Out of Town Scoreboard 2017-18 season III: Stanley Cup Playoffs

[Bleedred]

That would be nice. And also get rid of that mandatory 1 week of for all teams at different times. Should just give everyone and extended break at the same time at certain points. Like maybe give the players more time off for christmas or somethin

I’ll go with that. I don’t like the bye week either.

 

[glenwo2]

One last parting shot at the Bolts that I found on the main board :

Anyway, I am looking forward to the Awards show, too.

I want to know if Taylor Hall of Fame won the Hart!!

 

[MadDevil]

How long will Vegas have had off before this series starts? It feels like they advanced two weeks ago.

 

[Devils Dominion]

No game tonight? ?

 

[Darkauron]

No game tonight? ?

Nope. It is pretty dumb. It should have started tonight. Not til monday tho.

 

[R8Devs]

they're not going to put SCF games on the same day as NBA games

 

[Bleedred]

f*** the NBA. It’s so stagnating.

So excited for Cavs vs Warriors 4.0

I’d rather electrocute myself than see the same two teams four years in a row in the finals in any sport. The NBA deserves to lose ratings over their badly stagnating and repetitive product. Hope both those teams lose their series and it’s Boston vs Houston. I’d settle for one of them losing though. I can dig one of the same teams over and over, but not the same two.

 

[NJDevs26]

they're not going to put SCF games on the same day as NBA games

They're stuck with it Monday now that Golden State and Houston are playing Game 7 on the same night. So waiting got them zilch. Their 'first' Finals game, after days and days of having people forget about the NHL is going to be the same night as a Game 7 when it could have just been on the same night as a noncompetitive Game 6.

 

[R8Devs]

They're stuck with it Monday now that Golden State and Houston are playing Game 7 on the same night. So waiting got them zilch. Their 'first' Finals game, after days and days of having people forget about the NHL is going to be the same night as a Game 7 when it could have just been on the same night as a noncompetitive Game 6.

I mean then they would have had 2 games competing with the NBA if they did it like that. Now it's only 1.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The big question mark for Vegas next year is what happens to all the guys having career years.

Did they all suddenly find a new level, or do they just have some flukes going on? Some of the jumps from last year’s stats on other teams and this year on Vegas are pretty crazy.

 

[devilsblood]

The big question mark for Vegas next year is what happens to all the guys having career years.

Did they all suddenly find a new level, or do they just have some flukes going on? Some of the jumps from last year’s stats on other teams and this year on Vegas are pretty crazy.

We were talking about this a bit in the Yegor thread. And one thought is that Vegas simply gave an oppurtunity to players who were not otherwise able to get one, and those players flourished.

I think there is very much something to that, but it is more complex, not only did they provide oppurtunity, but they put together a pretty good collection of talent, and it came with no pressure, no hierarchy, a clean slate for all these guys, and then the excitement of the city and the fans helping push them fwd. I think Vegas this year was a very fertile environment.

At least to an extent I think these guys have gotten a foot hold onto to these new levels of play. Karlsson may not go 40-30-70 next year, but he is def not going to go 6-19-25 either.

However next year there will be pressure. Next year the excitement of a fresh start will not be the same. Plus there will be more of a book on these guys.

I find the whole thing very interesting, not only in terms of this specific Vegas team, but also how that environment enabled so many guys to succeed, and if other teams can use that to help their own players succeed.

Next year will be rather interesting as well.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I don’t think you can discard the motivating factor of being a castoff either. I am not sure all of these guys would have put up these numbers on their old teams even if they were given a bigger opportunity.

Sure some would have. Like it isn’t a surprise to see Theodore’s numbers jump.

What would concern me is just the large volume of guys seemingly overachieving. If they all drop off towards the mean, even a little bit, you would see a pretty large drop in results. All those lost points add up if you spread it across the whole team.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Feels like the season is over

 

[glenwo2]

Feels like the season is over

Yeah.....and now I have to suffer watching my Mets be Mediocre all season long(like normal).

 

[bobilly45]

Yeah.....and now I have to suffer watching my Mets be Mediocre all season long(like normal).

Mediocre is a stretch..... gonna be a long season.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

**** the NBA. It’s so stagnating.

So excited for Cavs vs Warriors 4.0

I’d rather electrocute myself than see the same two teams four years in a row in the finals in any sport. The NBA deserves to lose ratings over their badly stagnating and repetitive product. Hope both those teams lose their series and it’s Boston vs Houston. I’d settle for one of them losing though. I can dig one of the same teams over and over, but not the same two.

Can’t ****ing stand the NBA. I really just don’t understand the appeal.

It’s the same **** over and over and over... and, to your point, and over one more time, if we get the same Finals matchup again this year. You know who’s going to win before the season even starts. The players are punks. I just find it so toxic.

 

[Darkauron]

Can’t ****ing stand the NBA. I really just don’t understand the appeal.

It’s the same **** over and over and over... and, to your point, and over one more time, if we get the same Finals matchup again this year. You know who’s going to win before the season even starts. The players are punks. I just find it so toxic.

It is pretty garbage. Literally the most boring and worst out of all of the big sports imo.

 

[devilsblood]

I don’t think you can discard the motivating factor of being a castoff either. I am not sure all of these guys would have put up these numbers on their old teams even if they were given a bigger opportunity.

