Rosters and Ratings: NHL 17 Player Ratings Prediction Thread

[Cousin Eddie]

:

Grigorenko 83 - Duchene 89 - Radulov - 85
Landeskog 87 - Mackinnon 86 - Rantanen 80
Comeau 83 - Soderberg 85 - Iginla 82
Mcleod 79 - Mitchell 80 - Skille 81
Martinsen 77

Beauchemin 85 - Johnson 87
Zadorov - 81 - Barrie 86
Gelinas 81 - Bigras 80
Holden 78

Varlamov 88
Pickard 82
Berra 80

 

[Sharppi]

Parise (88), Koivu (86), Coyle (85)
Vanek (85), Granlund (85), Nino (85)
Zucker (82), Haula (82), Pominville (84)
Porter (78), Carter (79), Fontaine (80)
Schroeder (77)

Suter (90), Spurgeon (85)
Scandella (83), Brodin (84)
Reilly (79), Dumba (81)
Prosser (79)

Dubnyk (84)
Kuemper (81)

Something like that.

 

[Habsfan2731]

Entire Montréal Canadiens franchise:

NHL C's;

Alex Galchenyuk - 87 - Elite
Tomas Plekanec - 86 - Plateaued
Lars Eller - 83 - Plateaued
Philip Danault - 81 - Bottom 6
David Desharnais - 80 - Plateaued
Torrey Mitchell - 78 - Plateaued

NHL LW's;

Max Pacioretty - 89 - Plateaued
Daniel Carr - 81 - Top 9
Paul Byron - 80 - Plateaued
Lucas Lessio - 77 - Bottom 6
Stefan Matteau - 74 - Bottom 6

NHL RW's;

Brendan Gallagher - 86 - Top 6
Sven Andrighetto - 81 - Top 9
Brian Flynn - 78 - Plateaued

NHL D's;

PK Subban - 90 - Plateaued
Jeff Petry - 86 - Plateaued
Andrei Markov - 85 - Plateaued
Alexei Emelin - 83 - Plateaued
Nathan Beaulieu - 83 - Top 4
Mark Barberio - 80 - Top 6
Greg Pateryn - 79 - Top 6

NHL G's;

Carey Price - 93 - Plateaued
Mike Condon - 80 - Backup

AHL St. John's IceCaps Roster and Canadiens prospects

AHL C's;

Charles Hudon - 79 - Top 6
Michael McCarron - 77 - Top 6
Jacob de la Rose - 75 - Top 9
Daniel Audette - 69 - Bottom 6
Lukas Vejdemo - 67 - Bottom 6
Mark MacMillan - 67 - AHL Top 9

AHL LW's;

Michael Bournival - 76 - Bottom 6
Artturi Lehkonen - 70 - Top 6
Tim Bozon - 69 - top 9
Martin Reway - 67 - Top 9
Matt Bradley - 63 - Bottom 6
Jeremiah Addison - 61 - AHL Top 6
Connor Crisp - 61 - AHL 4th Line FWD


AHL RW's;

Max Friberg - 74 - Bottom 6
Nikita Scherbak - 71 - Top 6
Jeremy Gregoire - 68 - Bottom 6

AHL D's;

Darren Dietz - 77 - Top 6
Morgan Ellis - 77 - 7th Dman
Joel Hanley - 74 - 7th Dman
Brett Lernout - 73 - Top 6
Ryan Johnston - 72 - 7th Dman
Dalton Thrower - 70 - Top 6
Tom Parisi - 69 - AHL Top 2
Mac Bennett - 68 - AHL Top 2
Magnus Nygren - 68 - AHL Top 2
Simon Bourque - 67 - 7th Dman
Noah Juulsen - 66 - Top 4
Nikolas Koberstein - 63 - AHL Top 6
Colin Sullivan - 61 - AHL Top 6

AHL G's;

Zach Fucale - 75 - Starter
Charlie Lindgren - 73 - Starter
Mike McNiven - 68 - Starter
Hayden Hawkey - 64 - AHL Starter

(Not all of these players play in the A or will, I believe Hawkey, Evans (Unlisted), Koberstein and Sullivan won't be in the game due to the leagues they play in)

Obviously not all of these kids will live up to potential in the game (I had Dal Colle one year through trade, he had top 6 potential at a 79 overall, I had him in the AHL on the top line, next season he sky rocketed to a 91 with franchise potential)

 

[Man Rocket]

Yeah they really need separation in the overalls.

90+ are superstars.
86-90 are 1st liners.
81-85 are 2nd liners
75-80 are 3rd liners.
70-74 are 4th liners.

Or something of that sort.

