Confirmed Trade: [NSH/NJD] Vernon Fiddler for 2017 4th Round Pick

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Huh, maybe we can trade Johnny malkin

that nickname stuck? he had that with us

 

[maplepred]

Guess this means we are out of the duchene sweepstakes with this stud.

 

[dredeye]

at those stoked to be getting a 4th round pick[/QUOTE

Is that how you felt last off season when your leafs loaded up on picks? Why not be excited to get a pick for scrub. I'd be very happy

 

[CorgisPer60]

This gives me hope that Stafford can be traded for a 3rd or a 2nd in 2017 to a playoff team.

 

[GeauxPreds]

Only a fourth to bring in some veteran leadership/depth for the playoff push. Can't be too upset here.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Good luck Vern, hope you do well in the playoffs.

 

[King Weber]

Lose a diddler, add a Fiddler.


Either way, only a 4th rounder so don't really care

 

[Soundgarden]

Really? Giving up a fourth for an over the hill nostalgia player, I'd rather have the pick.

 

[Zippy316]

Except for all the GM's that watched him play well at the World Cup just last summer.

Clueless as usual.

I don't agree with him, but Fiddler pulled in a first mainly from familiarity with Poile/Nashville. Bellemare lacks that type of connection.

 

[Skiffer55]

I don't agree with him, but Fiddler pulled in a first mainly from familiarity with Poile/Nashville. Bellemare lacks that type of connection.

Damn, I heard he only went for a 4th. Nashville gave up a first?!?!

 

[Baemon Severson*]

Except for all the GM's that watched him play well at the World Cup just last summer.

Clueless as usual.

Did I personally attack or insult you? Show a bit of respect to your fellow poster, boyo.

I'm talking about familiar in the sense of having coached/managed the player. Mangers and coaches put a lot of stock in the type of guy a player is and Fiddler has a fantastic reputation around the league. I don't think the 30 GMs sitting at home during the two week tournament during the summer have the same relationship Poile did with Fiddler for 5+ years. Who else around the league has a similar relationship with PEB?

 

[57special]

Fiddler was good as recently as last year. Hmmm...

 

[Tripod]

Did I personally attack or insult you? Show a bit of respect to your fellow poster, boyo.

I'm talking about familiar in the sense of having coached/managed the player. Mangers and coaches put a lot of stock in the type of guy a player is and Fiddler has a fantastic reputation around the league. I don't think the 30 GMs sitting at home during the two week tournament during the summer have the same relationship Poile did with Fiddler for 5+ years. Who else around the league has a similar relationship with PEB?

Respect is earned. You have done nothing to earn it....and you know why.

Point remains, Belle played very well in the WCOH against the top players in the world. He has been in the league 3 years, I think GM's know who he is. If they don't, they are poor at their job.

But good on Shero getting a pick for him.

 

[Zippy316]

Damn, I heard he only went for a 4th. Nashville gave up a first?!?!

The way Fiddler has played, he shouldn't have pulled in more than a 6th.

A 4th is great when the Devils have three or four other options they can play instead of him and not miss a beat.

 

[EdAVSfan]

I seriously had no idea fiddler was still playing in the NHL.

 

[Baemon Severson*]

Respect is earned. You have done nothing to earn it....and you know why.

Point remains, Belle played very well in the WCOH against the top players in the world. He has been in the league 3 years, I think GM's know who he is. If they don't, they are poor at their job.

But good on Shero getting a pick for him.

Have I ever personally insulted you?

Nope, the point does not remain. I think every GM knows most players in the league. However, they only know a handful very well. Poile knows Fiddler very well, hence, the trade. Not sure where the disconnect is.

 

[Skiffer55]

The way Fiddler has played, he shouldn't have pulled in more than a 6th.

A 4th is great when the Devils have three or four other options they can play instead of him and not miss a beat.

Hell I'm just hoping this makes it more likely a contender pays a 7th for Thorburn's invaluable "grit" and "leadership" skills. (and they ignore the insane amount of idiot penalties he takes)

 

[HenriquesJawLine]

Except for all the GM's that watched him play well at the World Cup just last summer.

Clueless as usual.

He's never been a good faceoff man, bad possession player and is the worst 5 on 5 player in the league. Bellemare is not good.

 

[Rebels57]

Good asset management by Shero.

Hoping the Flyers can get a 3rd for Bellemare based on this.

 

[Baemon Severson*]

Good asset management by Shero.

Hoping the Flyers can get a 3rd for Bellemare based on this.

I wouldn't get your hopes up, Anthony.

Last year Fiddler put up 22 pts in 82 games

Bellemare has 32 pts in 208 games.

At least Fiddler was good as recently as last year. Bellemare has never been very useful

 

[Dolemite]

Maybe he was. No longer anymore though.

Wish him luck, but he fell off a cliff this year.

That seems to be pretty common with the Devils line up this season (ex Schneider's regression)

 

[Zippy316]

That seems to be pretty common with the Devils line up this season (ex Schneider's regression)

A lot of the team struggled early on, but Fiddler just didn't seem to bring what he brought in previous places here. To be fair, he was flanked by some pretty awful fourth liners, but it doesn't look like that will change in Nashville with their injuries.

I think he's better than what he showed in NJ, but I didn't think a GM would take that gamble for anything more than like a 6th or 7th round pick.

A fourth is just gravy.

 

[Dolemite]

A lot of the team struggled early on, but Fiddler just didn't seem to bring what he brought in previous places here. To be fair, he was flanked by some pretty awful fourth liners, but it doesn't look like that will change in Nashville with their injuries.

I think he's better than what he showed in NJ, but I didn't think a GM would take that gamble for anything more than like a 6th or 7th round pick.

A fourth is just gravy.

It's more than likely a case of not fitting into their system. Fiddler is a role player. He's not gonna bring points. He's not going to rack up lots of points. He's a great leader and tough as nails on the ice.

 

[Zippy316]

It's more than likely a case of not fitting into their system. Fiddler is a role player. He's not gonna bring points. He's not going to rack up lots of points. He's a great leader and tough as nails on the ice.

I know that, but he wasn't bringing his usual game.

He was terrible on the PK and he didn't make the fourth line any better than guys like Kalinin or a rookie we brought up.

 

[falconski]

that nickname stuck? he had that with us

I think it's just a natural nickname for him


The number of breakaways he had his first season with us that went nowhere was amazing