Confirmed Trade: [NJD/SJS] Meier (50%), Harrington, Ibragimov, Emond, Hatakka, ‘24 5th for ‘23 1st, cond ‘24 1st, Johnsson, Okhotiuk, Mukhamadullin, Zetterlund, 24 7th

[SteveCangialosi123]

Unforced error from the Devils. All the defensive posts pointing to isolated stretches of solid xGF% play miss the point. In the market you pay for points. If just putting up good underlying stats was enough than Michael Bunting would be much richer. Smart teams acquire guys like that cheaply, not like this. At no point in his Devils tenure has Meier looked like he'll produce enough to justify this deal.

9 goals in 21 games last year?

 

[EdJovanovski]

Massive regret taking this guy in fantasy because I trusted all the “experts” who say how great he is over my own eyes. I’ve always thought he was one of the most overrated players in the league, and he’s looked absolutely horrible ever since the trade.

 

[njdevil26]

Christ I'm a little tired of the Meier bashing every game. He's going through it right now for sure. He was injured when he was traded to the Devils, got a concussion in the playoffs, and had an injury this season that's coming back from. Of course he's playing like crap but the daily dissection of this trade and chalking it up to a bust not even a half of a season into an 8 year extension is just such a waste of time.

He'll be fine.

 

[Voight]

Massive regret taking this guy in fantasy because I trusted all the “experts” who say how great he is over my own eyes. I’ve always thought he was one of the most overrated players in the league, and he’s looked absolutely horrible ever since the trade.

That makes two of us

 

[Juxtaposer]

Sharks fans: Is he really even that good or did the Sharks know he was overrated?

I, as a Devils fan, propose a trade back. We even got him signed for y'all, he's yours now.

He was fantastic with the Sharks. It might just be a case of a guy who fit really well in one system and got bucketloads of ice time and puck touches because there wasn’t many guys who could do it as well as he did…

Meier had phenomenal chemistry with Hertl (they were menaces on the cycle, just pure dominance) and Karlsson loved to pass to Meier because he was one of the few guys who could actually receive a pass.

To answer your question, I have no idea what’s going on. He was legitimately great as a Shark and I’m genuinely shocked how poor he looks with the Devils. If you want a cycling power center… we’ll give you Hertl for like, Mercer and Casey.

 

[Sendhelplease]

Timo has always been a bit of a streaky player and based on the skating metrics posted above it does seem like he is playing at not 100%. I am sure that he will get back to his old self and be a 30+ goal power forward for NJ.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Massive regret taking this guy in fantasy because I trusted all the “experts” who say how great he is over my own eyes. I’ve always thought he was one of the most overrated players in the league, and he’s looked absolutely horrible ever since the trade.

I took him too

Though I dumped him a few weeks back, nobody picked him back up.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Christ I'm a little tired of the Meier bashing every game. He's going through it right now for sure. He was injured when he was traded to the Devils, got a concussion in the playoffs, and had an injury this season that's coming back from. Of course he's playing like crap but the daily dissection of this trade and chalking it up to a bust not even a half of a season into an 8 year extension is just such a waste of time.

He'll be fine.

He's been going through it since Feb of last year, that is almost 1 full calendar year.

He is on pace to score less than 15 goals, and on pace for around 30 points this season. Yea no cause for concern to a guy who just got a nice paycheck for the next 8 years, at least not for him.

 

[Schennanigans]

I don’t get why sports have guaranteed contracts. If we don’t perform at work we’re fired and no pay. A team should be able to void contracts if performance isn’t shown.

 

[Sendhelplease]

I don’t get why sports have guaranteed contracts. If we don’t perform at work we’re fired and no pay. A team should be able to void contracts if performance isn’t shown.

If a person signs a contract and fulfills the conditions of the contract than they should be compensated according to the agreed upon terms of the contract. That is true in hockey and it should be true universally. The owners do not deserve more money.

 

[Dr Quincy]

I don’t get why sports have guaranteed contracts. If we don’t perform at work we’re fired and no pay. A team should be able to void contracts if performance isn’t shown.

At your job, if someone offers you more money or a better situation you can leave with no strings attached.

Do you propose the same right for athletes?

 

[TS Quint]

If a person signs a contract and fulfills the conditions of the contract than they should be compensated according to the agreed upon terms of the contract. That is true in hockey and it should be true universally. The owners do not deserve more money.

Im not saying im agreeing or disageeing with this idea but........Owners get 50% of HRR. If they were able to cancel contracts it wouldn't make them any more or less money.

 

[BelovedIsles]

I don’t get why sports have guaranteed contracts. If we don’t perform at work we’re fired and no pay. A team should be able to void contracts if performance isn’t shown.

What happens if a player performs above his pay? Could get real murky.

 

[Peasy]

What happens if a player performs above his pay? Could get real murky.

Thats why you have both team and player opt out options like in real sport leagues.

 

[NYRKing]

How are Okhotiuk and Shakir doing? Looking like an immense quality haul for Meier by SJ if these two become regulars.

 

[TGWL]

I don’t get why sports have guaranteed contracts. If we don’t perform at work we’re fired and no pay. A team should be able to void contracts if performance isn’t shown.

Well, I can clock in at my job and then by lunch time tell my employer I'm done with this shit. Should players also be able to walk out on their own team if another organization offers them a better deal?

 

[Gliff]

Doesn’t he always start slow and turn it on and have a crazy month?

 

[MOGlLNY]

Doesn’t he always start slow and turn it on and have a crazy month?

It’s almost January lol

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

At your job, if someone offers you more money or a better situation you can leave with no strings attached.

Do you propose the same right for athletes?

You are implying this happens to regular people all the time when it couldn't be further from the truth.

 

[BrokenFace]

I don’t get why sports have guaranteed contracts. If we don’t perform at work we’re fired and no pay. A team should be able to void contracts if performance isn’t shown.

Then should players be able to void contracts if they're outperforming their compensation? If guaranteed contracts disappear, prepare for players to hold out for contract renegotiations even when they're in the middle of their contract.

7/8 year contacts are still too long. It should be 6/7 years but players hit free agency a year earlier. And if we paid young players more, there would be less overall cap space available to overpay older free agents on long contracts.

 

[Peasy]

Then should players be able to void contracts if they're outperforming their compensation? If guaranteed contracts disappear, prepare for players to hold out for contract renegotiations even when they're in the middle of their contract.

7/8 year contacts are still too long. It should be 6/7 years but players hit free agency a year earlier. And if we paid young players more, there would be less overall cap space available to overpay older free agents on long contracts.

How come the NBA doesnt have this issue?

 

[BrokenFace]

How come the NBA doesnt have this issue?

NBA contracts are guaranteed. Only NFL contracts aren't and that is the only league in which players will hold out while they're still under contract as far as I know.

 

[TheBeard]

Timo no doubt gets in his own head and when he struggles he really struggles. But when he’s mentally straight he’s about as ideal a power forward as you could want. He’ll get his shit together.

 

[Bruce Granville]

I don’t get why sports have guaranteed contracts. If we don’t perform at work we’re fired and no pay. A team should be able to void contracts if performance isn’t shown.

- Nobody‘s paying hundreds of dollars to watch you do your job.
- Athletes are more like artists.

 

[Guttersniped]

How come the NBA doesnt have this issue?

Because NBA contracts are guaranteed too? All of them other than the short term 10-day/ 3 game contracts.

The major sport that doesn’t have
guaranteed contracts for all players is the NFL. Only some players have them by negotiating for them.