Speculation: Offseason Thread #15: Thinking of a new title is Vesey difficult

[Gardner McKay]

Continue. This shall be the thread of bad puns.

Courtesy of BBkers.

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2016-2017 (45 - 46 depending on if Gropps contract slides)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD(24)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr|Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status|Team 2015 |Drafted/Acquired |Age 2016
1| F | Jesper Fast(h) |$950.000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #157 NYR (2010) |25
2| D | Dylan McIlrath |$800,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #10 NYR (2010) |24
3| F | Oscar Lindberg^ |$650,000 |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #57 PHX (2010) - acquired unsigned through trade|25
4| F | Josh Jooris |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Calgary Flames/NHL |Undrafted - signed w/NYR as UFA |26
5| F | Tanner Glass |$1,450,000 |UFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #265 Florida Panthers (2003) - signed w/NYR as UFA |32
6| F | Nathan Gerbe |$600,000 |UFA 2017 |Carolina Hurricanes/NHL|Undrafted - signed w/NYR as UFA |26
7| F | J.T. Miller |$2.750.000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011) |23
8| F | Kevin Hayes |$2,600,000 |RFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #24 Chicago (2010)- signed w/NYR as UFA |24
9| F | Mika Zibanejad |$2,625,000 |RFA 2018 |Ottawa Senators/NHL |R1 #6 Ottawa Senators (2011) - acquired through trade |23
10| D | Brady Skjei (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #28 NYR (2012) |22
11| F | Jimmy Vesey (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018 |Harvard/NCAA |R3 #66 Nashville (2012)- signed w/NYR as UFA |23
12| D | Kevin Kline |$2,900,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #37 Nashville Predators (2003) - acquired through trade|32
13| D | Nick Holden |$1,650,000 |UFA 2018 |Colorado Avalanche/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |29
14| F | Michael Grabner |$1,600,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Islanders/NHL |R1 #14 Vancover Canucks (2006) - signed w/NYR as UFA |29
15| G | Anti Raanta |$1,000,000 |UFA 2018 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted - acquired through trade |27
16| F | Pavel Buchnevich (ELC)|$925,000* |RFA 2019 |St. Petersburg SKA/KHL |R3 #75 NYR (2013) |21
17| F | Rick Nash (NMC) |$7,800,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #1 overall Columbus Blue Jackets (2002) - acquired through trade|32
18| D | Ryan McDonagh |$4,700,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 Montreal (2007) - acquired unsigned through trade|27
19| F | Mats Zuccarello (NTC) |$4,500,000 |UFA 2019 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |29
20| D | Dan Girardi (NMC => NTC)|$5,500,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |32
21| F | Chris Kreider |$4,625,000 |UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |25
22| G | Henrik Lundqvist (NMC)|$8,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #208 NYR (2000) |34
23| F | Derek Stepan (NMC => NTC)|$6,500,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #51 NYR (2008) |26
24| D | Marc Staal (NMC => NTC)|$5,750,000 |UFA 2021 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #12 NYR (2005) |29[/table]

TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $73,000,000
CAP PAYROLL: $70,825,000
LTIR: $650,000 (injured players salary - Lindberg - can be deducted once season starts)
CAP SPACE (24-man roster - 14 FWDs, 7 D, 2 G): $2,175,000
^ - injured, operated on in offseason and placed on LTIR until November/December

AVERAGE AGE ~ 26.8 years

CONTRACTED BUT ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL/ELSEWHERE (21-22 depending on Ryan Gropps status)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit |Contract Status |Team 2015 |Drafted |Age 2016
25|D |Chris Summers |$600.000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #29 Phoenix Coyotes (2006) |28
26|D |Matt Bodie |$600.000 |UFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |26
27|D |Tommy Hughes |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |24
28|F |Adam Chapie (ELC) |$800.000* |RFA 2017 |UMass/NCAA |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25
29|D |Troy Donnay (ELC) |$716,667* |RFA 2017 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |22
30|G |MacKenzie Skapski (ELC)|$661,667* |RFA 2017 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R6 #170 NYR (2013) |22
31|D |Calle Andersson (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #119 NYR (2012) |22
32|G |Magnus Hellberg |$625,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #38 Nashville (2011) |25
33|F |Marek Hrivik |$600,00 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25
34|F |Niklas Jensen |$600,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #29 Vancouver (2011) |23
35|D |Adam Clendening |$600.000 |RFA 2017 |Edmonton Oilers/NHL |R2 #36 Chicago Blackhawks (2011) |24
36|D |Michael Paliotta |$600.000 |RFA 2017 |Lake Eerie Monsters/AHL |R3 #61 Chicago Blackhawks (2011) |23
37|F |Chris Brown |$575,000 |RFA 2017 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #36 Arizona (2009) |25
38|F |Adam Tambellini (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #65 NYR (2013) |22
39|F |Cristoval Nieves(ELC) |$755.000* |RFA 2018 |Michigan Wolverines/NCAA |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |22
40|F |Steven Fogarty (ELC) |$750.000* |RFA 2018 |Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA |R3 #72 NYR (2011) |23
41|F |Malte Strömwall (ELC) |$742.500* |RFA 2018 |AIK/Allsvenskan |R7 #7198 Calgary(started w NYR) |23
42|D |John Gilmour(ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Providence/NCAA |R2 #59 NYR (2012) |22
43|D |Ryan Graves (ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R4 #110 NYR (2013) |21
44|F |Ryan Gropp (ELC-S?)¤ |$839.166* |RFA 2019 |Seattle/WHL |R2 #41 NYR (2015) |20
45|LW |Robin Kovacs (ELC) |$803.333* |RFA 2019 |AIK/Allsvenskan |R3 #62 NYR (2015) |20
46|G |Brandon Halvorsen (ELC)|$803.333* |RFA 2019 |Sault Ste. Marie/OHL |R2 #59 NYR (2014) |20
(47)|D |Sergey Zborovskiy (ELC-S?)¤|$734,166 |RFA 2019 |Regina Pats/WHL |R3 #79 NYR (2015) |19
(45)|LW/D|Ahti Oksanen @ |$??? |AHL deal |Boston University/NCAA |Undrafted |23
(46)|RW |Michael Joly @ |$?? |AHL deal |Cape Breton/QMJHL |Undrafted |21[/table]

