Seravalli: NYR signing prospect Zac Jones

[pld459666]

But couldn’t they just sign him in 4 weeks and have him signed while not burning a year? If he’s willing to sign today he won’t be after the season? It’s possible he’s signing because they told him he’d get NHL games but the risk of losing him isn’t imminent. Could sign him in the offseason with promises of a good chance of roster spot next camp.

Both parties would have to sign that contract.

He's not obligated to sign it in 4 weeks.

that's the thing with leverage, use it when you have it.

He used it, I have no doubt that the Rangers will bridge his ass next go around.

 

[pld459666]

this is also a potential show-casing for a deal (with him being included) in this summer.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I'd imagine he gets in over K'Andre for PP2. Kee's skillset not really suited to the PP aside from the bomb he has, but he doesnt use it enough

But who will mishandle and lose the puck at the blue line on the PP with no one around him?

 

[Calad]

But who will mishandle and lose the puck at the blue line on the PP with no one around him?

Feel free to throw your hat in the ring

 

[cwede]

Stupid to burn an ELC year

not really,
he very likely spends next 2 full seasons in Hartford (rather than at UMass),
his next contract wont be a concern

and ain't worth it to sweat his 3rd contract before his 2st starts ...

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

not really,
he very likely spends next 2 full seasons in Hartford (rather than at UMass),
his next contract wont be a concern

and ain't worth it to sweat his 3rd contract before his 2st starts ...

Perhaps, then again maybe he breaks out like Fox and then is looking for big money a year earlier than he could have. I would rather he have stayed in college.

 

[borekmarkj]

What does this signing mean for a play like Ryan Lindgren or Libor Hajek? Do the Rangers make a move that includes the departure of a young DMAN or two this summer? How about Nils Lundkvist or Braden Schneider?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Jones and Laf in for Trouba and K'Andre

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Lol. They play different sides.

Jones won’t be taking anything from Lundkvist.

They play different sides but Fox, Lindgren, Miller, and (sadly) Trouba are locked into the top 4 going forward. How are we going to fit Lundkvist, Jones, and Schneider? Even if we dump Smith and Hajek

 

[GAGLine]

What does this signing mean for a play like Ryan Lindgren or Libor Hajek? Do the Rangers make a move that includes the departure of a young DMAN or two this summer? How about Nils Lundkvist or Braden Schneider?

Doubtful. We don't even know if Jones is actually ready for the NHL. He'll get some games, but if he isn't ready, he could spend all of next year in Hartford.

At some point we may end up moving a dman, but there's no rush.

 

[TGWL]

This is great because he gets experience now and then if there are things he needs to address, he has the offseason to come back strong. Some guy named Leetch did this back in 1988. I think that worked out well. Obviously not comparing Jones to Leetch, but this also help stagger when the ELC’s end. Unless Jones absolutely goes off, he’ll likely not get the service time and numbers that will see him get a huge deal.

I think all players would do that. It's smart for the player. The business side of this is where it gets tricky for the organization. There wasn't a cap back then. Burning an ELC year is much different now. I never had an issue with burning a year off an ELC unless you think that player is going to be a superstar, commanding a high contract immediately.

 

[GAGLine]

They play different sides but Fox, Lindgren, Miller, and (sadly) Trouba are locked into the top 4 going forward. How are we going to fit Lundkvist, Jones, and Schneider? Even if we dump Smith and Hajek

None of Lundkvist, Jones or Schneider are NHL players yet. They could all spend time in the AHL. It's not a problem until it's actually a problem. When they start pushing the top 4 for playing time, then we can worry about what we are going to do.

 

[OrangePMD]

What does this signing mean for a play like Ryan Lindgren or Libor Hajek? Do the Rangers make a move that includes the departure of a young DMAN or two this summer? How about Nils Lundkvist or Braden Schneider?

Hajek will battle for a spot with the rookies. Lindgren is a top4 defenseman and 1st in NYR LHD depth chart, he isn't going anywhere until someone takes his spot. Lundkvist and Schneider are RHD.

 

[borekmarkj]

Hajek will battle for a spot with the rookies. Lindgren is a top4 defenseman and 1st in NYR LHD depth chart, he isn't going anywhere until someone takes his spot. Lundkvist and Schneider are RHD.