This is what they did with NHL 13 and I liked it, but it didn't stick. Not sure if it was because of fan feedback or not. But they need that separation back.

 

[DontPanik]

My Leafs predictions...

Van Riemsdyk- 87 Nylander- 83 Marner- 82
Michalek- 82 Kadri- 85 Komarov- 84
Soshnikov- 82 Matthews*- 84 Kapanen- 82
Greening- 81 Bozak- 84 Lupul- 81

Reilly- 85 Hunwick- 81
Gardiner- 84 Zaitsev- 82
Marincin- 81 Corrado- 81

Bernier- 83
Sparks- 77

Other Players- Hyman- 80, Leivo- 80, Percy- 79.

 

[542365]

Blues prediction:

Schwartz(86)-Lehtera(83)-Tarasenko(92)
Berglund(84)-Steen(87)-Backes(86)
Fabbri(should be 85/86, will be 79/80)-Stastny(85)-Brouwer(84)
Ott(80)-Brodziak(81)-Reaves(79)

JBo(85)-Petro(91)
Gunnarsson(84)-Shattenkirk(89)
Edmundson(81)-Parayko(should be 85, will be 82)

Elliott(85)
Allen(84)

 

[RememberTheName]

My 2 Bold Predictions. Weber's rating stays the highest among defenseman and Crosby STILL is the highest rated plyer

 

[CDonns]

My 2 Bold Predictions. Weber's rating stays the highest among defenseman and Crosby STILL is the highest rated plyer

Weber is bumbed by his physical category, Crosby still the best player in the league so he should be the best player. Toews will be better than Bergeron and Kopitar because EA sucks and intangibles.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Maybe not predictions, not counting prospects or guys like Dzingel, here's where I'd have the Senators full time guys after last season.

MacArthur 83-Turris 87-Stone 89
Hoffman 86-Zibanejad 85-Ryan 86
Smith 85-Pageau 83-Lazar 81
Chiasson 80-Neil 81

Methot 85-Karlsson 94
Phaneuf 86-Ceci 84
Borowiecki 79-Wideman 80
Wiercioch 80

Here's my logic with some of these changes.
-MacArthur was out all last season with a concussion. A guy who missed an entire season with an injury that has potential to permanently effect his play should take a dock in overall until proven otherwise.
-Turris was having a career year until having to play injured. He is a very consistent scorer so he should stick around the 87/88 range he has been in past games.
-Stone deserves a huge boost. He is the Senators best forward. Champion of take aways. 60+ point scorer. 89 might be a stretch, I'm actually not sure what his overall would work out to because certain attributes seem to effect overalls higher. I'd make him either a two way forward or a play maker. EA has had him as a power forward for a while, which seems off, since he rarely hits. He should have below average skating/hitting, but his poke check should rival the best players in the game. He has high hockey IQ, so his o and d awareness should be high. He's also a pretty good passer, and has scored a pace of 25+ goals in his last two seasons so in the EA world there is justification for giving him at least an above average or good shot.
-Ryan gets docked down. He is still a good player, but as far as EA games go, he has been riding the coat tails of his previous success.
-Hoffman's OA will seem low, but his actual offensive attributes would be higher than a typical 86oa. Physical/D awareness will drag his overall down a few points.
-Smith had a career year. He has been stuck at 83 in EA games for years, and just had a 25 goal season. Give him a slight offensive raise. Maybe change him over from a grinder to a two way forward since grinders rarely score in GM mode.
-Pageau at 83 seems fair for a good middle 6 match up centre who scored nearly 40 points this season. I think EA has him as a PLY, but I'd probably make him a TWF. I'd switch Lazar to a GRN just based on his usage the past two years.
-Defense is roughly the same as what I see right now in Legacy. Not sure if I'm on the most up to date roster. Karlsson should be the best D in the game. Wiercioch down to 80.

 

[um]

Looking at ratings it's funny how many 3rd pairing and 4th line players are in the 80s, they really need to change the rating system to something like:

Elite = 90+
1st line/pairing/top 15 starter = 85-89
2nd line/pairing/16-30 starter = 80-84
3rd line/pairing/31-45 backup = 75-79
4th line/pairing/46-60 backup = 70-74

With this the Caps could be (using last years rosters):

Ovechkin (93) - Backstrom (89) - Oshie (86)
Burakovsky (79) - Kuznetsov (87) - Williams (84)
Chimera (77) - Beagle (76) - Johansson (82)
Winnik (73) - Richards (72) - Wilson (74)
Latta (69), Galiev (69)

Alzner (86) - Niskanen (87)
Orpik (79) - Carlson (88)
Schmidt (76) - Orlov (77)
Chorney (74), Weber (73)

Holtby (92)
Grubeaur (77)

