Confirmed Trade: [MTL/VAN] Tanner Pearson and 2025 3rd round pick for Casey DeSmith

[oceanchild]

Not a single guy on your roster has waiver ineligibility. You would have had to expose some depth to get cap compliant. Especially since you can only bury 1 mil of a contract and you needed to drop 1.5 mil. That's two guys at .775k. While it was certainly possible, do you risk losing a couple guys and go into the season with no backup goalie?

Even the offseason articles about Vancouver being cap compliant all are under the impression Pearson had no chance of getting cleared. I don't think management wanted to take the risk when Petey said he isn't signing if you guys have a bad season. Paying a third to dump Pearson and get a real back up goalie was worth it.

No, they had Pearson on the roster. The thought was that they would run with 21 players at least to start and Mikheyev can be placed on retro LITR due to the injury from last year. The farm team is in Abbostsford so close enough (a suburb) to call up players if needed. Local
Media seems to think this was the best route and I get the feeling Pearson wanted a change in scenery. Not to mention, this is an upgrade to our backup Goalie, which in the end seems worth a third.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

If Demko remains healthy, DeSmith could be a good add. He seems to do fine when he's the backup, getting backup workload. But he becomes dogshit when he's a starter for a prolonged stretch.

And there's just something about how he looks in net that he plays so tiny. When he's on, it's because he's making acrobatic saves. But if the timing is off, he's terrible because his technique sucks and he plays small so he's not "blocking" many shots with his frame.

 

[timw33]

But he becomes dogshit when he's a starter for a prolonged stretch.

I think that's true of most backup goalies in the league, especially those in situations where they are playing behind true #1 starters instead of in a tandem-like situation.

 

[Three On Zero]

Not to mention that the Canucks have been more successful than any other team at adding NCAA/Euro UFA's since Allvin took over.
Over the next 3 years we are down a 2,3,7 round picks, I'd argue that Hirose, McWard, and Sasson getting signed last year comes very close to offsetting those picks.
It is a little easier to give up mid round picks to improve your team when you are supplementing your prospect pool in other ways. Alvin has done an excellent job of building some prospect depth, now he just needs to add some more high end talent.

Vancouver has and always will be a premier spot to land for free agents, it's nice to stock up on picks but when you are offseting the loss through free agency/college players it numbs the pain a bit

 

[BCNate]

Vancouver has and always will be a premier spot to land for free agents, it's nice to stock up on picks but when you are offseting the loss through free agency/college players it numbs the pain a bit

Almost rid of the Benning stench, so hopefully the days of sending picks away to get rid of bad contracts are finished. Gonna be nice to see what this management group can do going forward without carrying so much dead weight.

 

[Three On Zero]

Almost rid of the Benning stench, so hopefully the days of sending picks away to get rid of bad contracts are finished. Gonna be nice to see what this management group can do going forward without carrying so much dead weight.

A lot is riding on Petey

 

[Hodge]

Honestly who gives a shit about a giving up a 3rd round pick 2 years from now? The Canucks are trying to compete. A 3rd round pick adds nothing to that goal.

This is like Homer Simpson being disappointed he found $20 under the couch cushions because he really wanted a peanut.

Draft picks can be exchanged for established NHL players who help you compete.

 

[Cogburn]

This is like Homer Simpson being disappointed he found $20 under the couch cushions because he really wanted a peanut.

Draft picks can be exchanged for established NHL players who help you compete.

But we can't acquire those players while being above the cap.

 

[ijuka]

But we can't acquire those players while being above the cap.

Draft picks can add retention... Sheesh.

 

[Cogburn]

Draft picks can add retention... Sheesh.

But again, not if we're already above the cap. Also, how is that any different then what happened here?

 

[beowulf]

I am assuming the Habs will try and move Pearson at some point.

 

[CDN24]

This is like Homer Simpson being disappointed he found $20 under the couch cushions because he really wanted a peanut.

Draft picks can be exchanged for established NHL players who help you compete.

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars? I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts.
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services.

 

[CDN24]

But we can't acquire those players while being above the cap.

Those draft picks are like magic beans that can also be used to acquire players who start out on ELC that keep you under the cap. currently Cap friendly has a 24 players on canucks roster- not one is on an ELC

 

[rypper]

Those draft picks are like magic beans that can also be used to acquire players who start out on ELC that keep you under the cap. currently Cap friendly has a 24 players on canucks roster- not one is on an ELC

Off season rosters are never right on cap friendly. The Canucks in season roster will likely have 2. Podkolzin and Aman. Maybe a 3rd depending on how camp shakes out.

 

[rypper]

This is like Homer Simpson being disappointed he found $20 under the couch cushions because he really wanted a peanut.

Draft picks can be exchanged for established NHL players who help you compete.

