Prospect Info: Olli Juolevi, Pt. VI

[CanaFan]

Now that Virtanens made a bit of progress..good to see peeps pile on Juolevi...Par for the course really.

His play warrants it.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Now that Virtanens made a bit of progress..good to see peeps pile on Juolevi...Par for the course really.

It's almost like playing well gets praise and playing like ass doesn't. Huh.

 

[WTG]

 

[Luck 6]

It's almost like playing well gets praise and playing like ass doesn't. Huh.

That's totally okay. But much like Virtanen, Juolevi was a bit of a project player. It's one thing to say "he played like crap and he clearly isn't NHL ready yet, hopefully next year", but it's another to day "he played like crap and is clearly a bust."

I'm not saying he was the right pick and that people have to be happy with it, but he is our prospect now and the pick has been made. We shouldn't be writing him off after his first ever NHL camp.

 

[Jyrki21]

Welp, that makes it much easier to decide which OHL games to attend this year.

So now I have DiPietro and/or Gadjovich on the menu.

 

[Pip]

That's totally okay. But much like Virtanen, Juolevi was a bit of a project player. It's one thing to say "he played like crap and he clearly isn't NHL ready yet, hopefully next year", but it's another to day "he played like crap and is clearly a bust."

I'm not saying he was the right pick and that people have to be happy with it, but he is our prospect now and the pick has been made. We shouldn't be writing him off after his first ever NHL camp.

I don’t know if Juolevi was really a project player though. He just hasn’t progressed very well thus far.

 

[Canucks LB]

Salo it is, good

 

[Pip]

Has there been any reports as to why this process is taking so long and with such uncertainty? Was it an issue with London or the Finnish team? Or was it just indecisiveness on the part of Canucks management on where to send him. Just seems like something that should have been already planned out.

 

[rune74]

Has there been any reports as to why this process is taking so long and with such uncertainty? Was it an issue with London or the Finnish team? Or was it just indecisiveness on the part of Canucks management on where to send him. Just seems like something that should have been already planned out.

No, it had to do with international rules and the CHL. Not something that was a quick decision.

 

[krutovsdonut]

i think they made the call late last week and it needed chl and nhl approval as well as finding a team to take him and london to consent.

so factoring in the intervening weekend, i think it could be normal delay.

 

[Tim Calhoun]

Was hoping he'd go to his old team Jokerit, who play in the KHL.

 

[Guardian452]

I don’t think the London Knights had any say in the matter. It was likely CHL and IIHF lawyers confirming that the Canucks interpretation of the international transfer rules is correct and then having TPS Turku securing his playing rights.

 

[VanJack]

Hopefully Finland.....if he goes to Europe his contract slides and won't count against the 50 contract slots the Canucks have available....only worry is that he'd be playing the year on the much bigger ice and not sure how that helps him adjust to the smaller NA ice where d-men get hit more and the decisions with the puck have to be a lot quicker.....But assuming that if his season in Finland were to end early, he'd be eligible to report to the Utica Comets?

 

[MS]

I don’t know if Juolevi was really a project player though. He just hasn’t progressed very well thus far.

Yeah, he wasn't even remotely a 'project' draft pick. He was taken top-5 overall because he supposedly had the most developed and mature game of any defender available.

If he ends up in Finland, that's the correct move and the correct place for him to be. Needs to be playing against men at this point and learning to actually compete instead of just getting by on his skill level playing against kids.

 

[rune74]

I thought people said he wasn't that good on the knights? This tweet says it will be a big blow.

 

[Pip]

No, it had to do with international rules and the CHL. Not something that was a quick decision.

It doesn’t seem like an incredibly unique situation though, plus they’ve had the whole summer to plan on where Juolevi was going to play this year.

 

[Pip]

I thought people said he wasn't that good on the knights? This tweet says it will be a big blow.

Being disappointing for a top 5 pick still makes you an important part of their Junior team.

 

[Hit the post]

Being disappointing for a top 5 pick still makes you an important part of their Junior team.

I'm sure the Comets were really disappointed in losing their leading goal scorer in Shinkaruk. Means jack to the Canucks if the later isn't a NHLer.

 

[rune74]

It doesn’t seem like an incredibly unique situation though, plus they’ve had the whole summer to plan on where Juolevi was going to play this year.

Well obviously it was a bit more then we thought right?

https://canucksarmy.com/2017/10/02/olli-juolevi-and-the-23-man-roster/

 

[rune74]

I'm sure the Comets were really disappointed in losing their leading goal scorer in Shinkaruk. Means jack to the Canucks if the later isn't a NHLer.

I am pretty sure Joulevi will be an NHL player one day, book it.

 

[Hit the post]

I am pretty sure Joulevi will be an NHL player one day, book it.

I don't doubt that either. AGAIN, whether he'll be a Bryan Allen or a Dan Hamhuis remains to be seen.

Heck, it looks like Jordan Schroeder MIGHT be an NHLer (certainly putting up a good fight to find a spot *on a playoff team*). Still don't lose any sleep over the Canucks not keeping him.

 

[iFan]

That's totally okay. But much like Virtanen, Juolevi was a bit of a project player. It's one thing to say "he played like crap and he clearly isn't NHL ready yet, hopefully next year", but it's another to day "he played like crap and is clearly a bust."

I'm not saying he was the right pick and that people have to be happy with it, but he is our prospect now and the pick has been made. We shouldn't be writing him off after his first ever NHL camp.

Juolevi was never a project player... it was said he’s NHL ready if he was heavier. His skating, skill and smarts was said to be NHL ready just not strong enough for the NHL.

 

[Pavel96]

I am pretty sure Joulevi will be an NHL player one day, book it.

When it gets to the point when you are no longer certain (not pretty sure) a 5th overall pick will be an NHL player, they have officially busted. Why draft someone at 5th overall that may not even play in the NHL? Asset management anyone?

 

[rune74]

When it gets to the point when you are no longer certain (not pretty sure) a 5th overall pick will be an NHL player, they have officially busted. Why draft someone at 5th overall that may not even play in the NHL? Asset management anyone?

I no where near think he is a bust yet, those are your words. Let's see how this goes.

 

[Pavel96]

I no where near think he is a bust yet, those are your words. Let's see how this goes.

I'm not saying he won't be an NHLer - but if he's a borderline NHLer, even a 4-6 dman - isn't that a bust considering the management pretty much saw him and marketed him as a top pairing guy? According to 'Draft Busts' in Wikipedia - "A draft bust occurs when a highly touted or highly selected draftee does not meet expectations."

Based on what Benning told you - he's a top pairing dman. So if you aren't even certain he will be an NHLer, never mind a top pairing guy - how can he not be a bust. Not saying he is a bad person, etc, just from your statement it seemed like you thought he was a bust.