Post-Game Talk: Oilers 6 - Jets 3

[AlphaLackey]

That movie was great though

True story: in my casino dealer days, I had a burning crush on a coworker, who I finally convinced to go on a date with me, to watch Titanic (which was still in theaters). I did this under advice that A: she absolutely loved the movie and B: she had a thing for sensitive guys.

Well, of course, it's not hard to get misty talking about the worst maritime disaster in the past 100 years that wasn't the Edmund Fitzgerald </CanCon> but as the movie went on, I was very distressed by my inability to 'generate emotion' to induce that sort of 'cuddle time' that happens in movies on dates, right?

So as the ship starts going down, I take some extreme measures.

We had a bag of popcorn between us that was almost gone, and knowing what I did about how the human eye reacts to irritants, I stuck my right pointer and middle finger in the buttery, salty sludge at the bottom, swirled it around, and when she wasn't looking, I poked myself repeatedly in the eyes with those fingers like I was a one-man Three Stooges off(-off-off-WAY-off) Broadway show.

And as I'm sure you know, the eyes always maintain a thin patina of saline tears, so it took a few seconds and I was like "why isn't this workiOH MY GOD IT BURNS IT BURNS!"

And my date heard my muffled moaning, and looked over, and saw that the tears were, like, *absolutely gushing* down my ducts.

And she grabbed my left forearm and gave it a squeeze, and reached into her purse to get a tissue.

But the thing is, this was at the point in the movie where the ship had finally completely listed vertically, right?

And that guy was hanging on to the rail but he lost his grip, and he screamed, and he fell halfway down until his head hit the propellor with a sonorous *CLANG*, and all sounds went silent until seconds later he splashed into the ocean.

And still to this day, I don't know why this was the funniest f***ing thing I had seen in a year, but by God, I laughed.

I laughed and I laughed and I laughed.

And when I was done laughing, I looked over at my date.

And while I would hesitate to describe the look in her eyes at *entirely* abject horror, it was close enough.

My forearm was released, she wouldn't even take a Twizzler that I offered her, and that was the absolute end of that.

But I swear, I'd go to St. Peter right now and defend myself, 'cause if this isn't the f***in' funniest moment in cinema, I dunno what is.

 

[snowkiddin]

True story: in my casino dealer days, I had a burning crush on a coworker, who I finally convinced to go on a date with me, to watch Titanic (which was still in theaters). I did this under advice that A: she absolutely loved the movie and B: she had a thing for sensitive guys.

Well, of course, it's not hard to get misty talking about the worst maritime disaster in the past 100 years that wasn't the Edmund Fitzgerald </CanCon> but as the movie went on, I was very distressed by my inability to 'generate emotion' to induce that sort of 'cuddle time' that happens in movies on dates, right?

So as the ship starts going down, I take some extreme measures.

We had a bag of popcorn between us that was almost gone, and knowing what I did about how the human eye reacts to irritants, I stuck my right pointer and middle finger in the buttery, salty sludge at the bottom, swirled it around, and when she wasn't looking, I poked myself repeatedly in the eyes with those fingers like I was a one-man Three Stooges off(-off-off-WAY-off) Broadway show.

And as I'm sure you know, the eyes always maintain a thin patina of saline tears, so it took a few seconds and I was like "why isn't this workiOH MY GOD IT BURNS IT BURNS!"

And my date heard my muffled moaning, and looked over, and saw that the tears were, like, *absolutely gushing* down my ducts.

And she grabbed my left forearm and gave it a squeeze, and reached into her purse to get a tissue.

But the thing is, this was at the point in the movie where the ship had finally completely listed vertically, right?

And that guy was hanging on to the rail but he lost his grip, and he screamed, and he fell halfway down until his head hit the propellor with a sonorous *CLANG*, and all sounds went silent until seconds later he splashed into the ocean.

And still to this day, I don't know why this was the funniest f***ing thing I had seen in a year, but by God, I laughed.

I laughed and I laughed and I laughed.

And when I was done laughing, I looked over at my date.

And while I would hesitate to describe the look in her eyes at *entirely* abject horror, it was close enough.

My forearm was released, she wouldn't even take a Twizzler that I offered her, and that was the absolute end of that.

But I swear, I'd go to St. Peter right now and defend myself, 'cause if this isn't the f***in' funniest moment in cinema, I dunno what is.

Thanks for sharing, that was a great story

I like that part too. I tried playing that guy in Akinator before but the Web Genie knows that one.

 

[WolfHouse]

True story: in my casino dealer days, I had a burning crush on a coworker, who I finally convinced to go on a date with me, to watch Titanic (which was still in theaters). I did this under advice that A: she absolutely loved the movie and B: she had a thing for sensitive guys.

