Confirmed with Link: Oilers hire Archie Henderson/Tyler Wright as Directors of Pro/Amateur Scouting

[nuck]

Who should they have taken in each spot?

2018 - 8th overall - Zadina
Still looks like the right pick.

2017 - 7th Overall - Rasmussen
Played his rookie season last year.
Weak draft year, jury is still out. But the next 5 drafted players did not play many NHL games.

2016 - 20th Overall - Cholowski
Played 52 games last year as a rookie last year.
Followup players: Gauthier, Rubtsov, Borgstrom, Max Jones, and Tufte. Only Borgstrom played as many games.

2015 - 19th Overall - Svechnikov
Played a cup of coffee in the NHL last year.
Followup players: Eriksson Ek, Colin White, Samsonov, Brock Boeser (Probably the big miss that EVERYONE missed on).

2014 - 14th Overall - Larkin
This makes up for 2015 and THEN some.

2013 - 20th Overall - Mantha
Decent player
Followup players: Gauthier, Poirier, Burakovsky, Shinkaruk, McCarron.


If he did such a shoddy job? Then who should he have taken? He already STOLE Larkin.

Ist rounders are normally the GM's final pick, or in the case of Chiarelli and some others, the AGM's. The scouting list they work off of really starts outside the first round, and sometimes outside the second round. FWIW the Larkin pick was exactly where he was supposed to go. McKenzie had him at 12 and Bobo basically just offers an average ranking of his contact list. A great choice, but by no means particularly astute at 14.

The picks they win or lose at are outside the top 62.

 

[nuck]

Wright is a former oiler

we are getting a new OBC club going?

You mean NBC or NOBC? We need to be clear at what year the organization turned around

 

[McDoused]

So happy we got Wright. No more issues with our amateur scouting.

 

[Hynh]

Wright is an old boy 3 times over. Drafted by the Oilers. Worked for Holland as amateur scouting director. Worked for Howson in Columbus as amateur scouting director and development coach.

 

[edmoil3]

Wright is an old boy 3 times over. Drafted by the Oilers. Worked for Holland as amateur scouting director. Worked for Howson in Columbus as amateur scouting director and development coach.

80% of jobs in the world are given from past performance and or past relationships

 

[Tobias Kahun]

80% of jobs in the world are given from past performance and or past relationships

I’m not even shocked most of HFOil doesn’t understand that.

The nhl is one big old boys club.

 

[nabob]

I’m not even shocked most of HFOil doesn’t understand that.

The nhl is one big old boys club.

I’m not either. There’s a very vocal percentage of posters who likely don’t have careers or have only worked min wage jobs.

 

[TheNumber4]

We have the 2nd smallest Scouting dept in the NHL right behind Arizona (who rely very extensively on a video-scouting dept).

We also have no European scouts, and 2 professional scouts (one of them doubled as an Amateur scout).

We could add another 5-6 more scouts to have an average sized scouting dept.


Just sayin I hope we don't give anyone 'the boot'.

Good post. Very Interesting. Where did you get this information by the way?

And good god this Oilers org is sad. Apparently we have an Owner who won't spare a dime when it comes to winning, yet we can't even find the time to hire more scouts. f***in sad.

 

[Marcel]

Archie Henderson begins his fourth season as a pro scout with the Red Wings. The former NHL forward has held similar positions with the Ottawa Senators and Washington Capitals. Henderson is responsible for identifying talent and working with Red Wings management regarding potential free agent acquisitions and trades and is based in the western United States and Canada.
Henderson, 61, played more than 15 professional seasons after originally being drafted by the Capitals. He made NHL stops in Minnesota and Hartford over three stints from 1980-83. The long-time minor leaguer is regarded as one of the toughest of his time, topping 200 penalty minutes seven times before retiring in 1988. The Calgary, Alberta, native's playing career was bookended by stops in Michigan breaking into the International Hockey League with the Port Huron Flags in 1977-78 and skating his final season in the same league with the Saginaw Hawks in 1987-88. The 59-year-old was also a teammate of Red Wings general manager Ken Holland when the pair suited up for the American Hockey League's Binghamton Whalers in 1982-83.

