Confirmed Signing with Link: [MTL] Carey Price extended (8 years, $10.5M AAV)

[hersky77]

It was too early to re-sign him.

The contract is too long and too expensive.


Bergevin is crashing the plane big time in Montreal.

What?

So the habs should have risked letting him walk for nothing next year, becuase they weren't trading him.

So not exactly sure when they should have signed him.

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

The problem is that, including the back up, it's almost TWELVE MILLION spent on goaltending. That's 15% of the cap. That's huge.

He is the best goalie in the world and in a vaccuum, blank cheque his ass. But in a cap world, 12 mil on goaltending is simply too much.

The trickle down effect is big. The habs still don't have a 1c. They don't have a 2c. Their 3c (plek) makes 6mil and sucks. I don't believe prince's contract prevents them from filling those spots, but it's definitely going to make it more difficult.

Having said all that... bergevin had no choice. His hands were tied on this. He either signs the best goalie on the planet so whatever he needs to sign him for or trade him for likely a far less return than he should get and he puts his neck on the line for letting him go. I hate bergevin and think he sucks as a gm but I gotta give him a pass on this one.

At the end of the day, Mtl is that much further from being a real contender. Not because of this contract alone but it's definitely a factor.

 

[General Disarray]

Price better not complain about the team in front of him. If he wants a cup, he's gonna have to win on his own more or less.

 

[Chardo]

The problem is that, including the back up, it's almost TWELVE MILLION spent on goaltending. That's 15% of the cap. That's huge.

He is the best goalie in the world and in a vaccuum, blank cheque his ass. But in a cap world, 12 mil on goaltending is simply too much.

The trickle down effect is big. The habs still don't have a 1c. They don't have a 2c. Their 3c (plek) makes 6mil and sucks. I don't believe prince's contract prevents them from filling those spots, but it's definitely going to make it more difficult.

Having said all that... bergevin had no choice. His hands were tied on this. He either signs the best goalie on the planet so whatever he needs to sign him for or trade him for likely a far less return than he should get and he puts his neck on the line for letting him go. I hate bergevin and think he sucks as a gm but I gotta give him a pass on this one.

At the end of the day, Mtl is that much further from being a real contender. Not because of this contract alone but it's definitely a factor.

Or, he offers him less but still fair, and convinces his player that he's not gonna get a better deal or situation from another team. That's what good GM's do.

 

[CanadianPensFan1]

Or, he offers him less but still fair, and convinces his player that he's not gonna get a better deal or situation from another team. That's what good GM's do.

Unless bergevin can do the Jedi mind trick, there is no way he is convincing price that no other team will offer him more money.

He absolutely would have gotten the same or better aav in free agency. Look at the stupid contracts given out in the last two summers. Do you honestly think GM's wouldn't back up the brink truck in ufa for price?

 

[Malkinstheman]

10.5 seems like the number Carey would start at during the negotiations, not what he'd end up at.

 

[Chardo]

Bergevin got bent over, bidding against himself, and the habs will just have to deal with the consequences. They'll survive. Might not thrive, but they'll survive.

 

[bert]

Everyone is going on about how its way too much money but if he was getting 8.5 or 9 everyone would say they have done a great job. In the mean time how many teams spent within 1.5 million of the cap?...

He's the best goalie in the world now he is paid the most. Everyone needs to stop critisizing and hating so much its really not that bad at all.

 

[Chardo]

Everyone is going on about how its way too much money but if he was getting 8.5 or 9 everyone would say they have done a great job. In the mean time how many teams spent within 1.5 million of the cap?...

He's the best goalie in the world now he is paid the most. Everyone needs to stop critisizing and hating so much its really not that bad at all.

Even 8.5 or 9 is more than you need to spend for a goalie. But even if you think it's appropriate, how many teams have to make unwanted moves because they need another 2M of cap space?

 

[Blowfish]

The dude is 30 and agree with many here. Anything over 8 m for a goalie is setting a team up for failure.

 

[Sens]

Remember when Price got hurt and the Habs went from 1st to out of the playoffs?

