NotProkofievian
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undoubtedly yes
People like to talk shit about teams that have rebuilt, but if they had to choose, they'd definitely choose the tanker's roster. There's just more to work with.
undoubtedly yes
Ok - so we agree then?
Not quite sure what the debate is about here...notice the premise of my comment that you originally commented on was about me not caring whether or not Sylvain Lefebvre coaches our D as an assistant coach. I think this team has bigger issues to deal with.
As long as the D-corps is built as it is, it doens't matter who is assistant coach. I think the biggest issue under SL has been his inability to develop talent to the NHL.
Well the assistant coach isn't directly responsible for developing talent to the NHL...his main role is to work as the sponge between the coach & players, know which D's should be out on the ice at what time and against who, run special teams either power play or penalty kill.
it might be a promotion for SL in terms of leagues (AHL to NHL) but his influence and power is actually greatly reduced if he was ever named assistant coach.
That being said - i have a hard time understanding how Bergevin could think this is a wise idea.
That's correct - I think assistant coach is not a priority for this team, TODAY.
I stand by that statement.
Yes - as long as the talent level is upgraded.
What has happened under Julien since Therrien took over?
The roster got worse and the results followed suit. Claude Julien just finished coaching one of the worst seasons of the Montreal Canadiens modern era, does that mean Therrien was better than him?
Of course not - it just means Therrien coached a better roster.
Probabl the best example of what i'm referring too when I say coaching is overstated.
I'll repeat what i'm trying to say...
hiring & firing decisions of the coaching staff are secondary and even tertiary to me.
Having a roster that a good coach can maximise talent from, matters way more. As I said earlier, think about the best assistant coach you can think of, place him in Montreal as one of CJ's assistants...
If you return the same exact D corps next year, results won't be all that better.
Maybe if you could tone down the condescending tone - it would help.i'm not sure how else to explain it to you, but you seem to be completely missing the point.
And here's where we disagree...Coaching is a controllable variable. Quite likely the single most important variable when it comes to managing and maximizing performance.
As such, it is the most important variable to get right in an environment where talent acquisition is not a sustainable advantage.
And IMO, even more important than the identity or abilities of the individual of the coach behind the bench.Building, growing, developing and maximizing talent falls under the purview of the coaching staff. Get the coaching staff wrong, and you erode talent both in the short and long term.
Get it right, and you go in the opposite direction.
that doesn't negate or conflict with the reality that a certain minimum level of talent is necessary and that acquiring talent is an important priority.
Bergevin was there for his 5 point game in the playoffsI can't shake this re-occuring nightmare where we win the lottery for 2nd place and somehow we don't draft Svechnikov...Someone please reassure me.
Bergevin was there for his 5 point game in the playoffs
its not a sample size.....we have been a mediocre team since the 90's and so have the NYI...there really isn't much difference, except we had a lucky run in 2010, but who really cares about that today?
Good news is we have literally no players, coach, management or owners from that time.
Bergevin was there for his 5 point game in the playoffs
the sad part is....we might be better off if we did
The only one who can reassure you is The Idiot.I can't shake this re-occuring nightmare where we win the lottery for 2nd place and somehow we don't draft Svechnikov...Someone please reassure me.
I hope the habs will get better fast, but put you in the place of tavares, you probably want to join a good team if you are going to left the NYI. The habs is really on the top of your list ?Because the Habs will forever be a terrible team for all of eternity. Taking a one year sample size works both ways. We finished first in the division last year. So by that theory we were always going to be the best team in the East. Tampa didn’t make the playoffs last year so why on Earth would Stamkos sign with a loser non playoff team?
Narrow minded points of view absent of any objective thought with blinders to possible outcomes that don’t fit your narrative are a terrible way to view things. Things change, teams get better or worse EVERY YEAR. No reason we can’t be back to contenders in the next year or two, especially if Tavares signs here even if that doesn’t fit your narrative.
I can't shake this re-occuring nightmare where we win the lottery for 2nd place and somehow we don't draft Svechnikov...Someone please reassure me.
But this idea that assistant coaches, in any way, have a direct influence on the outcome of games or players development...
Sorry, I don't buy that..
I'm sorry that offends you.You don't even believe the head coach has any influence on player development so I don't think this would surprise anyone.
I can't shake this re-occuring nightmare where we win the lottery for 2nd place and somehow we don't draft Svechnikov...Someone please reassure me.
I find it funny that some are quick to point to Stephane Waite as one of Bergevin's best moves, having a great deal to do with Price being the player he is today.
But when comes the possibility of Bergevin hiring a bum like Lefevbre in a similar role, it's suddenly not a big deal and has no impact on players development or the games.
Can't wait for JJD to tell Dahlin to dump the puck out.
I find it funny that some are quick to point to Stephane Waite as one of Bergevin's best moves, having a great deal to do with Price being the player he is today.
But when comes the possibility of Bergevin hiring a bum like Lefevbre in a similar role, it's suddenly not a big deal and has no impact on players development or the games.
Can't wait for JJD to tell Dahlin to dump the puck out.
I can reassure you, we are not drafting a Russian player in the first round with Julien as our coach.I can't shake this re-occuring nightmare where we win the lottery for 2nd place and somehow we don't draft Svechnikov...Someone please reassure me.
I hope the habs will get better fast, but put you in the place of tavares, you probably want to join a good team if you are going to left the NYI. The habs is really on the top of your list ?