Prospect Info: Olli Juolevi

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Respectable point totals. Here's hoping to a good playoff - interested to see what he can do in North America next year. With the Canucks currently set to bring back every single member of their existing D corps (LOL) Juolevi will certainly have to earn any shot he gets with the big club.

 

[iceburg]

Respectable point totals. Here's hoping to a good playoff - interested to see what he can do in North America next year. With the Canucks currently set to bring back every single member of their existing D corps (LOL) Juolevi will certainly have to earn any shot he gets with the big club.

I expect one of Hutton or Del Zotto to get traded this summer.

 

[manroth19]

I expect one of Hutton or Del Zotto to get traded this summer.

Hopefully both

 

[theoriginalBCF]

Respectable point totals. Here's hoping to a good playoff - interested to see what he can do in North America next year. With the Canucks currently set to bring back every single member of their existing D corps (LOL) Juolevi will certainly have to earn any shot he gets with the big club.

I think his Challenge is going to be to come in and be hungry, consistent. It seems the word on the street about him is he is very casual in his approach tom the game.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Respectable point totals. Here's hoping to a good playoff - interested to see what he can do in North America next year. With the Canucks currently set to bring back every single member of their existing D corps (LOL) Juolevi will certainly have to earn any shot he gets with the big club.

Personally I want him to play a season in the ahl just to improve his competitiveness, but you know this management group wants to sell tickets so....
Also I’m going to bet that Juolevi will have a good playoffs. He always shows up when it matters the most

 

[NuxFan09]

Personally I want him to play a season in the ahl just to improve his competitiveness, but you know this management group wants to sell tickets so....
Also I’m going to bet that Juolevi will have a good playoffs. He always shows up when it matters the most

Me too. Juolevi isn't the calibre of prospect that you put in the NHL right away without question. He will take time. We don't need him in the NHL. Let him hone his craft in Utica. The Canucks did it with Virtanen.

 

[M2Beezy]

In his defense Juolevi has preformed better in playoffs and big tournys so HOPEFULLY he has a nother good showing

Ahhh Juolevi the prospect based completely off of hope

 

[rune74]

In his defense Juolevi has preformed better in playoffs and big tournys so HOPEFULLY he has a nother good showing

Ahhh Juolevi the prospect based completely off of hope

You do know, if people are talking about stats and his play then it isn't based off of hope right? It literally is the opposite.

 

[F A N]

I expect one of Hutton or Del Zotto to get traded this summer.

Hopefully Del Zotto, but I have a feeling it's going to be Hutton if it's one or the other.

 

[iceburg]

Hopefully Del Zotto, but I have a feeling it's going to be Hutton if it's one or the other.

As has been said many times here, they are full of bottom pairing and 7/8 D-men - aside from Tanev and Edler. Hopefully they know after this season that the D-core has to get better. My sense is they want to see if Pouliot can make a next step in his play - I'm not making a comment on whether or not he can make the next step, just that I believe it's part of their plan. Stecher is a valuable asset who is probably a bottom pairing D-man but who can fill in on the top-4 when needed. They just extended Gudbranson and Biega.

So that leaves Hutton and Del Zotto, one of which has to go if they are going to make room for Juolevi. Like you I'm hoping it's Del Zotto but I have a feeling it will be Hutton. It will depend on what's offered. Del Zotto is a known entity around the league. He could be a good depth guy for a team already having a locked in top-4 but looking for some injury insurance. It's less clear what Hutton would return. If it was two years ago, it would have been quite a bit. I suspect his play this year and being two years older will hurt the return. Teams will wonder if he can get back on his early trajectory or is this what he is?

 

[RobertKron]

As has been said many times here, they are full of bottom pairing and 7/8 D-men - aside from Tanev and Edler. Hopefully they know after this season that the D-core has to get better. My sense is they want to see if Pouliot can make a next step in his play - I'm not making a comment on whether or not he can make the next step, just that I believe it's part of their plan. Stecher is a valuable asset who is probably a bottom pairing D-man but who can fill in on the top-4 when needed. They just extended Gudbranson and Biega.