Well, of course, it's not hard to get misty talking about the worst maritime disaster in the past 100 years that wasn't the Edmund Fitzgerald </CanCon> but as the movie went on, I was very distressed by my inability to 'generate emotion' to induce that sort of 'cuddle time' that happens in movies on dates, right?

So as the ship starts going down, I take some extreme measures.

We had a bag of popcorn between us that was almost gone, and knowing what I did about how the human eye reacts to irritants, I stuck my right pointer and middle finger in the buttery, salty sludge at the bottom, swirled it around, and when she wasn't looking, I poked myself repeatedly in the eyes with those fingers like I was a one-man Three Stooges off(-off-off-WAY-off) Broadway show.

And as I'm sure you know, the eyes always maintain a thin patina of saline tears, so it took a few seconds and I was like "why isn't this workiOH MY GOD IT BURNS IT BURNS!"

And my date heard my muffled moaning, and looked over, and saw that the tears were, like, *absolutely gushing* down my ducts.

And she grabbed my left forearm and gave it a squeeze, and reached into her purse to get a tissue.

But the thing is, this was at the point in the movie where the ship had finally completely listed vertically, right?

And that guy was hanging on to the rail but he lost his grip, and he screamed, and he fell halfway down until his head hit the propellor with a sonorous *CLANG*, and all sounds went silent until seconds later he splashed into the ocean.

And still to this day, I don't know why this was the funniest f***ing thing I had seen in a year, but by God, I laughed.

I laughed and I laughed and I laughed.

And when I was done laughing, I looked over at my date.

And while I would hesitate to describe the look in her eyes at *entirely* abject horror, it was close enough.

My forearm was released, she wouldn't even take a Twizzler that I offered her, and that was the absolute end of that.

But I swear, I'd go to St. Peter right now and defend myself, 'cause if this isn't the f***in' funniest moment in cinema, I dunno what is.

Holy fk man - i laughed at the exact same point 100% - like crying laughing

I had actually begged my gf at the time not to watch it together... i was like ill hate it and you love it - so i was really really trying hard to like it and ignore the plot holes

That clang broke me.

In fact i just broke into laughter just writing this post haha

 

[howkie]

Lucky we did not spend that first, it is soon a lotto ticket..

 

[AlphaLackey]

Holy fk man - i laughed at the exact same point 100% - like crying laughing

I had actually begged my gf at the time not to watch it together... i was like ill hate it and you love it - so i was really really trying hard to like it and ignore the plot holes

That clang broke me.

In fact i just broke into laughter just writing this post haha

Then you both know exactly what I'm getting at. I maintain to this day it was a deliberate moment of comic relief to break up so much heavy drama -- propeller *CLANG* head guy is absolutely as worth of respect as the drunken porter in MacBeth, and for the same reasons.

Since I mentioned Shakespeare I'll now have to tag @kanadalainen for an authenticity check

 

[kanadalainen]

absolutely as worth of respect as the drunken porter in MacBeth, and for the same reasons.

Since I mentioned Shakespeare I'll now have to tag @kanadalainen for an authenticity check

 

[AlphaLackey]

Well, if I thought you had any taste outside your wind-shorn tongue's buds, I'd have referred to Jack Point from Yeoman of the Guard, but I'm left to work with what doggerel you leave me

 

[kanadalainen]

Well, if I thought you had any taste outside your wind-shorn tongue's buds, I'd have referred to Jack Point from Yeoman of the Guard, but I'm left to work with what doggerel you leave me

Sir Alpha was a doughty swain, white was his face as paindemain, his lippes red as rose, yo - he had a comely nose.

 

[AlphaLackey]

Sir Alpha was a doughty swain, white was his face as paindemain, his lippes red as rose, yo - he had a comely nose.

don't you Chaucer me, you logger-headed, tickle-brained pompion!

 

[kanadalainen]

Jets: Where art my 2022 team? We breathlessly await thine return from the hinterland of mediocrity.

I will resort to hackneyed gifs and youtube clips.

First up, Michael Palin's "Eight to bloody one"

 

[kanadalainen]

Its time for Allegory.

Tonight: I will provide a short treatise on the similes drawn among the play of the Jets and the saga entitled "The Testing of Eric Olthwaite".

Eric Olthwaite (eg, the Jets) is/are so boring that his family (HF Jets) all leave home to escape him. Then one day he (they) is/are accidentally caught up in a bank robbery (a well played game) and discovers that the robber (Oilers) shares his/their interests in shovels, black pudding and rainfall so they team up to make daring raids to steal rainfall records.

