Value of: Nick Leddy

[CREW99AW]

Pulock is a solid offensive defensemen that plays like an idiot in his own end. 5m is hardly a bargain by any stretch mate. You can spin that however you like.

Barzal doesn't score goals so he isn't worth as much? Lol so the fact that he creates goals is worth nothing?

Yes. One of he top pairing dmen,on one of the best blue lines in the league is a disaster in his own end.


What a clue less take.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Pulock is a solid offensive defensemen that plays like an idiot in his own end. 5m is hardly a bargain by any stretch mate. You can spin that however you like.

Barzal doesn't score goals so he isn't worth as much? Lol so the fact that he creates goals is worth nothing?

Great take

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Great take

Pulock is getting paid for his offense, not his horrendous defense, him taking "less" is maybe not as much of a big deal as they want to make it out to be when Pelech is the beast on that pair that lets Pulock do his thing offensively without worrying about how below average he is in his own end and they can save the "I bet you don't watch the team at all"...same division, we do.

Yes. One of he top pairing dmen,on one of the best blue lines in the league is a disaster in his own end.


What a clue less take.

What a weird way to diminish the incredible work Pelech does.

Pulock is the isles top pairing RHD.Eats up probably the most mins on the blue line.

Most of the armchair HF GMs , have been insisting the isles would not get him signed for less then $6m- $7m per.
But, yeah tell yourself that $5m per is not leaving $ on the table.

Because he's their top offensive defenseman that is paired with their top defensive defenseman, you get how that works? Well, no, you clearly do not.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Very likely the comparable this time around is Laine/Point. 2-3 year deal in the 6's. Isles can't afford to do a 5 year deal and even then I highly doubt he breaks 10.

Point is not a good comparison. He took less to keep that stacked Tampa offense together, he's one of the straws that stirs that drink. For the Islanders, Barzal is the main one, he's one of the most important players offensively there, whereas Point up until that point was still 4th-5th most important player on that squad after Kucherov, Stamkos, Hedman, and Vasilievskiy. Barzal has been an elite playmaker the last few seasons, him scoring will happen, but the kid should be at the least, taking a 2yr bridge deal at 8m/yr as the lowest based on his career so far. I mean, is he not your franchise player?

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I mean, is he not your franchise player?

It's a toss-up between Andrew Ladd and Leo Komarov.

 

[McJedi]

Doesn't matter, they're not trading him. They traded Toews because the return was better than trading Leddy. They'll bury Ladd, Hickey and Komarov to save 3.075. Probably will have to give up a first in order to dump Boychuk but that will give them enough to sign Barzal, Greene and Martin. Then they're done.

Now that Pulock is signed I expect all of the above to happen in the next week or so. We'll see.

I love the Islanders. Were my boyhood team. But there is 0.0000% chance they’ll be able to trade the last two years of Boychuks $6mm contract for just a first round pick. That will cost quite a bit more to unload. Add a high level prospect. There just isn’t enough cap space available to trade him into without significant pain.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It's a toss-up between Andrew Ladd and Leo Komarov.

They've never been the same since Grabovski left.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I love the Islanders. Were my boyhood team. But there is 0.0000% chance they’ll be able to trade the last two years of Boychuks $6mm contract for just a first round pick. That will cost quite a bit more to unload. Add a high level prospect. There just isn’t enough cap space available to trade him into without significant pain.

I think Bellows is the closest thing to a high level prospect that would go in a cap move...

...and he's bound for Minnesota for Parise

 

[mouser]

It's not that bad lol. 3 years x 5.5M per. Stop the overreaction.

Yes, first round pick bad. But not two first round picks plus Bolduc bad.

I'd maybe add a throw in prospect like Ishakov in with a first round pick, but for a bottom feeder like Detroit, getting what's effectively a free first round pick is quite the haul.

Ladd’s contract and performance are roughly two 1sts bad right now. Can sort out small additions, subtractions, retention to tweak that.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Ladd’s contract and performance are roughly two 1sts bad right now. Can sort out small additions, subtractions, retention to tweak that.

Two 1sts is what wouldn't get you hung up on.

Ladd is god awful AND he has 3 more years left. His contract is so awful, even buying him out has literally no beneficial value as it just extends that dumpster fire of a contract another 3yrs and the first 3yrs is barely a savings of 800k per year for a cap hit.

I am shocked he hasn't manifested a rash yet. I wonder if Chicago wants an old pal back, since they started to pout when friends were moved again, lol.

 

[CREW99AW]

What a weird way to diminish the incredible work Pelech does.
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I am not diminishing Pelech's work by saying Pulock's a fine top pairing RHD,whose $5m per salary is a team friendly salary.