So that leaves Hutton and Del Zotto, one of which has to go if they are going to make room for Juolevi. Like you I'm hoping it's Del Zotto but I have a feeling it will be Hutton. It will depend on what's offered. Del Zotto is a known entity around the league. He could be a good depth guy for a team already having a locked in top-4 but looking for some injury insurance. It's less clear what Hutton would return. If it was two years ago, it would have been quite a bit. I suspect his play this year and being two years older will hurt the return. Teams will wonder if he can get back on his early trajectory or is this what he is?

FWIW, going into the deadline, Benning called the D a position of strength.

 

[iceburg]

FWIW, going into the deadline, Benning called the D a position of strength.

Yeah. Well I guess you could say they have lots of NHL defensemen, just not very good ones.

 

[tantalum]

As has been said many times here, they are full of bottom pairing and 7/8 D-men - aside from Tanev and Edler. Hopefully they know after this season that the D-core has to get better. My sense is they want to see if Pouliot can make a next step in his play - I'm not making a comment on whether or not he can make the next step, just that I believe it's part of their plan. Stecher is a valuable asset who is probably a bottom pairing D-man but who can fill in on the top-4 when needed. They just extended Gudbranson and Biega.

So that leaves Hutton and Del Zotto, one of which has to go if they are going to make room for Juolevi. Like you I'm hoping it's Del Zotto but I have a feeling it will be Hutton. It will depend on what's offered. Del Zotto is a known entity around the league. He could be a good depth guy for a team already having a locked in top-4 but looking for some injury insurance. It's less clear what Hutton would return. If it was two years ago, it would have been quite a bit. I suspect his play this year and being two years older will hurt the return. Teams will wonder if he can get back on his early trajectory or is this what he is?

Really is amazing to me that one of the worst bluelines in the league is looking to have 7 of the top 8 guys returning next season and the only reason the 8th would be going anywhere is to make room for Juolevi.

Let that sink in...a terrible blueline has all 8 "regulars" signed or RFA through next season (i.e. will be signed). To me there is little doubt management sees this as a viable blueline.

Anyways, I think it's pretty clear that despite what the numbers may say, the guy who will be moved is Hutton.

 

[iceburg]

Really is amazing to me that one of the worst bluelines in the league is looking to have 7 of the top 8 guys returning next season and the only reason the 8th would be going anywhere is to make room for Juolevi.

Let that sink in...a terrible blueline has all 8 "regulars" signed or RFA through next season (i.e. will be signed). To me there is little doubt management sees this as a viable blueline.

Anyways, I think it's pretty clear that despite what the numbers may say, the guy who will be moved is Hutton.

Yup, which is why I suggested in the Roster thread that this blueline needs to look very different starting 20/21 if they are going to be competitive. Now, can these players get better, sure, it's not outside the realm of possibility. But to expect that the current D-core is going to develop into a competitive group is unwise at best. Setting aside Biega and Del Zotto because they are what they will become, Hutton, Pouliot, Gudbranson, and Stecher would need to get subtantially better as a group if they believe it will be competitive. You just can't have two of those guys playing top four minutes at this stage of their careers.

I actually don't think they believe Juolevi will be ready in October. It's consistent with signing Del Zotto to a 2 year deal and extending Gudbranson and Biega. If I were to speculate, I think they will start Juolevi in Utica and bring him up a few times during the year, maybe get him 20 games at the NHL level.

 

[RobertKron]

Yeah. Well I guess you could say they have lots of NHL defensemen, just not very good ones.

If I go to the bank with this 20, I can have a whole shitload of nickels, too.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Really is amazing to me that one of the worst bluelines in the league is looking to have 7 of the top 8 guys returning next season and the only reason the 8th would be going anywhere is to make room for Juolevi.

Let that sink in...a terrible blueline has all 8 "regulars" signed or RFA through next season (i.e. will be signed). To me there is little doubt management sees this as a viable blueline.

