For those who expect Couture and Pavelski to seamlessly take over the reigns if Thornton and Marleau are traded
Marleau and Couture CF% together: 54.9%
Marleau CF% without Couture (playing mostly center, which he isn't used to): 50.4%
Couture CF% without marleau: 44.7%
Thornton and Pavelski CF% together: 61.6%
Thornton CF% without Pavelski: 55.5%
Pavelski CF% without Thornton (playing against 3rd line competition primarily): 51.9%
yea Jumbo goes from 60% with burns to 53% without. so what? and pavs was primarily against 3rd line comp with third line-linemates. thornton never has that big of a drop in QoT where as pavs does, yet there is a 2 percent diff in CF. big freakin WHOOP.
where pavs received most of his boost was GF% not CF%. even without jumbo he was a good positive in the goalscoring dept. as well.
heres some stats just to play your game
wingels with pavs
GF% 61/ CF% 54
without pavs
GF 49%/ CF% 52%
burns with pavs
GF% 71% !!!/CF% 58%
without pavs
GF% 56/CF% 55
looks like with a decent winger with size/speed he can do just fine
for couture its interesting if we look at the season before this one to get a bigger sample size
couture with marleau
GF% 59%/CF% 51%
without marleau
GF% 64%/CF% 53%
he had more minutes without marleau that year.
if you look at 12/13 as well pavs with joe doesnt get quite the boost that he did this year. what changed? burns.
your couture one is even more disingenuous in that couture apart was an incredible 84 minutes, whereas marleau apart was over 300. not to mention that marleau has a ridiculous amount of NHL experience, with quite a few games at Center id wager. so saying he isnt used to it does not mean anything. especially given the sharks system where it is practically interchangeable depending on who enters the zone first.
marleau out of pavs, thornton, marleau and stuart is the last one i want to trade to be honest. but you arent seeing pavs/couture for what they actually are. stop being blinded by one seasons worth of data in which pavs was tied to joe in a desperate attempt to hit 40. the couture/marleau thing is just as beneficial for marleau as it is couture. they have chemistry as a line and id say couture was actually the more dynamic offensive player. but it was a great yin and yang type of line because marleau did do grunt work defensively, but couture made things happen in the O-zone. the line needed both of them.
