Blue Jays Discussion: Now is the winter of our (probable) discontent

[Dr.Funk]

Probably we are not going to see Bautista and Morales back with this club, just wondering how the Jays going to fill those spots

- Internally
- Free agency
- Via Trade

Ohtani

 

[Kurtz]

So Tinnish went from an Assistant GM with us to VP of scouting for the Braves...isn't that a demotion for him?

 

[MJ65]

Ohtani

I was looking for some input - but that's fine

 

[Kurtz]

Third Base Looks Like a Buyer’s Market | FanGraphs Baseball

Sup with your mans.

He makes a good argument on why we should trade JD this off-season rather than the deadline, but I think he too easily dismisses Boston and maybe even NYY as potential suitors.

 

[TNCHL]

Morales for Cash Considerations is what i hope happens

 

[Discoverer]

So Tinnish went from an Assistant GM with us to VP of scouting for the Braves...isn't that a demotion for him?

The guy he's replacing was Assistant GM, so they're probably just giving him that job and changing the title to VP so they can claim it's a promotion.

 

[The Nemesis]

I love you, Dr. Zaius!

 

[TF97]

Morales for Cash Considerations is what i hope happens

No chance you’re moving Morales for “cash considerations” unless you eat half of his contract and you’re acquiring a single dollar.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Dave Cameron of FanGraphs recently made a case that the Cardinals trading for Josh Donaldson might be smarter than attempting to trade for Giancarlo Stanton. His pitch? Trade three-time All-Star Matt Carpenter and infielder Jedd Gyorko for the Blue Jays' three-time All-Star third baseman.

I'm pro-Donaldson. I think he would be a great fit in St. Louis. I love his game.

But ...

I can't get on board with this one -- even if the Blue Jays dropped the company line that says Donaldson isn't going anywhere.

This deal would ask the Cardinals to give up a combined six years of Carpenter and Gyorko for one year of Donaldson, who will have the chance to enter free agency after the upcoming season. Sure, the Cardinals could try to re-sign Donaldson after his rental year. But that's no guarantee.

The move would not declutter a stuffed outfield. Instead it would leave the Cardinals with first base base options of Jose Martinez and Luke Voit, players
with promise but without track records that prove without a doubt they are ready for the assignment.

I know opinions on Carpenter, who is under contract through 2020 if the team picks up its option that season, run hot and cold around here. Carpenter fatigue is a real thing; just read the chats at STLtoday.com. I'm not one of the folks who thinks Carpenter can never be moved. But even Carpenter's critics -- and those who dismiss his shoulder injury last season -- should pause at the notion of giving up three seasons of Carpenter and three seasons of Gyorko for one year of Donaldson.

 

[phillipmike]

Perfect, we keep JD and they keep Carpenter and Gykro.

Cant be a concept they dont understand as a few years ago they traded 6 years of Jenkins and 4 years of Shelby Miller for 1 year of Jason Heyward. And we are talking about player who is much better than Heyward.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Free Agent Fit: Does Brandon Morrow make sense for the Blue Jays?
Morrow hasn’t started a game since May of 2015, but he sure looked like an elite reliever last year. His fastball averaged 97.7 m.p.h., a career high, and he touched 100 m.p.h. on occasion. To complement that velocity, Morrow has relied extensively on a hard cutter since moving back to the bullpen and the combination has proved successful.

MLB Trade Rumors signing prediction
Three years, $24 million, Rockies

 

[Habsfan18]

 

[Discoverer]

Ew.

I mean... Atlanta paying all of his salary and taking nothing back in return and the Jays switching him to a pure platoon role wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Average defense and no power or speed, but there's nothing wrong with a .360+ OBP from a cheap OF on the strong side of a platoon.

Still, though... ew.

 

[TF97]

If they can get Markakis at a reduced rate to split time in one of the corner OF spots, I’m all for it.

 

[phillipmike]

If Atlanta takes on all or most of his salary, we give up nothing of consequence and he is a platoon/4th OF then im interested. Roughly a .360 OBP, has played 145 games or more in all his seasons except for 1, excellent K/BB, 3 seasons in a row with 38+ doubles, adequate base runner and defense in RF (prefer to just use him in LF). Anything over Zeke would be great.

 

[theaub]

The Buck Martinez Get Up alarm clock is all I've ever wanted really

284 days until September 9

 

[TootooTrain]

Markakis is one player that caught my eye in a positive way over his years in Baltimore. I'd welcome the addition.

Plus his uniform # is 22. My fav. Sorry Maile.

 

[phillipmike]

Blue Jays to honour Halladay on Opening Day - Article - TSN

The Toronto Blue Jays announced Wednesday they will honour Roy Halladay on Opening Day next season, commemorating his life and storied career during a pregame ceremony.

The Jays open the season at home against the New York Yankees March 29.

The team announced further details of the ceremony, as well as additional honours in Halladay's memory, will be announced in the coming months.

Halladay died earlier this month when his small sports plane crashed into the Gulf of Mexico.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Markakis probably wouldn't be that bad a stop gap. He really likes hitting in the rogers centre (1.340 OPS over the last 3 years and I remember him killing the jays quite a bit back in his Orioles days)

 

[Discoverer]

Markakis is one player that caught my eye in a positive way over his years in Baltimore. I'd welcome the addition.

Plus his uniform # is 22. My fav. Sorry Maile.

Markakis isn't the same player he was during his peak in Baltimore. He's been an average-at-best player for almost a decade now and he's been nothing more than a platoon/bench outfielder in Atlanta.

 

[TootooTrain]

Markakis isn't the same player he was during his peak in Baltimore. He's been an average-at-best player for almost a decade now and he's been nothing more than a platoon/bench outfielder in Atlanta.

I'm aware of his current level of play. I wouldn't be against it is all I'm saying.

 

[zeke]

Markakis. lmao.

so perfect.

 

[zeke]

Anything over Zeke would be great.

they'd still keep carrera.

 

[BlueForever75]

Markakis wouldn't be the worst acquisition. He would be a good platoon player for one of the corner OF spots. Maybe he and Hernandez.

 

[Discoverer]

they'd still keep carrera.

Who said anything about Carrera?