That's why Price makes 10.5

 

[Sens]

Price + Drouin = 15.5 million
Franchise goalie and potentially franchise winger

Leaves 60 (+ depending on the cap rising) million dollars to build the rest of the team

That's a lot of money

 

[Chardo]

Remember when Price got hurt and the Habs went from 1st to out of the playoffs?

That's why Price makes 10.5

Remember when Lundqvist got hurt and the Rangers climbed in the standings? Their backup (actually backups, it happened twice) was excellent. Great goalies are all around. Supply and demand.

 

[KINGS17]

Remember when Price got hurt and the Habs went from 1st to out of the playoffs?

That's why Price makes 10.5

Actually, this is an excellent reason not to give a 30-year old Price 8 years, and over $10M a season.

Is Montreal going to even contend for a cup in the next 10 years? Not likely.

 

[karnige]

Bergevin got bent over, bidding against himself, and the habs will just have to deal with the consequences. They'll survive. Might not thrive, but they'll survive.

you pay the best the most. reality.

 

[Lilou]

Looks even worse after today.

 

[Chardo]

you pay the best the most. reality.

But why pay him 20% more than #2, or 50% more than other elites, when you don't have to?

 

[Sens]

35W's a year for the next nine gets Price to 586 (2nd all time)

 

[BertCorbeau]

Price + Drouin = 15.5 million
Franchise goalie and potentially franchise winger

Leaves 60 (+ depending on the cap rising) million dollars to build the rest of the team

That's a lot of money

Don't forget Weber's $7.85 mill AAV on the cap for the long term

And Alzner's new deal @ $4.625

And Petry ($5.5), Shaw ($3.9), and Gallagher ($3.75)

All locked up long term (4+ year) .. So roughly - what - 45% of the cap is allocated to those 6 players plus Price

Building successfully around these high AAV contracts is the next task for GM's to sort out. Effective cheap contracts are paramount.

 

[sandysan]

Remember when Lundqvist got hurt and the Rangers climbed in the standings? Their backup (actually backups, it happened twice) was excellent. Great goalies are all around. Supply and demand.

then why can't montreal find them ? Cubano is good to spell ( same with condon who was literally awful when thrown to the lions). you ties your boat to them, you better be prepared to swim.

yeah if your team is good defensively, you can get by with corey crawford level goaltending. Montreal isnt close to good defensively and we can't score. We NEED a goalie who every 7 out of 10 games lets in 2 goals or less. You see a lot of available great goalies who are going to be left out to dry by the habs defense being able to meet that bar ? You don't? Don't feel bad, that's not on you becuase there are none.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

35W's a year for the next nine gets Price to 586 (2nd all time)

I don't think that Patrick Roy needs to worry about Price passing him for second when the Habs don't have a first line center and some would say they don't even have a second.

 

[La Bamba]

Price + Drouin = 15.5 million
Franchise goalie and potentially franchise winger

Leaves 60 (+ depending on the cap rising) million dollars to build the rest of the team

That's a lot of money

I wouldn't bank on Drouin being a franchise winger.. he's good but a 53 pt season at age 22 doesn't really scream franchise player. He's more of a complimentary piece to a franchise player.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Don't forget Weber's $7.85 mill AAV on the cap for the long term

And Alzner's new deal @ $4.625

And Petry ($5.5), Shaw ($3.9), and Gallagher ($3.75)

All locked up long term (4+ year) .. So roughly - what - 45% of the cap is allocated to those 6 players plus Price

Building successfully around these high AAV contracts is the next task for GM's to sort out. Effective cheap contracts are paramount.

The last paragraph wont happen. Montreal as absolutely 0 decent prospects who will make a difference on the team. Montreal will draft 20+ as long as Price is healthy.

And I dont think Shaw's career will last another 4 years.

 

[HTTP 400]

I don't think that Patrick Roy needs to worry about Price passing him for second when the Habs don't have a first line center and some would say they don't even have a second.

The Habs lack a #1 center since Koivu's departure (unless you really think Desharnais-Plekanec-Eller as a center depth was really better than Galchenyuk-Danault-Plekanec).

It didn't stop Price from reaching multiple 35+ wins seasons. He's that good. Now, like it has been said, it's on him to elevate his game in PO and win that Stanley cup to shut everyone up.

 

[Towers]

I don't like the deal.