Speculation: O'Reilly Mega Thread - ALL ROR Speculation Here

[Not Sure]

Hypothetically:

If Montreal win the lottery, Mete becomes much more expendable imo.

If we can get another 1st from the Pacioretty trade. Let’s assume 15 ovr, does Mete and that pick do it? Maybe with Mccarron or similar prospect added?

I’m thinking Pacioretty is going to Florida btw, just my gut

If Montreal wins the lotto and decides to go after ROR to fix their center position, I fully expect that top 3 pick coming back. Just look at who is making the trade. Dahlin is of course out of the question, but if Buffalo could draft twice in the top 4 and gets back a good defensive prospect I'm all for helping a division rival with a 1c.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

Faulk for O'Reilly. Straight 1 for 1. No questions asked!

Absolutely, not. His value is at an all time low and to be honest, he's the fourth best option on your roster.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Absolutely, not. His value is at an all time low and to be honest, he's the fourth best option on your roster.

What do you mean by "4th best"?

 

[bluedevil58]

What do you mean by "4th best"?

He means Slavin, Pesce, and Hanifin.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

He means Slavin, Pesce, and Hanifin.

I'm looking for him to respond.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

I'm looking for him to respond.

It was a fairly straightforward answer. Did you need much more?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

It was a fairly straightforward answer. Did you need much more?

So you are saying he's 4th best option among defensemen for Carolina? Just want to be sure I'm not mis-reading you.

 

[Bigboi123]

Jeff Skinner
2019 1st round pick (CAR)
2019 2nd round pick (CAR)
2020 1st round pick (CAR)
2020 2nd round pick (CAR)



Ryan O'Reilly
Johan Larsson
Jake McCabe

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Jeff Skinner
2019 1st round pick (CAR)
2019 2nd round pick (CAR)
2020 1st round pick (CAR)
2020 2nd round pick (CAR)



Ryan O'Reilly
Johan Larsson
Jake McCabe

No, just no.

 

[Bigboi123]

No, just no.

Keep slogging away with Rask & Staal as your top 2 options. I'm sure Peters or whatever warm body is the HC next season will be able to ice a competitive lineup with those two options.

 

[Shwabeal]

Jeff Skinner
2019 1st round pick (CAR)
2019 2nd round pick (CAR)
2020 1st round pick (CAR)
2020 2nd round pick (CAR)



Ryan O'Reilly
Johan Larsson
Jake McCabe

That's terrible for Carolina

Edit: And to top it off you give him the "oh, you don't like my proposal? I'll just dump on your team."

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Keep slogging away with Rask & Staal as your top 2 options. I'm sure Peters or whatever warm body is the HC next season will be able to ice a competitive lineup with those two options.

Because "slogging away with Rask and Staal" means the only option is a terrible trade. Yeah, that's the way it works.

 

[AvsGuy]

How has Zadorov been playing for the Avs.....honest assessment (not the HF board buildup my team's players one ). What defensive pairing do you see him maxing out at.

Factor in my Avalanche bias, but Zadorov reminds me a ton of Chris Pronger - his size, his ability to use his reach to protect the puck, his massive hits, his smooth skating - if he can continue to iron out the boneheaded plays and defensive misreads (which he got better at as the season went on) and continue asserting his offense (which he also did as the season went on) then he is absolutely on the cusp of being a top pairing guy. I’d say he already is. And his playing style just gets more fun to watch all the time, he really can change the flow of a game with his physical presence.

 

[EastonBlues22]

If the Blues can't land Tavares perhaps they'll be looking at ROR ?

They certainly have the assets to get it done and ROR would fit in age-wise with the rest of their core.

Pretty good replacement for Stastny and they love their 2-way guys.

They might have interest, but it's tough to find a deal that Buffalo would accept that wouldn't open a gaping hole elsewhere in the Blues current lineup. Some GMs would do a trade like that anyway just to get a guy they covet or because they think the "value" is there, but that's never really been Armstrong's MO.

Armstrong is stubborn and Buffalo has zero internal motivation to move ROR, so I'd be very surprised if a deal materialized that moved ROR to the Blues.

 

[Chan790]

Keep slogging away with Rask & Staal as your top 2 options. I'm sure Peters or whatever warm body is the HC next season will be able to ice a competitive lineup with those two options.

...and what precisely does that have to do with throwing in multiple high picks for questionable "value added" in the form of guys we neither want, nor have any use for?

 

[CatsforReinhart]

I wouldn't be opposed to an O'Reilly for Hanifan + 2nd (hypothetical) ......I also would be alright with keeping O'Reilly. So it must be close value. I think a lot depends on how the draft lottery plays out for us.