Anyways, I think it's pretty clear that despite what the numbers may say, the guy who will be moved is Hutton.

For this reason alone I want Demko as far away from this roster as possible. Unless he has the confidence of Patrick Roy, it won't be good for him mentally to get lit up game after game. Even a vet like Nilsson looks like he was about to lose it last night.
If Joulevi plays in the NHL next season, I pray tbey glue him to Tanev and let him get babysat. Playing beside Gudbranson will ruin him, just look at Hutton

 

[terrible dee]

Yup, which is why I suggested in the Roster thread that this blueline needs to look very different starting 20/21 if they are going to be competitive. Now, can these players get better, sure, it's not outside the realm of possibility. But to expect that the current D-core is going to develop into a competitive group is unwise at best. Setting aside Biega and Del Zotto because they are what they will become, Hutton, Pouliot, Gudbranson, and Stecher would need to get subtantially better as a group if they believe it will be competitive. You just can't have two of those guys playing top four minutes at this stage of their careers.

I actually don't think they believe Juolevi will be ready in October. It's consistent with signing Del Zotto to a 2 year deal and extending Gudbranson and Biega. If I were to speculate, I think they will start Juolevi in Utica and bring him up a few times during the year, maybe get him 20 games at the NHL level.

I agree, all the signs show me that they don't want to be embarrassed again like they were with Virtanen, and with Joulevi's oft-reported "attitude" the chances of that happening, when added to his unbelievably awful play in camp last year, are pretty good.

With Boesser and (They hope..and it's likely) Peterson plus whoever gets picked this year, they are going to want to sweep Joulevi under the rug until they are confident he won't make them look bad

Which he already has,

I VERY much doubt he plays here next year, that "Plan" is the invention of fans

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I doubt he’ll make it because these European teams hate young players
But here’s hoping

 

[bossram]

Me too. Juolevi isn't the calibre of prospect that you put in the NHL right away without question. He will take time. We don't need him in the NHL. Let him hone his craft in Utica. The Canucks did it with Virtanen.

wait a sec there....

 

[me2]

Really is amazing to me that one of the worst bluelines in the league is looking to have 7 of the top 8 guys returning next season and the only reason the 8th would be going anywhere is to make room for Juolevi.

Let that sink in...a terrible blueline has all 8 "regulars" signed or RFA through next season (i.e. will be signed). To me there is little doubt management sees this as a viable blueline.

Anyways, I think it's pretty clear that despite what the numbers may say, the guy who will be moved is Hutton.

Seems to be the teams choice. Interesting that at this point the next two are Tanev and possibly Edler.
mdz gudbranson
Joulevi biega
pouliot ????

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

kindly delete please

 

[Intangibos]

Hopefully Del Zotto, but I have a feeling it's going to be Hutton if it's one or the other.

I'm not as sure anymore. I thought they were benching Hutton because I have no faith in anyone in the organization to recognize his potential, but it seems they're sitting him for conditioning issues. Maybe they actually have hope for him developing so they're giving some tough love.

 

[F A N]

As has been said many times here, they are full of bottom pairing and 7/8 D-men - aside from Tanev and Edler.

Who has said this? I'm pretty sure Hutton and Stecher have been talked about as potential top 4 Dmen. Certainly top 6 calibre. The problem is lack of legitimate top 4 Dmen. Legitimate bottom 2 Dmen (as in #5 and #6) isn't the problem.

 

[M2Beezy]

I doubt he’ll make it because these European teams hate young players
But here’s hoping

Plus hes not that good at ice hockey

 

[ChefBoiRD]

I'm not as sure anymore. I thought they were benching Hutton because I have no faith in anyone in the organization to recognize his potential, but it seems they're sitting him for conditioning issues. Maybe they actually have hope for him developing so they're giving some tough love.

It's the worse kept secret in this city. The team isn't happy with Huttons conditioning and lack of commitment to conditioning