Value of: Nathan Mackinnon (THN says he's no longer untouchable)

[tylerjohnson2626]

Jim Matheson was referenced in the THN's Rumour Roundup that Mackinnon is no longer considered untouchable, or they'll at least listen to offers. Mainly due to the subpar seasons Landeskog and Duchene are having.

I'd be curious to see what you think your team would have to give up to get him.

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[Maukkis]

No one can be untouchable after that kind of a season. He isn't going to be cheap, but if they decide to shake things up, I don't think there's anyone other than Rantanen who is untouchable.

 

[pockets]

So the subpar seasons of Landeskog and Duchene make it so MacKinnon is no longer untouchable? Not buying it, if anything I'd say that makes MacKinnon more valuable to the Avs...

Regardless, if he is available, I'd bet it's for a very steep price

ADDED: Sakic has been very clear in saying that MacKinnon, Rantanen, Jost and Zadorov are the only ones he's not willing to trade

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

anything to try and stay in business.

 

[tucker3434]

That doesn't make any sense. MacKinnon seems to be the only guy on the ice who HASNT given up this season. We need more of those guys. Not less.

 

[angry pirate]

Good old fashioned hockey trade? An established, mid 20's, top pairing defencemen as Colorado has been reportedly seeking since TDL day. Think Hampus Lindholm as baseline.

If it's a blue chip prospect defencemen than a really good young roster player is going to have to be moved too. Think Mikhail Sergachev and Alex Galchenyuk as a baseline.

 

[2022 Stanley Cup]

No one can be untouchable after that kind of a season. He isn't going to be cheap, but if they decide to shake things up, I don't think there's anyone other than Rantanen who is untouchable.

Jost

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I'm sure if Nate had his choice to play anywhere, it'd be with his idol/hero/close friend Crosby.

Get that **** sorted on this fake rumor, JR.

 

[spot]

Good old fashioned hockey trade? An established, mid 20's, top pairing defencemen as Colorado has been reportedly seeking since TDL day. Think Hampus Lindholm as baseline.

If it's a blue chip prospect defencemen than a really good young roster player is going to have to be moved too. Think Mikhail Sergachev and Alex Galchenyuk as a baseline.

Pretty bang on with both proposals IMO.

 

[CanuckGame39]

Canucks offer this years 1st pick unprotected lottery pick, plus one of our high end D prospects.

im not down with trading high end draft picks, but if its Nathan Mackinnon coming back, make it happen JB.

 

[MinJaBen]

How about Hanifin, Nic Roy or Victor Rask, 2017 1st Round Pick?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

No one can be untouchable after that kind of a season. He isn't going to be cheap, but if they decide to shake things up, I don't think there's anyone other than Rantanen who is untouchable.

The whole "he isn't going to be cheap" part is interesting. Another notion on this board. Remember HFboards is where people projected Nate MacKinnon as being better than Crosby by now and that is now laughable at best. Still though, putting up 51pts isn't terrible at all. From the Pens (and of course there would be interest as a Pens fan considering his style of game, his ties to Crosby, etc), I'd think the Maatta + 1st and maybe someone like Wilson would be more than enough, but of course, making that claim here would freak people out with "Not enough!!!"...when it'd probably be.

It could be worse, the Avs could be stuck with the likes of a Sam Bennett or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

How about Hanifin, Nic Roy or Victor Rask, 2017 1st Round Pick?

Is Ron Francis trying to get fired for making the most lop sided trade in Carolina Hurricanes Franchise History?

Because that's how you get fired and laughed out of the league.

 

[Drew4u]

The whole "he isn't going to be cheap" part is interesting. Another notion on this board. Remember HFboards is where people projected Nate MacKinnon as being better than Crosby by now and that is now laughable at best. Still though, putting up 51pts isn't terrible at all. From the Pens (and of course there would be interest as a Pens fan considering his style of game, his ties to Crosby, etc), I'd think the Maatta + 1st and maybe someone like Wilson would be more than enough, but of course, making that claim here would freak people out with "Not enough!!!"...when it'd probably be.