1)Ya, I've been rolling with the oppurtunity factor and how that can inspire a player, but the chip on the shoulder factor is definitely a thing as well. And that speaks to how players need to be handled differently

2)I seriously doubt these guys would have put up similar #'s on their old teams. A guy like Karlsson, I think was in a rut in Columbus, and that was as much within himself as it was a team dynamic thing. The change of scenery factor.

 

[devilsblood]

I don't hate the NBA, and I don't hate that it's the same teams in the finals, in fact I loved it back in the day when it was Celt's Lakers.

But the game has gotten so isolation and 3 pt heavy.

Similarly baseball having gotten so homerun/strikeout heavy has been a turnoff.

And to an extent the NFL having gotten so offense/pass heavy.

All about that puck.

 

[R8Devs]

since 2009 the NBA has had 6 different championship winners. same timeframe the NHL has had 4. also they have game 7's in both conferences this year. it's not uncompetitive by any means this year.

weirdest thing about some NHL fans is how offended they get by the NBA for no reason. no one's forcing you to watch it. if you don't like it just ignore it

 

[johnny pierogi]

It's not that it's just the same winner, it's that it's the same matchup. The Kings/Hawks/Pens may have won multiple times (with only the Pens going back to back) but they didn't face the same oponent. The argument isn't really as straightforward as you're making it out to be.

Also, until this round the basketball has not been interesting.

 

[Bleedred]

Can’t ****ing stand the NBA. I really just don’t understand the appeal.

It’s the same **** over and over and over... and, to your point, and over one more time, if we get the same Finals matchup again this year. You know who’s going to win before the season even starts. The players are punks. I just find it so toxic.

I don't really have a problem with the sport or the players so much (although I don't watch it and really haven't since the mid 90's), I just hate the stagnant product. It's so stagnant, they SHOULD be rigging that problem. Is it really good for casual fans to watch the same two teams in the finals for (a strong possibility) 4 years in a row?

We're quite possibly FOUR years in a row of the same two teams in the finals.

Can you imagine the Penguins vs the Blackhawks for even 3 years in a row? Not just one of them in the finals, but BOTH in the finals for 3 years in a row? And now it's potentially 4 years in a row that this is gonna be the same NBA Finals. Outside the Detroit and Pittsburgh back to back years, I can't think of the last time we had the same two teams in the finals multiple years in a row in the NHL. There was a time where Detroit, Colorado and us were the cup winner all but one year between 1995 and 2004 and since 2009 the Penguins, Blackhawks and Kings have won a combined 8 cups , but I've never seen anything like what's potentially going on in the NBA.

since 2009 the NBA has had 6 different championship winners. same timeframe the NHL has had 4. also they have game 7's in both conferences this year. it's not uncompetitive by any means this year.

That's all good and fine if we're using the last decade, but in a more recent trend, it's the same NBA finals 3 years in a row and potentially 4. Like I said, I can't remember that happening in any other sport. There's times where the Cowboys or the Patriots are winning a bunch of super bowls in a short period of time or the Yankees winning like I forgot how many world series/appearing in the world series however many times in a decade span. Yeah, we've had 3 teams combine for 8 cups in the last decade, but this current NBA scenario would be like if we saw Red Wings vs Penguins 3-4 years in a row in the SCF or Blackhawks vs Penguins in the SCF 3-4 years in a row. Or the Pens, Blackhawks and Kings all playing the same team every time they've won their recent cups.

 

[R8Devs]

It's not that it's just the same winner, it's that it's the same matchup. The Kings/Hawks/Pens may have won multiple times (with only the Pens going back to back) but they didn't face the same oponent. The argument isn't really as straightforward as you're making it out to be.

Also, until this round the basketball has not been interesting.

I mean it's all good and fine but the end result is what it is. It's not like the Cavs and the Warriors are really the same teams in terms of personnel since the first time they met. So if you wanna expand into specifics you could probably look into that too.

Anyway I digress, I just don't see how anyone can really logically have so much hate for another league they don't watch lol. But I guess people are getting angsty because it's been a long time since Vegas/Capitals have played

 

[NJDevs26]

The thing is the NBA lends itself to superteams because it only takes two or three stars to build one, whereas it's near impossible for even a couple of great players to carry a team alone in the NHL. LeBron himself is one game away from being in his EIGHTH STRAIGHT NBA Finals. That just can't happen in the NHL. Plus the soft as Charmin cap in the NBA pales in comparison to the hard cap in the NHL. And upsets are rarer in every round in the NBA compared to the NHL, usually the talent disparity bears out. That lends itself to be more boring to the casual fan but the NBA still dwarfs the NHL in ratings. People like stars and superteams more than parity.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The thing is the NBA lends itself to superteams because it only takes two or three stars to build one, whereas it's near impossible for even a couple of great players to carry a team alone in the NHL. LeBron himself is one game away from being in his EIGHTH STRAIGHT NBA Finals. That just can't happen in the NHL. Plus the soft as Charmin cap in the NBA pales in comparison to the hard cap in the NHL. And upsets are rarer in every round in the NBA compared to the NHL, usually the talent disparity bears out. That lends itself to be more boring to the casual fan but the NBA still dwarfs the NHL in ratings. People like stars and superteams more than parity.

Because people still like to watch the super teams play because they are overloaded with talent. People complain, but Warriors/Cavs will pull in really good ratings again.

There is nothing wrong with the NHL’s level of parity though, and I wouldn’t trade it away to be honest.