NHL suspends season due to COVID-19 pandemic part two

[Grizwald]

Trumps just going to end it and if you die you die

It's unconscionable the moronic Racist-and-Chief down south is still calling COVID-19 the "Chinese Flu". I swear the scariest thing for me about this pandemic is this lunatic spreading misinformation throughout the USA that will negatively affect the lives of millions of people.. F*ck you Trump #TRUMP-VIRUS

 

[The Lewler]

The US GDP may shrink 20% -50% this quarter .

That’s insane .

But yes 18 months of lockdown is not economically sustainable so pressure is going to continue to mount as time rolls on to get economic activity going again .

We still need more data on the current situation and on treatment efficacy of what’s being tried .

 

[Sens]

Anthony Cuomo wants to put a plan in place and start working
Thinks since 98% don’t die we can isolate the vulnerable and move on with our lives

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Anthony Cuomo wants to put a plan in place and start working
Thinks since 98% don’t die we can isolate the vulnerable and move on with our lives

This is how it should have been done. Isolate those most at risk and slowly re-open things.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Anthony Cuomo wants to put a plan in place and start working
Thinks since 98% don’t die we can isolate the vulnerable and move on with our lives

I don't know how anyone can take this line of thinking. The problem with this virus isn't just mortality rate, it's the significant number of serious and critical symptoms that require ICU treatment. They would have to build their ICU capacity to an unknown multiple of current levels. The hospitals being overwhelmed with no known effective treatments is the most significant problem right now.

 

[Sens]

I don't know how anyone can take this line of thinking. The problem with this virus isn't just mortality rate, it's the significant number of serious and critical symptoms that require ICU treatment. They would have to build their ICU capacity to an unknown multiple of current levels. The hospitals being overwhelmed with no known effective treatments is the most significant problem right now.

yeah he wants Trump to enact the defense act so he can take control of manufacturing and make everything his state needs

He thinks ny is going to handle this if he gets the money and then he wants to move on

all he’s talking about now is getting the economy going

 

[Alex1234]

yeah he wants Trump to enact the defense act so he can take control of manufacturing and make everything his state needs

He thinks ny is going to handle this if he gets the money and then he wants to move on

all he’s talking about now is getting the economy going

It will come down to that

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I don't know how anyone can take this line of thinking. The problem with this virus isn't just mortality rate, it's the significant number of serious and critical symptoms that require ICU treatment. They would have to build their ICU capacity to an unknown multiple of current levels. The hospitals being overwhelmed with no known effective treatments is the most significant problem right now.

Not only that, but any kind of serious pneumonia type virus can cause permanent lung/respiratory damage to those who survive, which means you now have a greater percentage of immune compromised people for the next new virus. Yes, most young people will survive...but survival alone isn't necessarily a win here. That's what the kids don't understand.

I'm nearly 50, and after being born with shitty lungs and getting multiple rounds of pneumonia and bronchitis in my life, the next one can easily kill me...every time I get sick it gets worse and worse, and longer to recover. Last bout with bronchitis it took over 9 months to stop coughing and for my lungs to feel decent again. Nine frigging months. Just from bronchitis.

 

[Micklebot]

Anthony Cuomo wants to put a plan in place and start working
Thinks since 98% don’t die we can isolate the vulnerable and move on with our lives

Who is Anthony Cuomo?

Are you thinking Andrew Cuomo? (Gov of NY)

 

[Sens]

Who is Anthony Cuomo?

Are you thinking Andrew Cuomo? (Gov of NY)

Cuomo orders hospitals to add beds as coronavirus cases top 20k
"Many people will get the virus, but few are truly endangered," Cuomo said.


The governor said several of his former top aides, including Steve Cohen and Bill Mulrow, have returned to his administration as unpaid consultants to help determine how to restart New York's economy. He said that at some point people will have to return to work and businesses reopen, but the question is how and when to do that.
"It’s unsustainable to run this state or run this country with the ecomony closed down … you have to get the economy up and running," he said. "So that has to be planned at the same time. ... Can you have a more refined public health strategy that is also more productive or less destructive to the economy? Could there be a more intelligent public health strategy that is more productive or less destructive for the economy."

 

[Knave]

Cuomo orders hospitals to add beds as coronavirus cases top 20k
"Many people will get the virus, but few are truly endangered," Cuomo said.


The governor said several of his former top aides, including Steve Cohen and Bill Mulrow, have returned to his administration as unpaid consultants to help determine how to restart New York's economy. He said that at some point people will have to return to work and businesses reopen, but the question is how and when to do that.
"It’s unsustainable to run this state or run this country with the ecomony closed down … you have to get the economy up and running," he said. "So that has to be planned at the same time. ... Can you have a more refined public health strategy that is also more productive or less destructive to the economy? Could there be a more intelligent public health strategy that is more productive or less destructive for the economy."

The ecomony, we're in Idiocracy now!

 

[GCK]

Martial law in full effect.

Freedom will start to permanently dissipate. Economy will continue to suffer and changes will be brought forward.

If people would have the simple respect for others then no enforcement would be necessary.

 

[Sens]

America is going to be back to work my June

I’m seeing the narrative beginning to change on media
Isolate the vulnerable and move on with life

 

[TheDebater]

The ecomony, we're in Idiocracy now!