The end.

(Next up: the Jetcentric adaptation of "Across the Andes by Frog").

 

[Aggie204]

I’m watching the game tomorrow….feels like it’ll be the same result.

 

[Jet]

There was a game when Ehlers just got back and ESW lit it up for the first period... I think it was Wheelers multipoint game actually

ESW made a wicked tic tac toe scoring play and then just overpassed and watched their brilliance... well kind of since then - at least Ehlers tries sometimes - Scheif/Wheeler just padding stats

Scheif is playing for his hockey card - strip the A from him

I have been critical of Scheifele both in previous years, and during this slide.

However, I really liked his game last night. He created alot and seemed like one of the few of our top end players that was actually executing and fired up. He was physical and fully engaged.

If we can get him Morrissey and one or two other top guys playing like that they should be able to turn the tide for this group.

Hellebuyck and Rittich weren't good enough as a tandem last night. Neither was bad, but we needed a stellar performance. Helle has struggled his last few outings a bit, I think he'll be excellent today.

Maenalanen Fjallby and Baron were really engaged too. I don't want to see AJF come out again before Kuhlman at least. The guy tries but he gets overpowered in every battle and makes brutal passes.

Ehlers is not right. I don't know if he re tweaked his groin and is either unable or too scared to push it, but everything he did is predicated on speed and he doesn’t have it.

I still have hope for this group but if they don't turn it around I think it's time to blow it up.

The main players I'd look to move are 55 26 27 4 and 88. Every other player should be available except 37 44 91 81 54 and 62.

I'm not saying all of them WILL move, but we need a significant core churn. I also believe Chevy should not be the one to lead this. No offense to Bowness but the new GM should be able to bring in his own staff.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

True story: in my casino dealer days, I had a burning crush on a coworker, who I finally convinced to go on a date with me, to watch Titanic (which was still in theaters). I did this under advice that A: she absolutely loved the movie and B: she had a thing for sensitive guys.

Well, of course, it's not hard to get misty talking about the worst maritime disaster in the past 100 years that wasn't the Edmund Fitzgerald </CanCon> but as the movie went on, I was very distressed by my inability to 'generate emotion' to induce that sort of 'cuddle time' that happens in movies on dates, right?

So as the ship starts going down, I take some extreme measures.

We had a bag of popcorn between us that was almost gone, and knowing what I did about how the human eye reacts to irritants, I stuck my right pointer and middle finger in the buttery, salty sludge at the bottom, swirled it around, and when she wasn't looking, I poked myself repeatedly in the eyes with those fingers like I was a one-man Three Stooges off(-off-off-WAY-off) Broadway show.

And as I'm sure you know, the eyes always maintain a thin patina of saline tears, so it took a few seconds and I was like "why isn't this workiOH MY GOD IT BURNS IT BURNS!"

And my date heard my muffled moaning, and looked over, and saw that the tears were, like, *absolutely gushing* down my ducts.

And she grabbed my left forearm and gave it a squeeze, and reached into her purse to get a tissue.

But the thing is, this was at the point in the movie where the ship had finally completely listed vertically, right?

And that guy was hanging on to the rail but he lost his grip, and he screamed, and he fell halfway down until his head hit the propellor with a sonorous *CLANG*, and all sounds went silent until seconds later he splashed into the ocean.

And still to this day, I don't know why this was the funniest f***ing thing I had seen in a year, but by God, I laughed.

I laughed and I laughed and I laughed.

And when I was done laughing, I looked over at my date.

And while I would hesitate to describe the look in her eyes at *entirely* abject horror, it was close enough.

My forearm was released, she wouldn't even take a Twizzler that I offered her, and that was the absolute end of that.

But I swear, I'd go to St. Peter right now and defend myself, 'cause if this isn't the f***in' funniest moment in cinema, I dunno what is.

I will don’t understand why Jack never got on the door at the end….

 

[slurpee addict]

Wheeler lately might be the worst player in the nhl. It’s like he’s playing with a two by four instead of a stick. Get him off the ice or at least get him off the power play. The game slows down when he has the puck. In some sports that’s good. Not in hockey. Jets need something to break the slump and whatever is happening in their heads. Bench or healthy scratch a few of the top six - cause they aren’t doing anything.
And if Stanley wants out of Winnipeg then ship him out asap. Softest 6 foot 7 player ever.
Rant over.

 

[Jack7222]

Stopped watching at 4. If the team ends up rebuilding I think there will be a lot of nights like this.

As opposed to now..

 

[KingBogo]

As opposed to now..

Now we are in a slump, but more than likely we will be around .500 or so through the rest of the season. A rebuild will be several long seasons like we are going through now.