It could be worse, the Avs could be stuck with the likes of a Sam Bennett or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.

A late first and an injury prone second pairing defencemen (at best) isnt enough for Mackinnon. He probably has more value than Malkin.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Honestly, as an Avs fan a small part of me wouldn't hate seeing Nate traded just so that he could rip it up and realize his full potential.

But it won't happen, and let's hope they sort out this organizational mess sooner than later.

 

[tucker3434]

The whole "he isn't going to be cheap" part is interesting. Another notion on this board. Remember HFboards is where people projected Nate MacKinnon as being better than Crosby by now and that is now laughable at best. Still though, putting up 51pts isn't terrible at all. From the Pens (and of course there would be interest as a Pens fan considering his style of game, his ties to Crosby, etc), I'd think the Maatta + 1st and maybe someone like Wilson would be more than enough, but of course, making that claim here would freak people out with "Not enough!!!"...when it'd probably be.

It could be worse, the Avs could be stuck with the likes of a Sam Bennett or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.

Not close to enough, much less more than enough.

 

[howkie]

The whole "he isn't going to be cheap" part is interesting. Another notion on this board. Remember HFboards is where people projected Nate MacKinnon as being better than Crosby by now and that is now laughable at best. Still though, putting up 51pts isn't terrible at all. From the Pens (and of course there would be interest as a Pens fan considering his style of game, his ties to Crosby, etc), I'd think the Maatta + 1st and maybe someone like Wilson would be more than enough, but of course, making that claim here would freak people out with "Not enough!!!"...when it'd probably be.

It could be worse, the Avs could be stuck with the likes of a Sam Bennett or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.

So MacK is worth nothing more or less. Avs would want to do a 1 for 1 if they trade him, no packages if we not talk som real bluechips here.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Dylan Strome+2017 1st

 

[SI90]

Makes no sense but a GMs job is to always listen. Can't imagine they would trade Mack.

 

[TLEH]

How about Hanifin, Nic Roy or Victor Rask, 2017 1st Round Pick?

as if Nic Roy and Victor Rask have the same value.

 

[harv33173]

again. offering ekblad straight up deal.

 

[MinJaBen]

as if Nic Roy and Victor Rask have the same value.

They play the same position, they have the same limitations (mobility) and I think the same ceiling as a player 2/3 center. One is a lot closer to the ceiling now, but is four years older and not on an ELC for the next three years while the other is younger and cheaper, but has more upside risk. Depending on what the Avs plans are, one may be better to them than the other. As far as Carolina goes, if we are getting Mac, we don't need both of them as I don't think either translates well to the wing and we are loaded at centers with 2nd/3rd line capabilities. So, I offered them their choice.

 

[DougieSmash]

we are loaded at centers with 2nd/3rd line capabilities.

Wallmark, Roy and Kuokkonen is not exactly something that we scream loaded at center position. Not even sure that Wallmark and Kuokkonen will be centers in NHL. Saarela and Potularski are better suited for wing.

 

[stl76]

The whole "he isn't going to be cheap" part is interesting. Another notion on this board. Remember HFboards is where people projected Nate MacKinnon as being better than Crosby by now and that is now laughable at best. Still though, putting up 51pts isn't terrible at all. From the Pens (and of course there would be interest as a Pens fan considering his style of game, his ties to Crosby, etc), I'd think the Maatta + 1st and maybe someone like Wilson would be more than enough, but of course, making that claim here would freak people out with "Not enough!!!"...when it'd probably be.

It could be worse, the Avs could be stuck with the likes of a Sam Bennett or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.

If you actually think Olli Maatta + late 1st gets you Nathan MacKinnon then I question either your knowledge, your sanity, or both.

The Avs would undoubtedly get MUCH better offers from other teams.

 

[Stuzchuk]

Dylan Strome+2017 1st

that'S not enough and where's the DEFENSIVE help that COL is desperately looking for?

Base your proposal on OEL I'd say

EDIT there would be a + on COL side