 

[Hawks1998]

Blackhawks

Blackhawks using last years roster
Fowards
Ladd (87) - Toews (92) - Hossa (86)
Panarin (87) - Anisimov (85)- Kane (93)
Fleischman (83) - Teravainen (83) - Desjardins (82)
Panik (83) - Kruger (83) - Shaw (85)
Weise (82)
Mashinter (80)
Rasmussen (81)
Defenseman
Keith (91) - Seabrook (87)
Hjalmarsson (85) - Van Riemsdyk (84) probably 83 or 82 but I feel he’s played a lot better
Gustafsson (82) - Rundblad (81)
Roszival (79)
Erhoff (81)
Svedberg (80)
Goalies
Crawford (89)
Darling (83)
Leighton (80)

 

[542365]

Blackhawks using last years roster
Fowards
Ladd (87) - Toews (92) - Hossa (86)
Panarin (87) - Anisimov (85)- Kane (93)
Fleischman (83) - Teravainen (83) - Desjardins (82)
Panik (83) - Kruger (83) - Shaw (85)
Weise (82)
Mashinter (80)
Rasmussen (81)
Defenseman
Keith (91) - Seabrook (87)
Hjalmarsson (85) - Van Riemsdyk (84) probably 83 or 82 but I feel he’s played a lot better
Gustafsson (82) - Rundblad (81)
Roszival (79)
Erhoff (81)
Svedberg (80)
Goalies
Crawford (89)
Darling (83)
Leighton (80)

It would be absolutely hysterical if Toews is a 92 He really shouldn't be higher than an 87 at most.

 

[Hawks1998]

It would be absolutely hysterical if Toews is a 92 He really shouldn't be higher than an 87 at most.

He's a lot better than your captain and he's one of the best defensive forwards in the game.

 

[542365]

He's a lot better than your captain and he's one of the best defensive forwards in the game.

Kyle Brodziak is a great defensive forward. Doesn't mean he deserves to be highly rated. Toews is a 50-60 point player that plays above average defense. That's a very good player, I'm not saying he sucks, but to rate him as a superstar is stupid because he's not one. He belongs right with Derek Stepan. They are VERY similar players. You realize Jussi Jokinen outscored Toews this year? Should he be a 92? He plays very good defense too. Derek Brassard exact same numbers as Toews. Toews's scoring totals have gone down each of the last three seasons. Who is to say he won't put up 50 points next year? That's the way he's heading.

 

[ViD]

Ladd 85
Toews 90
Panarin 88

 

[Hawks1998]

San Jose Sharks
Hertl (84) Thornton (88) Pavelski (90)
Marleau (86) Couture (88) Donskoi (85)
Karlsson (83) Tierney (82) Ward (85)
Zubrus (81) Spaling (82) Win gels (83)
Martin (84) Burns (89)
Vlasic (87) Braun (83)
Dillon (82) Polak (82)
Jones (87)
Reimer (85-86)

 

[Hawks1998]

Nashville Predators
Wilson (84) Fisher (84) Neal (88)
Forsberg (86) Johansen (88) Smith (84)
Jarnkrok (82) Ribeiro (84) Arvidsson (83) (89 skating)
Salomaki (82) Gaustad (84) Sissons (81)
Josi (90) Weber (90)
Ekholm (84) Ellis (86)
Bitetto (82) Jackman (83)
Rinne (88)
Hutton (83)

 

[Number 57]

How I would rank all the top players in the league;

F
Patrick Kane - 94
Sidney Crosby - 94
Alex Ovechkin - 92
Evgeni Malkin - 92
Jamie Benn - 91
John Tavares - 90
Tyler Seguin - 90
Patrice Bergeron - 89
Nicklas Backstrom - 89
Anze Kopitar - 88
Joe Pavelski - 88
Claude Giroux - 88
Jonathan Toews - 88
Connor McDavid - 88
Joe Thornton - 88
Ryan Getzlaf - 87
Steven Stamkos - 87
Vladimir Tarasenko - 87
Johnny Gaudreau - 87
Nikita Kucherov - 87
Corey Perry - 86
Artemi Panarin - 86
Jakub Voracek - 86
Blake Wheeler - 86
Matt Duchene - 86
Aleksander Barkov - 86

D
Duncan Keith - 93
Drew Doughty - 92
Erik Karlsson - 91
Viktor Hedman - 90
Brent Burns - 90
Oliver Ekman-Larsson - 90
Roman Josi - 89
Shea Weber - 89
Dustin Byfuglien - 89
Kristopher Letang - 89
Ryan Suter - 88
PK Subban - 88
Alex Pietrangelo - 88
John Carlson - 88
John Klingberg - 87
Justin Faulk - 87
TJ Brodie - 86
Marc-Edouard Vlasic - 86
Tyson Barrie - 86
Aaron Ekblad - 86