I have been critical of Scheifele both in previous years, and during this slide.

However, I really liked his game last night. He created alot and seemed like one of the few of our top end players that was actually executing and fired up. He was physical and fully engaged.

If we can get him Morrissey and one or two other top guys playing like that they should be able to turn the tide for this group.

Hellebuyck and Rittich weren't good enough as a tandem last night. Neither was bad, but we needed a stellar performance. Helle has struggled his last few outings a bit, I think he'll be excellent today.

Maenalanen Fjallby and Baron were really engaged too. I don't want to see AJF come out again before Kuhlman at least. The guy tries but he gets overpowered in every battle and makes brutal passes.

Ehlers is not right. I don't know if he re tweaked his groin and is either unable or too scared to push it, but everything he did is predicated on speed and he doesn’t have it.

I still have hope for this group but if they don't turn it around I think it's time to blow it up.

The main players I'd look to move are 55 26 27 4 and 88. Every other player should be available except 37 44 91 81 54 and 62.

I'm not saying all of them WILL move, but we need a significant core churn. I also believe Chevy should not be the one to lead this. No offense to Bowness but the new GM should be able to bring in his own staff.

What about 80? He already has 1 foot out the door?

 

[Jet]

Wheeler lately might be the worst player in the nhl. It’s like he’s playing with a two by four instead of a stick. Get him off the ice or at least get him off the power play. The game slows down when he has the puck. In some sports that’s good. Not in hockey. Jets need something to break the slump and whatever is happening in their heads. Bench or healthy scratch a few of the top six - cause they aren’t doing anything.
And if Stanley wants out of Winnipeg then ship him out asap. Softest 6 foot 7 player ever.
Rant over.

It's really weird - Wheeler was trending really well and then it was like the 'Wheels' fell off. I agree, I've been a big Wheeler supporter even when people were raking him over the coals but it's really hard to watch him play right now. He's slow all over the ice, not only in movement but in execution speed. He makes a pass like a beginner, everyone in the rink knows what he's trying to do and he either doesn't get anything on the pass, or he misses the target.

It's kind of shocking how he is playing right now, but he's not the only one. Ehlers, Demelo are a couple off the top of my head that are playing far below their ability right now.

Now we are in a slump, but more than likely we will be around .500 or so through the rest of the season. A rebuild will be several long seasons like we are going through now.


What about 80? He already has 1 foot out the door?

Honestly, I still do not truly believe one side or the other. The information we've gotten about Dubois has been so polluted with opinion and emotion, I don't think we have any earthly idea what he is going to do.

My mindset is I left him in the middle group. If he wanted to sign with us I would keep him because I have liked his game pretty much all year (outside of the last couple that were likely injury driven). I feel like Dubois is a special, rare type of player that you hold onto. I like his passion and grit, and I think that is one thing that is missing from this group at times.

I would also say that if you can keep Dubois that makes moving Scheifele more palatable. I think in the offseason 55 fetches a younger up and coming C that can slide into the 2C slot. You might lose a bit in overall skill, but you gain youth and I just can't help but wonder what this team is missing that doesn't allow them to fight through bad situations. I don't know what role Schiefele plays in that but i do know that he and Wheeler have been the constant and our team outside of 17-18 just has not been able to manage the mental game well.

 

[JetsUK]

Missed this one — for the best, it seems.

Feel very caught up and well-informed via this GDT tho, so thanks all who posted. I have now taken on your pain,

 

[John Agar]

Its time for Allegory.

Tonight: I will provide a short treatise on the similes drawn among the play of the Jets and the saga entitled "The Testing of Eric Olthwaite".

Eric Olthwaite (eg, the Jets) is/are so boring that his family (HF Jets) all leave home to escape him. Then one day he (they) is/are accidentally caught up in a bank robbery (a well played game) and discovers that the robber (Oilers) shares his/their interests in shovels, black pudding and rainfall so they team up to make daring raids to steal rainfall records.

The end.

(Next up: the Jetcentric adaptation of "Across the Andes by Frog").

To assist those not familiar with nuance and wimsy...

allegory​

noun​

al·le·go·ry ˈa-lə-ˌgȯr-ē

pluralallegories
Synonyms of allegory
1
: the expression by means of symbolic fictional figures and actions of truths or generalizations about human existence... a writer known for his use of allegory

also : an instance (as in a story or painting) of such expression
The poem is an allegory of love and jealousy.

