Player Discussion: Neal Pionk
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Hunter368
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I think Pionk has top 4 potential, he's pretty good offensively, needs to improve defensively........keep in mind he was on brutal team with little help most nights.
Only surprise to me was no conditional pick attached to the deal.
Analytics hate him but it has been said that teams around the league have a much better view of him than the numbers would suggest.
No kidding. The outrage on here and Twitter, etc. is all directed at Chevy, but if you’re Pionk, you can’t help but feel unwelcome. I’m willing to give him a chance.
Are you mad at a player for getting traded here?
I'm not entirely satisfied with the return either but Pionk is certainly better than the alternatives we have at the position at the moment.
We have Byfuglien and... that's it, just Byfuglien now.
I am not mad a Pionk.
I just want him out of here and never want to see him in a Jets uniform.
Good riddance to these ****ty Rangers players.
Can’t change the trade now. May as well see what we have with him.
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Evil Little
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I wonder if the Jets feel there might be some addition by subtraction, too.
Who knows what effect a crybaby who doesn't want to be there has on a any given team. Something wasn't right, though.
Who knows what effect a crybaby who doesn't want to be there has on a any given team. Something wasn't right, though.
Initially I was kind of wtf about this, but now I don't hate this trade. This was about the business of hockey and now I expect to see Copp, Laine, and Connor signed. I am hopeful for Tanev and Myers, but I can see Tanev blasting off elsewhere.
tntkid
Fire Maurice & Chevy
We gifted a top defenseman for next to nothing.
We gifted our first round draft pick and Lemieux for nothing.
To the same f***ing team.
Teemusalami204
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Will maurice even play this guy??? He will probably stay on third pairing be alternated from the PB
Rangers fans say he was used mostly on pp we have buff on first pp morrisey on 2nd whatz this guy going to do for us ?
Rangers fans say he was used mostly on pp we have buff on first pp morrisey on 2nd whatz this guy going to do for us ?
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So true. I'm willing to see what the kid actually does.
Scheifele55
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We gifted a top defenseman for next to nothing.
We gifted our first round draft pick and Lemiuex for nothing.
To the same ****ing team.
Chicago gifted us Byfuglien and Ladd after winning the cup in separate trades. Winnipeg had to deal Trouba because they couldn't afford him, took the best offer they received, and will move on. I was reading that Winnipeg was shopping Perreault's contract in a deal also but no one would offer a 1st rounder if he was part of the package.
mashedpotato
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Lol. Pionk is garbage.... Shocked by this trade.
tntkid
Fire Maurice & Chevy
Was that shitty offer the Rangers gave Chevy really the best offer available.
Chevy is a f***ing idiot to not wait until the draft to move Trouba.
He got hosed by the Rangers twice in the same year.
Fire this shit for brains gm.
Yeah not sure why Chevy couldn't get a conditional pick added to the deal. A 2020 lottery protected 1st rounder would have made this better. Now watch Trouba sign long term with the Rags and Hayes resign with them and we basically gave up Trouba for Pionk...
I think we probably roll
MoJo - Buff
Kulikov - Pionk
Niku - Chiarot/Beaulieu/Poolman
Man we are taking a major step back next year, especially if Buff or Wheeler slow down in any way.
We gifted a top defenseman for next to nothing.
We gifted our first round draft pick and Lemieux for nothing.
To the same ****ing team.
Hey now we didn't gift them our first round pick... we got it back.
Hunter368
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Myers is still in the picture, for better or worse depending on his contract.
No more OS threat, no more cap issues. Cap is an asset.
If Pionk or the pick ever become top 4 or top 6 player and the Rangers don't sign Trouba......Chevy won that trade. Rangers are still going to be a non playoff team even with Trouba......so this trade is bad for then unless they actually sign him......if they do then Chevy lost the deal.
20th OA is a decent pick.
Pionk has top 4 potentional and could easily be a 30+ point guy next year......he just needs to keep working on his defensive game and he has the IQ to do it.
But yeh our defence unit overall is going to be rougher without Trouba......but that was a given regardless of what any realistic return was going to be.
WPGChief
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Rangers can easily flip Trouba to a contender for another first and prospect if they can't sign him long-term. They are firmly in the driver's seat and don't necessarily need a player like Trouba right now like the Jets do.
Pionk was undrafted, had his ceiling skyrocket after a few good seasons and then crashed firmly back down to earth. Remember, it's been proven time and time again that defenders aren't late growers by any means and likely have reached their potential at ages 23-25:
Trouba has proven since he was 20 that he was capable of a top 4 role. Pionk is no where close.
Chevy said a few things about Pionk in his interview that were a bit encouraging.
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he said that according to everyone they talked with, he's a very competitive player. If so, he can still improve.
Second, he noted that he thought Pionk might benefit in a different roster environment. Some young D get hammered in big minute roles on bad teams.
Third, he specifically noted that he thought Pionk might be more effective with the Jets forward talent because of his good passing. I do think that has been a weakness on the Jets D. Myers and Trouba are poor passers and impede the transition game. Only Morrissey and Buff are good passers with vision. With Niku and Pionk, maybe the Jets will be better able to transition quickly.
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he said that according to everyone they talked with, he's a very competitive player. If so, he can still improve.
Second, he noted that he thought Pionk might benefit in a different roster environment. Some young D get hammered in big minute roles on bad teams.
Third, he specifically noted that he thought Pionk might be more effective with the Jets forward talent because of his good passing. I do think that has been a weakness on the Jets D. Myers and Trouba are poor passers and impede the transition game. Only Morrissey and Buff are good passers with vision. With Niku and Pionk, maybe the Jets will be better able to transition quickly.
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