One of the best sports surgeons in the world, Sakari Orava, was the mentor for Lasse Lempainen who did the operationHe flew to Finland for the surgery? Seems....odd.
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One of the best sports surgeons in the world, Sakari Orava, was the mentor for Lasse Lempainen who did the operationHe flew to Finland for the surgery? Seems....odd.
I wonder if he takes a 1y deal next season with us
Yes. As the bonus option for 1 year contract is now there, that's a sensible kind of contract.i would be on it. he likely isnt ready between October and January. 1 year 1 million deal with about 3 million in bonuses should do just fine.
On a guy who had an achilles tear, then played 4 games, and tore it again? Possibly, but....Yes. As the bonus option for 1 year contract is now there, that's a sensible kind of contract.
He will be UFA, though, so we can get outbid.
He flew to Finland for the surgery? Seems....odd.He flew to Finland for the surgery? Seems....odd.
Groin surgery? I would hope nothing was lost in surgery, myself.
I have a feeling he doesn't even bother testing the market and signs a 1 year deal here for cheap to build his value back up following the injuries.Yes. As the bonus option for 1 year contract is now there, that's a sensible kind of contract.
He will be UFA, though, so we can get outbid.
We could be. I don’t see it with his family already moved and he is a big family guy. Also I doubt many teams give him a lot in guaranteed money anywaysYes. As the bonus option for 1 year contract is now there, that's a sensible kind of contract.
He will be UFA, though, so we can get outbid.
Honestly he probably doesn't even get a contract until he's healed up. I think he more likely does a JWilly 2.0, he'll be someone's early playoff UFA...that is assuming he doesn't retire at the end of the year and risk a 3rd reinjury which could be devastating to even his daily quality of lifeI have a feeling he doesn't even bother testing the market and signs a 1 year deal here for cheap to build his value back up following the injuries.
I could honestly see him doing something like a 1 year $1.5m contract here just to prove he can make it through a season. I highly doubt he's going to get any high dollar contract or anything with any kind of term beyond a season.I have a feeling he doesn't even bother testing the market and signs a 1 year deal here for cheap to build his value back up following the injuries.
This crossed my mind too but I think he'll rehab with the team and if he's ready participate in some of the training camp stuff (very limited and slowly being brought back up to speed, but still within the team structure).Honestly he probably doesn't even get a contract until he's healed up. I think he more likely does a JWilly 2.0, he'll be someone's early playoff UFA...that is assuming he doesn't retire at the end of the year and risk a 3rd reinjury which could be devastating to even his daily quality of life
Sir, this is the Canes.On a guy who had an achilles tear, then played 4 games, and tore it again? Possibly, but....
"The first NHL player straight out of the rink", is how Lempainen put it. They have been consulted before from NHL and NBA, and one Chicago Blackhawk would have come for surgery but Hawks required the operation be made in US in a hospital of their choice.He flew to Finland for the surgery? Seems....odd.
Lets say it takes him 10-11 months to be 100% I think he signs a show-me deal with the Canes and he'll be ready for early-mid November start. I really like the guy and player. I hope he comes back.A couple of interesting comments from the Dr.
"LEMPAINEN says that rehabilitation is monitored in stages. I told him that at least 8-9 months is the time for him to be fit to play. It's a different thing to play baseball after six months than to be in an NHL bowl.
Lempainen emphasizes that Pacioretty's case was different now. It was a recurrence of the same injury and the first surgery may not have been successful enough."
Much longer timeline than the first injury. Because that's what it should take? Or because the recurrence made it worse? or both?
A couple of interesting comments from the Dr.
"LEMPAINEN says that rehabilitation is monitored in stages. I told him that at least 8-9 months is the time for him to be fit to play. It's a different thing to play baseball after six months than to be in an NHL bowl.
Lempainen emphasizes that Pacioretty's case was different now. It was a recurrence of the same injury and the first surgery may not have been successful enough."
Much longer timeline than the first injury. Because that's what it should take? Or because the recurrence made it worse? or both?
Could be that the operation was performed somehow differently? The incisions could have been made from a different spot than the last time, necessitating more healing time?Much longer timeline than the first injury. Because that's what it should take? Or because the recurrence made it worse? or both?
This would be my guess. I think the interview Patches did he stated they went with the less invasive surgery the first time so the recovery time would be shorter. So likely this one would be the more traditional surgery with the longer recovery time plus the second surgery in such a short time probably adds to it.Could be that the operation was performed somehow differently? The incisions could have been made from a different spot than the last time, necessitating more healing time?
I would assume that the expertise that brings the top athletes to Orava's gang time and again is very much about what is the best way to perform the operation.
Besides, choices are probably made on whether the recovery will be four months or up to eight months, with the team having a lot to say about it. At the first time, at least. Maybe the player get a little bit more say on the second time. And subject obviously to the player's contract situation.
Lol, the assumption actually got confirmed in another article: "the long recovery is due to renewed rupture and the different operating technique".This would be my guess. I think the interview Patches did he stated they went with the less invasive surgery the first time so the recovery time would be shorter. So likely this one would be the more traditional surgery with the longer recovery time plus the second surgery in such a short time probably adds to it.
Well, he would have done it last summer too but management and owner wanted him operated in NA. There are athletes from all over the world flying to this surgent for operations. FC Barcelona, Juventus, SA teams etc. want him to operate their players. He has a record for succeeding in operations that has been done poorly prior. It`s actually quite odd that not a single NHLer has flewn here before as much bigger sports have their stars making tens of millions/yr do it.He flew to Finland for the surgery? Seems....odd.
To be fair, what we see as big money, FIFA, EPL, BL, LL, etc see as chump change. A player like Messi is worth a LOT more than even the most S tier NHL'er in terms of revenue.Well, he would have done it last summer too but management and owner wanted him operated in NA. There are athletes from all over the world flying to this surgent for operations. FC Barcelona, Juventus, SA teams etc. want him to operate their players. He has a record for succeeding in operations that has been done poorly prior. It`s actually quite odd that not a single NHLer has flewn here before as much bigger sports have their stars making tens of millions/yr do it.
His teacher was Sakari Orava - world known sports-surgeon who operated Messi, Beckham, Deschamps, Guardiola etc. He even operated Serbias president.
That`s why its quite odd that players with their career on the line dont demand the best surgeon`s they can get. Pacioretty was threated by the same team and same hospital as Messi etc. by Messi`s surgeons former apprentice, who is probably the best sports-surgeon in the world in achilles- or groin-issues. Lempäinen also stated that after an operation like this the recovery time should be atleast 8-9 months, so seem like the NA-doctors let Pacioretty start skating/playing a bit early?To be fair, what we see as big money, FIFA, EPL, BL, LL, etc see as chump change. A player like Messi is worth a LOT more than even the most S tier NHL'er in terms of revenue.
That`s why its quite odd that players with their career on the line dont demand the best surgeon`s they can get. Pacioretty was threated by the same team and same hospital as Messi etc. by Messi`s surgeons former apprentice, who is probably the best sports-surgeon in the world in achilles- or groin-issues. Lempäinen also stated that after an operation like this the recovery time should be atleast 8-9 months, so seem like the NA-doctors let Pacioretty start skating/playing a bit early?
Yep, his previous recovery was actually on the longer end of average for an achilles. Talk of him rushing back is just silly. With the re-tear, they're gonna go way above and beyond.He's referring to the current re-tear. Lempo posted this quote above:
"the long recovery is due to renewed rupture and the different operating technique".