GDT: Off-Season Thread III - The Sound of Silence Edition

[Frk It]

I think the Sound of Settling is more appropriate. Plus it's a good jam.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

To think they even moved Jones too and look what they have there. We need to hire their scouts and development team. That should be who we acquire in our offseason.

and they just drafted Fabbro. I trust their scouts a lot more than Detroit's when it comes to finding quality defensemen. If Cholo was the better guy, they would have taken him instead.

 

[Perfect Human]

Nielsen and Demers

 

[mindfly]

From the trade-board

"Weber + Jones + Erat for Johansen + Subban + Forsberg"

Crazy when you think about it.

 

[Reddwit]

Alright guys, I've sorted it:

Overpay for Okposo, 7x7
Overpay for Nielsen 5.5x4 (pay more for one year fewer)
Sign Vanek as a band-aid. 3x2

Trade Nyquist/Tatar +Pulkkinen/Jurco + pick for Fowler
Trade Tatar/Nyquist + Dekeyser for Trouba + pick
Trade Smith for picks

Sign Mrazek to 3.5x2
Sign Trouba to 6x7
Sign March to 1x2

Vanek - Larkin - Okposo
Nielsen - Z - Abby
AA - Sheahan - Mantha
Miller - Glen - Jurco
Nosek

Kronwall - Trouba
Fowler - Green
Ericsson - March
XO

Mrazek
Howard

500k left in cap space, even with Franzen only giving us $1.5M in cap relief.

 

[sully6one]

Sign the NYI trio, Nielson, Okposo, and Martin. Trade Nyquist/Tatar, Mantha, Picks for good d

 

[vladdy16]

A handful of Hudler, Staal, Filpulla, Helm, Brouwer, Russel. I know most would absolutley hate it, and stop watching(yeah right), but I would be happier with the Wings than I've been since Hossa.

Despite the hype, the NHL is still a league where depth and vets are incredibly important. Chemistry and identity as well.

The Red Wings have a great opportunity to jump back into contention this summer. Fingers crossed.

 

[Classicnamesup]

Another swing and a miss.

 

[Shaman464]

Stamkos resigning before Friday is a godsend to every forward going to free agency. Think Staal, Nielsen, or Okposo are going for cheap? There were rumors of Okposo letting teams bid over him and getting between over 6 million a year. No thanks. Best to stand pat instead of paying the B squad A squad money.

 

[Shaman464]

A handful of Hudler, Staal, Filpulla, Helm, Brouwer, Russel. I know most would absolutley hate it, and stop watching(yeah right), but I would be happier with the Wings than I've been since Hossa.

Despite the hype, the NHL is still a league where depth and vets are incredibly important. Chemistry and identity as well.

The Red Wings have a great opportunity to jump back into contention this summer. Fingers crossed.

Yeah, no they don't. Not one of the players you mentioned brings them anywhere near what they lost by Datsyuk leaving, let alone makes up for the decline of the rest of the core.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Stamkos resigning before Friday is a godsend to every forward going to free agency. Think Staal, Nielsen, or Okposo are going for cheap? There were rumors of Okposo letting teams bid over him and getting between over 6 million a year. No thanks. Best to stand pat instead of paying the B squad A squad money.

Friday is going to be like the desperation Olympics. 10 GMs who cannot afford to miss the playoffs, 3 free agents. Who sinks, who swims? Tune in and see!

 

[mindfly]

Sign the NYI trio, Nielson, Okposo, and Martin. Trade Nyquist/Tatar, Mantha, Picks for good d

No no, we need to watch him a full season with GR (no leg breaks) to have a fair evaluation.. or more games in detroit.. he's only got what, 10 games in the NHL so far?

 

[vladdy16]

imo, the FA fwd crop is so deep, there will be players that are undervalued, maybe not Okposo or some of the C's, but there will be some great deals to be had.

 

[Reality Check]

I assume we have already blamed Holland for Stamkos resigning?

 

[Bench]

I assume we have already blamed Holland for Stamkos resigning?

No. Although now people are pretty scared what he'll do with all the free cap space.

 

[last_sd]

I assume we have already blamed Holland for Stamkos resigning?

I don't blame him for Stamkos going back to TBL. I would blame him if he panics and signs terrible deals on Friday.

 

[vladdy16]

Yeah, no they don't. Not one of the players you mentioned brings them anywhere near what they lost by Datsyuk leaving, let alone makes up for the decline of the rest of the core.

It's an 18 man game.

The core at this point are the guys under 27 yo. 40 and 55 (and 13 if he was still here) are damaged goods, that can't get worse than last year, and will be better off as support players on a deep, balanced team.

imo, we have an opportunity to build a deep and balanced team, with cap space and stamkos off the board.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

I assume we have already blamed Holland for Stamkos resigning?

No, but now I'm kind of sad we even moved Datsyuk's contract. I wish we would have just drafted Fabbro.

 

[mindfly]

It's an 18 man game.

The core at this point are the guys under 27 yo. 40 and 55 (and 13 if he was still here) are damaged goods, that can't get worse than last year, and will be better off as support players on a deep, balanced team.

imo, we have an opportunity to build a deep and balanced team, with cap space and stamkos off the board.

Depth is useless without top-notch elite core (look at chicago and pittsburgh)

 

[Heaton]

imo, the FA fwd crop is so deep, there will be players that are undervalued, maybe not Okposo or some of the C's, but there will be some great deals to be had.

No, there won't. This league is built on superstars, not depth players. The Wings have no elite talent, expecting the Wings to 'contend' after signing Hudler and Ladd is crazy.

 

[ZDH]

Still intrigued by Lucic, Okposo, Nielson, and Martin.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

Depth is useless without top-notch elite core (look at chicago and pittsburgh)

When you only have depth players filling out your entire lineup, you have no depth.

 

[Shaman464]

It's an 18 man game.

The core at this point are the guys under 27 yo. 40 and 55 (and 13 if he was still here) are damaged goods, that can't get worse than last year, and will be better off as support players on a deep, balanced team.

imo, we have an opportunity to build a deep and balanced team, with cap space and stamkos off the board.

And objective facts point to the fact you can't build a team from spare parts. This team needs an elite center and an elite defender. They lack the elite talent to even sniff contention.

 

[Bench]

No, but now I'm kind of sad we even moved Datsyuk's contract. I wish we would have just drafted Fabbro.

Agreed. The entire plan revolved around Stamkos for it to work.

 

[Reality Check]

No. Although now people are pretty scared what he'll do with all the free cap space.

True.

But this is said about nearly every GM and it appears Lucic may be off the board. Which is the scariest move to me.

On a side note, chalk up Stamkos as another guy who opted not to jump at the chance to play under Babcock.