ROR + B Prospect + Buffalo 32OA

For

Hanafin + Carolina 11OA(After Lottery set)

I think it is a fair deal for a B prospect if you like Bailey/Fasching/Baptiste or McCabe

Carolina can still get a 1st round player who drops out of the 1st round and ROR is definitely worth more than Hanifin so trading 21 spots in the draft makes up for the difference.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

ROR

for

Eriksson + Tanev + 1st Round Pick

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

ROR + B Prospect + Buffalo 32OA

For

Hanafin + Carolina 11OA(After Lottery set)

I think it is a fair deal for a B prospect if you like Bailey/Fasching/Baptiste or McCabe

Carolina can still get a 1st round player who drops out of the 1st round and ROR is definitely worth more than Hanifin so trading 21 spots in the draft makes up for the difference.

You'll probably get a lot of differing opinions on this from Canes fans, but this is the type of deal I could see the Canes doing. The "B prospect" has little to no value though as the Canes system is very full of B/B+ prospects. I say this knowing very little about those players, just going off of your description of them being a "B prospect".

 

[CatsforReinhart]

You'll probably get a lot of differing opinions on this from Canes fans, but this is the type of deal I could see the Canes doing. The "B prospect" has little to no value though as the Canes system is very full of B/B+ prospects. I say this knowing very little about those players, just going off of your description of them being a "B prospect".

Just take out the B Prospect

ROR + 32nd

for

Hanifin + 11 OA

Being a sabres fan its tough to move on from ROR but getting Hanifin and moving up 21 spots is solid.

Carolina is stacked on defense and could afford to lose Hanifin for ROR and still have talent in the pipeline. moving up 21 spots makes the difference in value for ROR and Hanifin. I think it is a win win for both teams

 

[Colt55]

I've been thinking of a more constructive trade from St Louis as Parayko for ROR really doesn't make sense given the holes it creates. I'm thinking this at least mends the holes created. This also gives Toronto another NHL ready RH defenseman with some offense to their game.

ROR, Zaitsev, Nielsen
for
Parayko, Sobotka, Schmaltz

No thanks. Rather keep parayko

 

[Colt55]

I'd do the SABRES equivalent

ROR + Bogosian + Borgen
for
Parayko + Sobotka + Schmaltz

Once again no thank you. Rather keep parayko.

 

[GoldiFox]

Just take out the B Prospect

ROR + 32nd

for

Hanifin + 11 OA

Being a sabres fan its tough to move on from ROR but getting Hanifin and moving up 21 spots is solid.

Carolina is stacked on defense and could afford to lose Hanifin for ROR and still have talent in the pipeline. moving up 21 spots makes the difference in value for ROR and Hanifin. I think it is a win win for both teams

Nope. Take out the #11 pick and add the Canes 2nd. ROR doesn’t pull Hanifin PLUS a #10 pick. The difference between Stepan (who got a top-10 pick) and ROR isn’t Hanifin.

ROR
For
Hanifin + #42 Overall

 

[Benstheman]

If Montreal wins the lotto and decides to go after ROR to fix their center position, I fully expect that top 3 pick coming back. Just look at who is making the trade. Dahlin is of course out of the question, but if Buffalo could draft twice in the top 4 and gets back a good defensive prospect I'm all for helping a division rival with a 1c.

In your dreams

 

[Chan790]

You'll probably get a lot of differing opinions on this from Canes fans, but this is the type of deal I could see the Canes doing. The "B prospect" has little to no value though as the Canes system is very full of B/B+ prospects. I say this knowing very little about those players, just going off of your description of them being a "B prospect".

If I had to make an ROR deal, though I remain totally opposed to acquiring ROR and think anything we trade for him is wasted assets, this is pretty close...

though I'd prefer to either drop the #32 and B spec for a better spec or drop the Canes 1st for a lower value asset in a ROR-only deal.

If the Sabres goal is acquiring Hanifin as opposed to moving ROR, I'd much rather target Mittelstadt as the centerpiece of the return.

 

[GoldiFox]

If I had to make an ROR deal, though I remain totally opposed to acquiring ROR and think anything we trade for him is wasted assets, this is pretty close...

though I'd prefer to either drop the #32 and B spec for a better spec or drop the Canes 1st for a lower value asset in a ROR-only deal.

If the Sabres goal is acquiring Hanifin as opposed to moving ROR, I'd much rather target Mittelstadt as the centerpiece of the return.

The Canes greatest asset this offseason. will be the $25 million in Cap they have. They are much better off trying to trade Faulk, Skinner, Lindholm, etc. and replace them with UFAs while keeping young potential studs like Hanifin. Faulk or Skinner can be replaced by Mike Green and JVR. Hanifin’s #1D potential is nearly impossible to replace outside of the Draft.