* - has additional bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
¤ - contract can slide if he remains in juniors (Gropp & Zborovskiy)
@ - signed to an AHL deal with Hartford Wolfpack

PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT WITH RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (11)
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Team| Height |Weight| Nationality |Shoots|DOB|Drafted
1|G |Igor Shesterkin |St. Petersburg SKA (KHL) |6' 1"| 187 | Russia |L|December 30, 1995 |R4 #118 NYR (2014)
2|D |Tyler Nanne ¤ |Ohio State/NCAA (did not play) |5' 10"|175 | USA |R|March 17, 1996 |R5 #142 NYR (2014)
3|C |Brad Morrison |Prince George/WHL |6' 0"| 160 | Canada |L|January 4, 1997 |R4 #113 NYR (2015)
4|RW |Daniel Bernhardt |London Knights/OHL |6' 3"| 191 | Sweden |L|April 11, 1996 |R4 #119 NYR (2015)
5|G |Adam Huska |Green Bay Gamblers/USHL |6' 3" |191 | Slovakia |L|May 12, 1997 |R7 #184 NYR (2015)
6|D |Sean Day |Mississauga Steelheads/OHL |6' 2" |229 | Belgium/Canada|L|January 9, 1998 |R3 #81 NYR (2016)
7|D |Tarmo Reunanen |TPS U20 (Finland) |6' 0" |180 | Finland |L|March 1, 1998 |R4 #98 NYR (2016)
8|LW/RW |Timothy Gettinger |Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds/OHL|6' 5" |201 | USA |R|April 14, 1998 |R5 #141 NYR (2016)
9|c |Gabriel Fontaine |Rouyn-Noranda Huskies/QMJHL |6' 1" |187 | Canada |L|April 30, 1997 |R6 #171 NYR (2016)
10|G |Tyler Wall |Leamington Flyers/GOJHL |6' 2" |190 | Canada |R|January 14, 1998 |R6 #174 NYR (2016)
11|C |Ty Ronning |Vancouver Giants/WHL |5' 9" |165 | Canada |R|October 20, 1997 |R7 #201 NYR (2016)
(12)|F |Klingberg, Carl |Free agent - rights retained |6' 3" |205 | Sweden |R|January 28, 1991 |R2 #34 Atlanta (2009)[/table]

¤ - injured

2017 DRAFT PICKS (5)

• 1st round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round Florida
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round VAN

• We lost our 2nd round pick to Carolina in the trade for Eric Staal
• We lost our 4th round pick to Colorado in the trade for Nick Holden
• We lost our 6th round pick to Nashville in the trade for Magnus Hellberg
• We lost our 7th round pick to Ottawa in the trade for Mika Zibanejad
• We gained a 4th round pick from Arizona for Keith Yandle - condition was met when he signed a 7 year deal there
• We gained a 6th round pick from Vancouver when we traded Emerson Etem

2018 DRAFT PICKS (8)

• 1st round NYR
• 2nd round Ottawa
• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round NYR
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round NYR
• 7th round NYR

• We gained a 2nd round pick from Ottawa when we traded Derrick Brassard

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[Mac n Gs]

If Gorton pulls off that scenario BBKers just posted, he'd have completely revamped the organization in an offseason.

 

[Alluckks]

I think it is perfectly reasonable that a beat reporter quickly wrote Vesey and Hayes bought a place together when he meant that they got a place together. These reporters aren't lawyers.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I think it is perfectly reasonable that a beat reporter quickly wrote Vesey and Hayes bought a place together when he meant that they got a place together. These reporters aren't lawyers.

If they got a place together I can't see it being any team but the Rangers. Who was that reporter anyway. I didn't see the tweet. Any credibility to get us excited?

 

[Crease]

I think it is perfectly reasonable that a beat reporter quickly wrote Vesey and Hayes bought a place together when he meant that they got a place together. These reporters aren't lawyers.

If there is one thing reporters and lawyers have in common, it is that words are the tools of their trade. It would be an unreasonable mistake, but also an unsurprising one in this day and age.