Money money money, that is literally all people these days can ever think of. People survived and lived peaceful lives for thousands of years prior to this 100 year technological boom.

Technology is fun and convenient, but we have been spoiled to think that we need a Tim Horton's on every corner of every city...

 

[DaveMatthew]

Cuomo is right, though. This is an incredibly difficult and complex problem, and at the same time that we're thinking about containing the virus and saving lives, we need to be thinking about what "getting back to normal" will look like.

There need to be 3 plans being put together, in parallel right now:

1. Immediate healthcare needs: How do we flatten the curve of infection and save lives of the sick (isolation, quarantines, temporary hospitals, manufacturing medical equipment, etc)?
2. Bridging the gap for individuals and businesses: How do we support people in businesses over this unknown time period (could be weeks or months) so people can pay rent/mortgages, buy food, and companies don't shut down for good (sending everyone a cheque, deferring mortgage payments, relief for small and large businesses, etc)?
3. Getting back to normal: When the virus is contained, or shows signs of containment, how do we go back (does everyone return to work at the same time? Is it phased in by region? what type of businesses can open first?)

Someone needs to be thinking about each of those things, right now.

 

[Sweatred]

Money money money, that is literally all people these days can ever think of. People survived and lived peaceful lives for thousands of years prior to this 100 year technological boom.

Technology is fun and convenient, but we have been spoiled to think that we need a Tim Horton's on every corner of every city...

Between 25-40% of people on this planet rent ... where/how do you expect them to live without an income ? It’s one thing to delay mortgage payments... but dealing with rent and food are different animals without an income.

 

[HSF]

Between 25-40% of people on this planet rent ... where/how do you expect them to live without an income ? It’s one thing to delay mortgage payments... but dealing with rent and food are different animals without an income.

Ya its a sad state we are in.

For years people have warned that spending to your absolute limit will come back to haunt you . The people who got mortgages through back doors and people who don't have emergency funds will feel it

its a crazy time right now

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Between 25-40% of people on this planet rent ... where/how do you expect them to live without an income ? It’s one thing to delay mortgage payments... but dealing with rent and food are different animals without an income.

Maybe some of the trillions of dollars Trump cut from the federal budget by cutting taxes for corporations and billionaires could be used for this? Maybe if companies like FedEx and Amazon paid any taxes this wouldn't be an issue. Instead of bailouts for the airlines, who for 10 years had their most success ever, spent 90% of their billions in surpluses on stock buy backs, they could help people pay their rent. Just a thought.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Ya its a sad state we are in.

For years people have warned that spending to your absolute limit will come back to haunt you . The people who got mortgages through back doors and people who don't have emergency funds will feel it

its a crazy time right now

What about the 24 year old who just graduated university, hasn't nailed down a full-time job yet, and was paying bills by waitressing at a restaurant?

Not everyone has been "spending to their limit". Millions of people don't have emergency funds, through no fault of their own. And thousands of businesses were successful three weeks ago, but won't survive a 2-3-4-5-6 month shut down.

Those people need help.

 

[Sweatred]

Maybe some of the trillions of dollars Trump cut from the federal budget by cutting taxes for corporations and billionaires could be used for this? Maybe if companies like FedEx and Amazon paid any taxes this wouldn't be an issue. Instead of bailouts for the airlines, who for 10 years had their most success ever, spent 90% of their billions in surpluses on stock buy backs, they could help people pay their rent. Just a thought.

A thought ... but not a solution ...

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

A thought ... but not a solution ...

Silly me. Far more important to hord wealth than for people to actually live and be provided with basic necessities.

 

[thinkwild]

Medically this issue wont be over until there is a vaccine and then herd immunity. That’s 18 months assuming they develop one and the number of anti-vaxxers doesn’t grow.

Medically the issue is still exponentially increasing to its high point. No time for returning to normal now. Then if we can isolate enough to starve it and get treatments and simple testing available, there will have to be a managed return of the economy before it is perfectly safe with a vaccine. That decision will be fraught with difficulty and will no doubt go in fits and starts.

That will have to be an evidence based decision balancing lives and livelihoods that can be managed. Not a political decision on how many deaths are acceptable when the primary focus is to get re-elected because citizens of the country don’t want to make anymore difficult sacrifices for a supposed wartime leader.

Draft dodgers were a big thing for a previous wartime president. Maybe isolation dodgers will have to be similarly thought of.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Maybe some of the trillions of dollars Trump cut from the federal budget by cutting taxes for corporations and billionaires could be used for this? Maybe if companies like FedEx and Amazon paid any taxes this wouldn't be an issue. Instead of bailouts for the airlines, who for 10 years had their most success ever, spent 90% of their billions in surpluses on stock buy backs, they could help people pay their rent. Just a thought.

They wonder why an entire nation can't afford this.

Maybe because they've been squeezed to the nuts for the benefit of very few, very greedy people. Now the 1% hides in their gated mansions while they watch the poor scramble and die, likely with not enough empathy to actually make a difference.

Sad times. The death of so many is on the wealth hoarders hands, like Trump and all his crooked cronies.

 

[Dingleberry]

Millions of the poorest voted for Trump. Cut taxes for billionaires, they say he's an angel protecting them from socialism. Not sure what they expect, you could offer to pay their rent on the condition that Trump has to go, they would still choose Trump.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]