G
Carey Price - 93
Braden Holtby - 93
Henrik Lundqvist - 92
Corey Crawford - 90
Ben Bishop - 90
Cory Schneider - 90
Jonathan Quick - 89
Marc-Andre Fleury - 87
Pekka Rinne - 87
Roberto Luongo - 87

 

[Joey Moss]

Lucic (86) - McDavid (89) - Eberle (86)
Pouliot (83) - Nugent-Hopkins (86) - Yakupov (82)
Maroon (82) - Draisaitl (85) - Kassian (81)
Hendricks (81) - Letestu (81) - Pakarinen (80)

Klefbom (84) - Larsson (85)
Sekera (85) - Fayne (82)
Davidson (82) - Nurse (82)

Talbot (85)
Gustavsson (80)

Puljujarvi likely makes the Oilers, but won't be in game until first update.

 

[ThatNavyGuy]

:FLYERS

(Using the preferred rating scale)

B.Schenn(83)-C.Giroux(89)-J.Voracek(87)

M.Raffl(80)-S.Couturier(84)-W.Simmonds(86)

S.Gagner(78)-S.Laughton(75)-M.Read(77)

R.White(73)-P.Bellemare(73)-C.Vandevelde(70)

S.Gostisbehere(84)-M.Streit(81)

M.Del Zotto(83)-R.Gudas(81)

A.MacDonald(77)-N.Schultz(76)

S.Mason(86)-M.Neuvirth(85)

Some Prospects:

I.Provorov(73 - High Elite)
T.Sanheim(67 - Med Elite)
S.Morin(67 - Med Top 4)
R.Hagg(64 - Med Top 6)
N.Cousins(73 - Med Top 6)
T.Konecny(64 - Med Elite)
A.Stolarz(64 - Med Starter)

 

[fredligh]

This is what they did with NHL 13 and I liked it, but it didn't stick. Not sure if it was because of fan feedback or not. But they need that separation back.

Agree, especially for the fourth liners, there is many players in the SHL fx that is BETTER hockey players than NHL grinders doing 4 min a night in the NHL. The fourth liners should be as poster above described, and then the really good euro players should be 75-80.

 

[Gsus]

Based on the preferred ratings and prospects ratings are just something they start from:

Schenn(85)-Giroux(90)-Voracek(88)
Raffl(82)-Couturier(85)-Simmonds(87)
Konecny(76)-Laughton(80)-Read(81)
VandeVelde(78)-Bellemare(81)-White(79)

Provorov(80)-MDZ(85)
Ghost(86)-MacDonald(81)
Schultz(80)-Gudas(83)

Mason(86)
Neuvirth(85)

 

[CanadaIsIrrelevant]

Forwards

Abdelkader (85)
Athanasiou (82)
Glendening (81)
Jurco (84)
Larkin (84)
Mantha (80)
Miller (80)
Nyquist (86)
Pulkkinen (82)
Sheahan (85)
Tatar (86)
Zetterberg (88)

If they are on the team
Datsyuk (90)
Franzen (84)
Helm (84)
Richards (83)

Defense

DeKeyser (85)
Ericsson (82)
Green (87)
Kronwall (88)
Marchenko (84)
Ouellet (83)
Smith (84)

If they are on the team
Quincey (85)

Goalies

Howard (84)
Mrazek (86)

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[EvergladesBruin]

Going off what is the current Bruins roster. This is more than likely gonna change between now and release, but let's just go with it;

Marchand (88) - Bergeron (92) - Pastrnak (80)

Beleskey (83) - Krejci (87) - Eriksson (87)

Vatrano (77) - Spooner (84) - Stempniak (82)

Hayes (78) - Accari (78) - Ferraro (81)
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Chara (84) - K. Miller (78)

Lilies (82) - Seidenberg (82)

Krug (83) - McQuaid (79)
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Rask (89)

Gustavsson (78)

Pretty accurate although EA doesn't show Marchy any love.

 

[Mike Hasselhoffman]

Pacioretty [88] - Galchenyuk [87] - Gallagher [85]
Eller [82] - Plekanec [86] - Andrighetto [83]
Carr [77] - Danault [80] - Desharnais [80]
De la Rose [78] - Mitchell [78] - Lessio [76]
Matteau [74] - McCarron [79] - Byron [79]

Markov [85] - Subban [90]
Beaulieu [84] - Petry [85]
Emelin [83] - Pateryn [80]
Barberio [79] - Bartley [76]

Price [93]
Condon [79]

my guess