 

[New York RKY]

The Moore this process goes on the better our chances of Stepan up and getting Vesey I don't think our chances have Staal'd yet.

 

[Gardner McKay]

The Moore this process goes on the better our chances of Stepan up and getting Vesey I don't think our chances have Staal'd yet.

 

[Kovalev27]

I repeat There's no way they bought a condo in NYC together lol

 

[mti79]

Buying a condo together may Bodie well for us, but it may be moving too Fast. But let's be civil, no need to throw stones if we're all in Glass houses...


I'd really like to sign Vesey but I've got tempered expectations. Maybe we get him, maybe we don't. And if we don't, I won't let it ruin my weekend.

 

[we want cup]

If there is one thing reporters and lawyers have in common, it is that words are the tools of their trade. It would be an unreasonable mistake, but also an unsurprising one in this day and age.

Unfortunately prevailing trends in "journalism" incentivize being first over being accurate.

 

[Mikos87]

If Gorton pulls off that scenario BBKers just posted, he'd have completely revamped the organization in an offseason.

I definitely see a Staal for EKane deal, been posting about it here for a while. Makes too much sense for both teams.

The Pegulas want EKane gone, if there is video of that alleged incident that gets leaked, you can expect a lengthy suspension.

So there are some factors that hold up the trade.

 

[Kovalev27]

I'll tell you what Chris Drury won't let it ruin his weekend either

 

[Gardner McKay]

Buying a condo together may Bodie well for us, but it may be moving too Fast. But let's be civil, no need to throw stones if we're all in Glass houses...


I'd really like to sign Vesey but I've got tempered expectations. Maybe we get him, maybe we don't. And if we don't, I won't let it ruin my weekend.

Very well played.

I'll tell you what Chris Drury won't let it ruin his weekend either

True.

 

[cwede]

been looking for a list of other NCAA guys free as of this week
just found this
http://thehockeywriters.com/college-free-agents-nhl-jimmy-vesey-thomas-di-pauli-quentin-shore/

FYI Eliteprospects says Witthcow will sign with Springfield AHL
and a Panthers blog added a D named Gallacher(Ohio St then UMass) to the list

 

[bernmeister]

Continue. This shall be the thread of bad puns.

you don't say, man with the tagline of Mango.

(Artie Johnson impression)
interesting vesssssssss ey interesting.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

I want Trouba. He should be our main target. A top pair of McD-Trouba would be among the league's best for years to come.

I'm not exactly sure what we could give up to acquire him, though. I don't know if Zucc would be enough, Winnipeg is pretty stacked at forward. I think they'd definitely want Skjei.

 

[Kovalev27]

I don't see us as a great trading partner with Winnipeg they don't need a vet winger

 

[Mikos87]

I want Trouba. He should be our main target. A top pair of McD-Trouba would be among the league's best for years to come.

I'm not exactly sure what we could give up to acquire him, though. I don't know if Zucc would be enough, Winnipeg is pretty stacked at forward. I think they'd definitely want Skjei.

I'd go Kreider, McIlrath and 1st floor Trouba.

But there are issues when dealing with Chevy. He doesn't make deals unless he gets his price. There's no negotiations with that guy to really speak of.

One of the biggest reasons why he has such few player for player deals.

Look at his trade history and you'll see what I mean.

 

[FLYLine27*]

So, I wonder how it went. By now I have to assume the Ranger's had their sit down with him.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

I don't see us as a great trading partner with Winnipeg they don't need a vet winger

Yeah. They need a left hand defenseman.

 

[cwede]

I'd go Kreider, McIlrath and 1st floor Trouba.

3 first's for Trouba!
who has somewhat Hayes'd for both his 2d and 3rd year?
[ i do believe he's a longtime top 4, but he has been inconsistent ]
OK but they also send back more - say Adam Lowry and prospects like Poolman and/or Glover as well

 

[JT Kreider]

I'm not buying the whole apartment thing with Hayes.

Him and Rath were interviewed by Cerny at a youth camp a few weeks back and I'm pretty sure he said he just got a place in Boston with Johnny Gaudreau and Paul Carey.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I don't see us as a great trading partner with Winnipeg they don't need a vet winger

Agreed, Winnipeg seems to have a surplus of young talent on the Wings to go with their Veterans.

Wheeler, Stafford, Ehlers, Laine, Dano, Perrault, Kyle Connor. That's 7 surefire top 9 wingers.

Then they also have Burmistrov, Petan, Armia, Thorburn.

I don't see Wing being a need at all for the Jets, if anything, I think they'd be looking to move a guy like Perrault or Stafford to open up space for Connor and their other young wings.

I think the Jets could use a LHD and a 3rd line C maybe.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I'm not buying the whole apartment thing with Hayes.

Him and Rath were interviewed by Cerny at a youth camp a few weeks back and I'm pretty sure he said he just got a place in Boston with Johnny Gaudreau and Paul Carey.

I'd assume his place with Johnny Hockey was a summer place for the offseason. Not sure how that impacts where he lives during the year.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

So, with this move they've effectively taken themselves out of the Vesey race, no?