Archie played for the Victoria Cougars and against the big and tough New Westminster Bruin teams in the 70's

Wondered what happened to him

Was at a Cougars game with a girlfriend who later became an ex wife sitting beside the tunnel to the dressing room. As Archie walked by he spotted my girlfriend who he knew from when they both lived in Calgary so he stopped and in front of me asked my girlfriend out on a date.

In hindsight it might have been best if she had said yes.

He was a tough SOB but never thought he had much skill which goes to show the type of game played back then.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Good post. Very Interesting. Where did you get this information by the way?

And good god this Oilers org is sad. Apparently we have an Owner who won't spare a dime when it comes to winning, yet we can't even find the time to hire more scouts. ****in sad.

Read post 45..

 

[Hynh]

80% of jobs in the world are given from past performance and or past relationships

That doesn't make it effective. Lucic's contract was given for past performance and a past relationship.

 

[edmoil3]

That doesn't make it effective. Lucic's contract was given for past performance and a past relationship.

I’m not talking athletics

 

[CycloneSweep]

That doesn't make it effective. Lucic's contract was given for past performance and a past relationship.

I mean it's been effective league wide for decades.

 

[Seachd]

Good post. Very Interesting. Where did you get this information by the way?

And good god this Oilers org is sad. Apparently we have an Owner who won't spare a dime when it comes to winning, yet we can't even find the time to hire more scouts. ****in sad.

So which is it? You think the Oilers don’t have enough scouts based on Katz being cheap? Or not enough time?

Neither one makes sense.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

So which is it? You think the Oilers don’t have enough scouts based on Katz being cheap? Or not enough time?

Neither one makes sense.

I think he just displayed he can't read a whole thread before forming an opinion.

 

[Da McBomb]

I remember this hockey card!

 

[North Cole]

So which is it? You think the Oilers don’t have enough scouts based on Katz being cheap? Or not enough time?

Neither one makes sense.

I think he meant the opposite. A cheap owner wouldnt go for that Sekera buyout.

 

[Tyrolean]

The Edmonton red wings

Edmonton was once a farm team of the Red Wings.

 

[Senor Catface]

Archie played for the Victoria Cougars and against the big and tough New Westminster Bruin teams in the 70's

Wondered what happened to him

Was at a Cougars game with a girlfriend who later became an ex wife sitting beside the tunnel to the dressing room. As Archie walked by he spotted my girlfriend who he knew from when they both lived in Calgary so he stopped and in front of me asked my girlfriend out on a date.

In hindsight it might have been best if she had said yes.

He was a tough SOB but never thought he had much skill which goes to show the type of game played back then.

I can't imagine her saying no.

Was his nickname "Kid Gorgeous"?

 

[McRpro]

I can't imagine her saying no.

Was his nickname "Kid Gorgeous"?

"Kid Moe"

 

[HugginThePost]

80% of jobs in the world are given from past performance and or past relationships

It's also well known that about 43% of all statistics are completely made up.......

 

[ThePhoenixx]

It's also well known that about 43% of all statistics are completely made up.......

That's not true.

36% of those are repeat offenders.

 

[TheNumber4]

So which is it? You think the Oilers don’t have enough scouts based on Katz being cheap? Or not enough time?

Neither one makes sense.

Not Katz being cheap cause he hasn't shown to be. Sh*t management and planning would be the cuprit, if they can't even match other teams resources in terms of scouting.

 

[oilersrule14]

80% of jobs in the world are given from past performance and or past relationships

Usually this is a key factor in giving anyone a job. Hires here seem to be solely on past relationships, completely disregarding past performance - that's what people mean by new OBC. Tyler Wright's performance record isn't good, he just has a past relationship with the new GM.

 

[edmoil3]

It's also well known that about 43% of all statistics are completely made up.......

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