Don't act as the isles could simply move Pulock off the top pairing and replace him with one of Mayfield/Boychuk/ young Dobson and not miss a beat.

 

[elitepete]

Pulock is getting paid for his offense, not his horrendous defense, him taking "less" is maybe not as much of a big deal as they want to make it out to be when Pelech is the beast on that pair that lets Pulock do his thing offensively without worrying about how below average he is in his own end and they can save the "I bet you don't watch the team at all"...same division, we do.


What a weird way to diminish the incredible work Pelech does.


Because he's their top offensive defenseman that is paired with their top defensive defenseman, you get how that works? Well, no, you clearly do not.

Pulock is horrendous on defense? Based on what? He seems above average on that side of the puck based on watching him alone.

 

[ole ole]

Isles said Leddy won't be traded after the recent ECF playoff run and after trading Toews

That's fair enough. The poster i was responding too was using a quote that was over a yr ago.

 

[SI90]

Pulock is a solid offensive defensemen that plays like an idiot in his own end. 5m is hardly a bargain by any stretch mate. You can spin that however you like.

Barzal doesn't score goals so he isn't worth as much? Lol so the fact that he creates goals is worth nothing?

is this for real? One of the best things about Pulock is his 2way game. As drafted as an offensive defenseman and hasn’t put up crazy offense but has been excellent defensively.

 

[Sparksrus3]

Oops, sorry, was looking for the Leddy Threaddy. stay safe all.

 

[Sheva7]

Pulock is getting paid for his offense, not his horrendous defense, him taking "less" is maybe not as much of a big deal as they want to make it out to be when Pelech is the beast on that pair that lets Pulock do his thing offensively without worrying about how below average he is in his own end and they can save the "I bet you don't watch the team at all"...same division, we do.


What a weird way to diminish the incredible work Pelech does.


Because he's their top offensive defenseman that is paired with their top defensive defenseman, you get how that works? Well, no, you clearly do not.

Woah woah wait a sec lol

"Horrendous defense"???

Wasn't expecting Ray Charles to ever be posting on a hockey board lol jk

This is too hot a take, even for me lol

Sure Pelech is amazing but Pulock ain't to slouch buddy.

I REALLY think you should go back and re-watch the games a little more closely.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Woah woah wait a sec lol

"Horrendous defense"???

Wasn't expecting Ray Charles to ever be posting on a hockey board lol jk

This is too hot a take, even for me lol

Sure Pelech is amazing but Pulock ain't to slouch buddy.

I REALLY think you should go back and re-watch the games a little more closely.

I did, but sure, let some homers freak out.

 

[IslesBro715]

I did, but sure, let some homers freak out.

credibility is lost, just leave.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

credibility is lost, just leave.

Nah, there's a lot of credibility but being blind to it is the issue when it's your boy.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Nah, there's a lot of credibility but being blind to it is the issue when it's your boy.

I'm listening, but give me an example of something he does in he own end that makes him an idiot.

 

[Sparksrus3]

I'm listening, but give me an example of something he does in he own end that makes him an idiot.

maybe he is thinking of the James Wisniewski / Sheena Avery incident of 2010. Wis was an idiot in his own end on that day.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

maybe he is thinking of the James Wisniewski / Sheena Avery incident of 2010. Wis was an idiot in his own end on that day.

Maybe rewatch the entire Tampa vs Isles series.

 

[IslesBro715]

maybe he is thinking of the James Wisniewski / Sheena Avery incident of 2010. Wis was an idiot in his own end on that day.

He's been watching Jack Johnson and Kris Letang for too long. He doesn't know what good defense looks like anymore.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Maybe rewatch the entire Tampa vs Isles series.

That's not how this works, I asked you for examples. But you conveniently responded to someone else.

And if I rewatched the entire Tampa vs. Isles series I would see Toews and Mayfield as the idiots in their own end. I would also notice that the entire team was significantly out played and were hanging on for dear life. So, bad example.

 

[Hostile Offer]

It's not that bad lol. 3 years x 5.5M per. Stop the overreaction.

Yes, first round pick bad. But not two first round picks plus Bolduc bad.

I'd maybe add a throw in prospect like Ishakov in with a first round pick, but for a bottom feeder like Detroit, getting what's effectively a free first round pick is quite the haul.

You'd have to get really creative to unload Ladd without taking any cap back. Even teams who are sitting on piles of cap space like Detroit probably aren't thrilled to add a $5.5M buyout proof boat anchor on their roster for the next three years especially in a flat cap world. You can't call that "free" by any stretch. Unless there is a medical issue forcing Ladd on a LTIR you will really need a lot to entice someone taking his contract. Heck, the Rangers already paid a 2nd to unload ONE year of Marc Staal.