MLB off-season News & Notes thread (Phils sign Kingery to 6 year deal)

[Blackhawkswincup]

O's won't deal the Yankees Machado. It may make sense for the Sox to pull a Chapman. Trade for him at a reduced rate and sell high at the deadline to the Yankees.

And if he gets injured? Or struggles? or Yanks don't need him and decide they will wait until FA?

To much risk for White Sox

I would love Machado on team with an extension as face of franchise going forward but his unwillingness to sign extension is issue

 

[Belieber]

If the Yankees trade Clint Frazier I will be pissed. I don't care how they fit him into the line-up, I want him to stay a Yankee and be given some time to develop. Rumor is they may trade him for Garret Cole, do NOT trade Clint.

 

[MMC]

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[darko]

If the Yankees trade Clint Frazier I will be pissed. I don't care how they fit him into the line-up, I want him to stay a Yankee and be given some time to develop. Rumor is they may trade him for Garret Cole, do NOT trade Clint.

I'd drive him to Pitt myself for Cole.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

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Yep....thought I was going crazy

 

[Belieber]

I'd drive him to Pitt myself for Cole.

I'd love to know what's up with him. How does a guy with a career high of 11 homers allowed go all the way up to 31 allowed? ERA going up each year. He's no sure thing. I'd hang on to Frazier, when it puts it all together he has Donaldson potential.

 

[Voight]

I'd love to know what's up with him. How does a guy with a career high of 11 homers allowed go all the way up to 31 allowed? ERA going up each year. He's no sure thing. I'd hang on to Frazier, when it puts it all together he has Donaldson potential.

The guy went from 4th in Cy voting to this. And that's with Ray Searge as his pitching coach.

 

[robert terwilliger]

He's overrated, but also a bad comp.

not really

Major League Leaderboards » 2017 » Batters » Advanced Statistics | FanGraphs Baseball

 

[bleedblue1223]

not really

Major League Leaderboards » 2017 » Batters » Advanced Statistics | FanGraphs Baseball

Part of the reason Sandoval fell of a cliff is that he kept his body in horrible shape. Hosmer is much more likely to maintain his usual performances, that are inconsistent from year-to-year. Hosmer will probably continue to fluctuate from a 4 win player to a borderline replacement player. People should've seen what was coming with Sandoval.

 

[Voight]

Source: Indians agree to deal with M. Upton

Was hoping the Angels would sign him so we could recreate the best baseball meme of all time.....

 

[robert terwilliger]

Part of the reason Sandoval fell of a cliff is that he kept his body in horrible shape. Hosmer is much more likely to maintain his usual performances, that are inconsistent from year-to-year. Hosmer will probably continue to fluctuate from a 4 win player to a borderline replacement player. People should've seen what was coming with Sandoval.

i'm not saying it's exact but those numbers include sandoval falling off a cliff and they're basically identical.

hosmer also doesn't fill a real need for the red sox. he's an overrated defensive player and boasts a career 111 ops+ at a position where you can usually stash a good offensive player. they got by with moreland and ramirez platooning last year, dropping 9 figures on eric hosmer for "intangibles" and that he "might stop being alternately good and terrible" might be the worst contract of the offseason.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Oh, I agree, he won't be worth the contract he'll get. I moved to KC about 3 years ago, he's incredibly overrated. I wouldn't give him more than 4 years/$60 million, maybe 5/75, but he just doesn't have the upside of a really long-term deal.

 

[Neutrinos]

If I'm Machado, I'm not sold on that plan. What if some of the prospects fail or don't live up to expectations, and now you're locked in long-term to a non-contender with a contract only a very select few clubs can take on.

That would totally suck!

Making 30+ million a year to play baseball, yet your team never makes the playoffs

I'd probably just kill myself

 

[bleedblue1223]

That would totally suck!

Making 30+ million a year to play baseball, yet your team never makes the playoffs

I'd probably just kill myself

Well, ok then, tell me how you really feel about it.

 

[Cassano]

If I'm Machado, I'm not sold on that plan. What if some of the prospects fail or don't live up to expectations, and now you're locked in long-term to a non-contender with a contract only a very select few clubs can take on.

It's a risk. You can also be part of the team that are the next Cubs in terms of multiple talented young players at every position.

Not sold on Phillies rebuild, but I think the ChiSox are close to a sure bet to compete within the next few years. Insanely stacked prospect group.

 

[Voight]

It's a risk. You can also be part of the team that are the next Cubs in terms of multiple talented young players at every position.

Not sold on Phillies rebuild, but I think the ChiSox are close to a sure bet to compete within the next few years. Insanely stacked prospect group.

Or you can join a an already good team where you will still be a star/main guy, while knowing the team is actually going places.

 

[darko]

I'd love to know what's up with him. How does a guy with a career high of 11 homers allowed go all the way up to 31 allowed? ERA going up each year. He's no sure thing. I'd hang on to Frazier, when it puts it all together he has Donaldson potential.

He's pitched better than his ERA suggests.

 

[bleedblue1223]

He's pitched better than his ERA suggests.

WHIP and FIP have both increased significantly. He's not what he used to be, but he can bounce back.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I'd love to know what's up with him. How does a guy with a career high of 11 homers allowed go all the way up to 31 allowed? ERA going up each year. He's no sure thing. I'd hang on to Frazier, when it puts it all together he has Donaldson potential.

His velocity and stuff are still there, he just threw 200 innings, he's still young. There's not much to be concerned about.

His HR/FB rate last year was almost double what it was his career the first 4 years in the league, i.e it's unsustainanble and the HR numbers will regress back to normal.

Both his floor and ceiling are still pretty damn high.

 

[Cassano]

Yes Marcus, I'm sure you can learn nothing from a WS/Cy Young-winning future HOFer.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Yes Marcus, I'm sure you can learn nothing from a WS/Cy Young-winning future HOFer.

Height doesn't measure hunger, bro

 

[Cassano]

Height doesn't measure hunger, bro

#HDMH #StriveForGreatness

 

[hockeykicker]

Free agent slugger J.D. Martinez is informing potential suitors that he would prefer to sign as an outfielder, according to a report from Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald. Just how that will impact the ongoing recruitment process is not yet clear, but the report suggests it could mean the oft-linked Red Sox will need to boost their offer or clear outfield space to make a deal.

J.D. Martinez Reportedly Prefers To Sign As Outfielder

 

[Voight]

Oriole's wont apparently trade Machado to a team that will flip him to the Yankees, not exactly how they are going to ensure that unless they deal him to the BoSox, who don't seem interested.