman then.

 

[Starry Knight]

Goligoski, for all his faults, still holds a lot of value. You'd be surprised what he would return in a trade.

 

[glovesave_35]

I don't think Klingberg has a fast track to the NHL. He'll need to move through the A to transition to the smaller ice and faster decision making.

That being said all of those guys bolded provide basically the exact same thing. Mediocre puck movement and small bodies.

It's too early to say how good of a puck moving defenseman Klingberg is. He's certainly one of the better ones in Sweden.

Also, there is zero chance Goligoski gets bought out. Traded, maybe. Not a chance in hell management pays him to go away.

 

[Satan]

Goligoski, for all his faults, still holds a lot of value. You'd be surprised what he would return in a trade.

James Neal + Matt Niskanen?

 

[Starry Knight]

James Neal + Matt Niskanen?

Don't make me cry...

 

[FrailSwan]

Don't make me cry...

 

[Rune Forumwalker]

The problem is the current defense lacks both sides of the spectrum. We need Klingberg's offensive mind and right shot, but we also need Nemeth's size and hard-minded defensive ability. I agree, there's a good chance Klingberg gets fast tracked to the NHL. But Nemeth has also played pro hockey for a pretty long time now and done well. Perhaps we'll see Rome out in any fashion, and then Daley traded making room for both. Idk. I'd honestly just prefer to see both of them.

I'd say it's more so the defensive side that the defense core lacks.

 

[piqued]

I'm not sure how to find the stat now without manually adding everything up, but I saw on an opposing broadcast that the Stars had one of the lowest scoring D corps in the NHL. They lack everything.

 

[Cin]

If Goligoski has value he would've been dealt already. I'm not sipping the FSSW kool-aid anymore.

No GM in their right mind would honestly look at his play over the past couple of seasons and think "Hey, I sure would like to add what this guy brings to my team!" Or if they do, it's for a 7th + 50% salary retained.

The guy will NEVER blossom in Dallas, and is the greatest case for change of scenery I've ever seen. Can't trade him, don't want to play, so buy his ass out.

If Gags and Nill are actually serious about improving the team, then a buyout is an incredibly attractive option for somebody that bad. They've got two that they can use. Suffer with the product on ice and ticket sales, or gain some cap space and pay a ****** player off?