That's essentially what this trade did. Trading the 3rd and Pearson improved our back up goalie and in a roundabout way center depth. Provided cap space to fit Suter.

 

[Cogburn]

Those draft picks are like magic beans that can also be used to acquire players who start out on ELC that keep you under the cap. currently Cap friendly has a 24 players on canucks roster- not one is on an ELC

That is if that third round pick becomes even an NHL/AHL tweener, which is a high bar to clear that late in the draft.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

That is if that third round pick becomes even an NHL/AHL tweener, which is a high bar to clear that late in the draft.

The probability that that 3rd rounder ends up playing as many games as DeSmith, even as a skater is low.

Habs will just draft a goalie, or a sub 6' forward that doesn't have any stand out skill.

 

[Hodge]

That's essentially what this trade did. Trading the 3rd and Pearson improved our back up goalie and in a roundabout way center depth. Provided cap space to fit Suter.

Are you saying it's a good thing that they traded a 3rd round pick for a 4C and a backup goalie?

 

[rypper]

Are you saying it's a good thing that they traded a 3rd round pick for a 4C and a backup goalie?

Sure, both players are going to help fill obvious weak spots for the team. I don't think Suter will be exclusively used as a 4C either. There's value in have cap flexibility as well.

 

[Hodge]

Sure, both players are going to help fill obvious weak spots for the team. I don't think Suter will be exclusively used as a 4C either. There's value in have cap flexibility as well.

But they still don't have cap flexibility. They're going to be forced to put Poolman on LTIR.

I think the bigger issue is giving up the pick and going through all this trouble for a move that will only benefit the team this season. There's at least a 50% chance they miss the playoffs and you traded the pick for nothing.

Deadline deals are different because the teams giving up picks are relatively assured of making the playoffs.

 

[rypper]

But they still don't have cap flexibility. They're going to be forced to put Poolman on LTIR.

I think the bigger issue is giving up the pick and going through all this trouble for a move that will only benefit the team this season. There's at least a 50% chance they miss the playoffs and you traded the pick for nothing.

Deadline deals are different because the teams giving up picks are relatively assured of making the playoffs.

The team's directive is to make the playoffs. That's the focus. A 3rd round pick 2 years from now doesn't help them at all in achieving that.

If it looks like they're going to miss.......... there's players they could trade to recoup a 3rd. It's such a non factor.

 

[ManByng]

As an Oilers fan I say that the Canucks won this trade and now hav a competent backup to Demko!

 

[jackjohnson]

If Demko remains healthy, DeSmith could be a good add. He seems to do fine when he's the backup, getting backup workload. But he becomes dogshit when he's a starter for a prolonged stretch.

And there's just something about how he looks in net that he plays so tiny. When he's on, it's because he's making acrobatic saves. But if the timing is off, he's terrible because his technique sucks and he plays small so he's not "blocking" many shots with his frame.

Canucks have 2 backups plus Silovs so I think they will be very fine.

Demko
DeSmith
Martin
Silovs

They don't really need to worry much since if both Martin and Desmith crap the bed, Silovs is the real deal. Canucks strength now is their winger depth and goaltending while Center they are alright. Still need a bit more depth on D but Cole and Soucy additions seem to remedy the problem a bit.

As an Oilers fan I say that the Canucks won this trade and now hav a competent backup to Demko!

Well, they also have Silovs which everyone here seems to be sleeping on. He is Demko V.2

 

[jackjohnson]

But they still don't have cap flexibility. They're going to be forced to put Poolman on LTIR.

I think the bigger issue is giving up the pick and going through all this trouble for a move that will only benefit the team this season. There's at least a 50% chance they miss the playoffs and you traded the pick for nothing.

Deadline deals are different because the teams giving up picks are relatively assured of making the playoffs.

Canucks need to make playoffs. What are you talking bud? Add Hronek, Cole, Soucy, Pius suter, Blueger, DeSmith etc. etc. just to miss playoffs lol. By that logic we will never make playoffs and wont get good picks either since the team is too good to end up last.

 

[jackjohnson]

Are you saying it's a good thing that they traded a 3rd round pick for a 4C and a backup goalie?

yeah its a good thing they traded a 2025 3rd which they would have waited til 2029 for that pick to play in NHL if they even were lucky and by that time Petersson, miller, Demko etc. are retired. They have to make hay while they have the young star players. Can't do a 20 year rebuild and be patient so every spot has a superstar on it. By that time I will be in my grave. Go to playoffs and see how it goes, add players to the foundation and become competitive. Now its not rebuilding time for Canucks, its just some shuffling and retooling the roster. Rebuild is when most of the core is 32 plus and need to replace important positions like 1st C, 1st D, 1st G etc. They already have all those important core players in 22 to 25 age range. Now its time to surround them with good depth. Thats how teams build, they don't just rely on picks especially 3rd and 4th round picks to fill depth when they require those players now.