2
: a symbolic representation : EMBLEM sense 2


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[KingBogo]

It's really weird - Wheeler was trending really well and then it was like the 'Wheels' fell off. I agree, I've been a big Wheeler supporter even when people were raking him over the coals but it's really hard to watch him play right now. He's slow all over the ice, not only in movement but in execution speed. He makes a pass like a beginner, everyone in the rink knows what he's trying to do and he either doesn't get anything on the pass, or he misses the target.

It's kind of shocking how he is playing right now, but he's not the only one. Ehlers, Demelo are a couple off the top of my head that are playing far below their ability right now.


Honestly, I still do not truly believe one side or the other. The information we've gotten about Dubois has been so polluted with opinion and emotion, I don't think we have any earthly idea what he is going to do.

My mindset is I left him in the middle group. If he wanted to sign with us I would keep him because I have liked his game pretty much all year (outside of the last couple that were likely injury driven). I feel like Dubois is a special, rare type of player that you hold onto. I like his passion and grit, and I think that is one thing that is missing from this group at times.

I would also say that if you can keep Dubois that makes moving Scheifele more palatable. I think in the offseason 55 fetches a younger up and coming C that can slide into the 2C slot. You might lose a bit in overall skill, but you gain youth and I just can't help but wonder what this team is missing that doesn't allow them to fight through bad situations. I don't know what role Schiefele plays in that but i do know that he and Wheeler have been the constant and our team outside of 17-18 just has not been able to manage the mental game well.

I don't see PLD staying, and I'm about as optimistic as they come around here. Everything suggests he is on the Trouba track and I just hope at this point he isn't dead set on only one location. IMO the most likely player to stay on is Scheifele and I think he does it a pretty fair price. I hope like Hell that Helly is willing to stay. I agree Ehlers is probably gone within a season or 2. A bit too far out to get a handle on Connor but he will be expensive to keep.

 

[JetsFan815]

Standings since Jan 16th (the Montreal game):

Jets are literally in the last place in the league.

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[rkp]

How many of the top six wanna hang around for a rebuild!?

 

[JetsUK]

It's really weird - Wheeler was trending really well and then it was like the 'Wheels' fell off. I agree, I've been a big Wheeler supporter even when people were raking him over the coals but it's really hard to watch him play right now. He's slow all over the ice, not only in movement but in execution speed. He makes a pass like a beginner, everyone in the rink knows what he's trying to do and he either doesn't get anything on the pass, or he misses the target.

It's kind of shocking how he is playing right now, but he's not the only one. Ehlers, Demelo are a couple off the top of my head that are playing far below their ability right now.


Honestly, I still do not truly believe one side or the other. The information we've gotten about Dubois has been so polluted with opinion and emotion, I don't think we have any earthly idea what he is going to do.

My mindset is I left him in the middle group. If he wanted to sign with us I would keep him because I have liked his game pretty much all year (outside of the last couple that were likely injury driven). I feel like Dubois is a special, rare type of player that you hold onto. I like his passion and grit, and I think that is one thing that is missing from this group at times.

I would also say that if you can keep Dubois that makes moving Scheifele more palatable. I think in the offseason 55 fetches a younger up and coming C that can slide into the 2C slot. You might lose a bit in overall skill, but you gain youth and I just can't help but wonder what this team is missing that doesn't allow them to fight through bad situations. I don't know what role Schiefele plays in that but i do know that he and Wheeler have been the constant and our team outside of 17-18 just has not been able to manage the mental game well.

Agree with your take on PLD. I like him a lot more than most, he’s one of few true gamebreakers on the team now, perhaps one of three along with Helle and JMo at this point.

And he brings the fire, albeit with some penalty risk. Until McGroarty makes the show he’s kinda it in that regard — again, with JMo.

This team needs another Banff break. Or something. This feels much more like head and heart rather than skill stuff. But time is running out, and fast.

 

[DRW204]

I watched the first two periods and called it a night.

This Jekyll and Hyde shit reminds me of the 2018-19 season so much. I mentioned it a couple weeks ago but didn't want to slap that label just yet but it sure is trending that way.

Using 12-31-2022 as an unffoicial halfway mark:
Only Washington has had a greater fall off if you split the two half seasons. The Jets were the 8th place team on that day through 37 gp. And from the games onward they've been the 23rd best team (25gp).

I'm glad they didn't move a 1st+ like they did that year (although we got it back). What over the past couple months has instilled any confidence?

They had a great first half which is nice. Perhaps that can attributed to a new coach bounce, or players like Dubois or Lowry over-performing at unreasonable rates. Idk. Helle hasn't been as sharp either.

Call it recency bias but how you finish, momentum, peaking at the right time etc does carry some weight. Maybe this team turns it around but just think given how it was performing as of yesterday I wasn't comfortable with on high priced rentals.