RHD: Fox, Trouba are both untouchable
LHD: Key is untouchable
There is a clear log jam at the Defensive position for the Rangers soon on the horizon. The Rangers will likely need to move Nils so they don't lose him for nothing. I feel as though Schneider might be safe and Hajek is another question. Could we see a specific deal with Buffalo including Nils?

 

[borekmarkj]

Doubtful. We don't even know if Jones is actually ready for the NHL. He'll get some games, but if he isn't ready, he could spend all of next year in Hartford.

At some point we may end up moving a dman, but there's no rush.

Im thinking of a specific trade with Buffalo.

 

[FlyguyOX]

People ITT underrating Jones greatly.

 

[OrangePMD]

RHD: Fox, Trouba are both untouchable
LHD: Key is untouchable
There is a clear log jam at the Defensive position for the Rangers soon on the horizon. The Rangers will likely need to move Nils so they don't lose him for nothing. I feel as though Schneider might be safe and Hajek is another question. Could we see a specific deal with Buffalo including Nils?

I want to see an actual NHL log jam, not a prospect log jam, before moving anyone. As it stands, I see an open spot for a RHD next season, and a potential opening at LHD. Not all prospects make it. Some will merely disappoint, some will bust harder than we ever though was possible. And some will be better then expected.

If Nils for some reason doesn't want to come and battle for that open RHD spot next season ( doesn't sign before the draft ), then we'll have to look into trading him. But we aren't there yet.

But sure, Rangers do have several D prospects that could be included in "specific" trades.

 

[One Winged Angel]

I think all players would do that. It's smart for the player. The business side of this is where it gets tricky for the organization. There wasn't a cap back then. Burning an ELC year is much different now. I never had an issue with burning a year off an ELC unless you think that player is going to be a superstar, commanding a high contract immediately.

And I don’t think Jones will. Could he be one? Sure, but not immediately. That’s why I mentioned that it will stagger the ELC’s.

Gorton has to be absolutely cognizant of the contracts.

 

[egelband]

Perhaps, then again maybe he breaks out like Fox and then is looking for big money a year earlier than he could have. I would rather he have stayed in college.

This would be my best-case scenario.

 

[Kocur Dill]

Chris Peters saying this could impact Lundkvist's decision to sign with NYR.

Why would it. Jones is LD, Lundqvist is RD.

 

[QJL]

They play different sides but Fox, Lindgren, Miller, and (sadly) Trouba are locked into the top 4 going forward. How are we going to fit Lundkvist, Jones, and Schneider? Even if we dump Smith and Hajek

There are 7-8 defenseman on a team. We'll have several names on that list locked into contracts for 2-3 years. We have plenty of time to figure it out.

Lundkvist should believe that he's readier than any name outside of that top 4, which he is. We're talking about a player who projects as a potential top pairing defenseman. He's not going to sign elsewhere because of a fear Jones & Schneider are going to keep him down the depth chart. He'll be signed by the Rangers within a month of eligibility.

 

[bernmeister]

mult=quote did not engage.

We are not dealing Nils L.
We will see about moving Trouba to FL and it will go nowhere this time.

The mathematical move is to trade Lindgren + Hajek + Rykov + pick + one of Strome or Buch
to OTT
for
Sanderson

replaces Lindy = expiring elc -> new rfa
with theoretical upgrade who is elc
meanwhile at LD NY now has after K'A M, Robertson, Reunanen and Jones.
Sanderson would be developing one more year before he is in the equation.
Likely deal Reunanen
We carry all 4 [K'A M, Robertson, Jones. and Sanderson] providing depth.

Sens do this for instant Depth D and F help + pick

Right side would remain Fox, Nils L, Trouba then Schneider

 

[MarkMessyay11]

Chris Peters saying this could impact Lundkvist's decision to sign with NYR.

MarkMessyay11 saying Chris Peters is trying to generate clicks on a day where he isn't getting many...

 

[Rangers79]

Has nothing to do with Lundkvist. Hajek is not good and Smith won't be here next year. Jones and Lundkvist easily move in. Reunanen as the 7th.

 

[Anthony5967]

The people saying he’s here for a weight lifting and strength program and probably won’t play till next year, he’s the same size as Fox. They have weight rooms in college.