Is it this cut-and-dry though? I'm just asking because marner's career assist totals is 75% of Matthews career points
Yes, he is also a pretty bad comparable, which is what I have been saying all along.Notsince67 said:Back up....stamkos is a ufa in a no tax state.
Pass. I have zero desire to trade Marmer, so if a team wants him....offersheet him and put those 1sts on the table. people will say that's a stupid attitude, i don't care.Pittsburgh offers Guentzel, Bjugstad, 2020 1st, and 2021 1st
It’s not 4x 1st’s but you also get Guentzel
Guentzel-JT-Kapanen
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Kerfoot-Bjugstad-Hyman
Kahun-Crosby-Marner
Galchenyuk-Malkin-Rust
Bleuger-McCann-Hornqvist
Just sign already. This is exhausting.
It’s only July 08.Just sign already. This is exhausting.
There really only seems to be a few outcomes for Marner/the Leafs at this point...
- The Leafs trade another player or two opening up enough cap space to give Marner the deal he wants. In this case the depth of the Leafs suffers and they might not be as good going forward.
- Marner is forced to take a deal he doesn't want. In this case the Leafs may have an unhappy player who ultimately wants out to get the deal he feels he deserves.
- Marner is traded. I don't see it coming to this (yet).
- Marner is offer-sheeted. I'd give this a 0.0001% chance of happening. All the "offer sheet" talk out there is probably coming from Marner's camp to force the Leafs' hand.
Of all the options ironically depending on what they can get in return #3 might be the best option.
Sorry but if we are dealing marner I want a top pairing defender with term or a young defender who has top pairing upside and a top 9 winger. Guentzel is obviously a great player and signed for cheap relative to other wingers league wide. But marner has the potential to be the best winger in the world one day. If we are dealing that than we need to be getting a defender that will be able to play the next 10 years with Reilly and be a top 15 defenseman during that time frame.Pittsburgh offers Guentzel, Bjugstad, 2020 1st, and 2021 1st
It’s not 4x 1st’s but you also get Guentzel
Guentzel-JT-Kapanen
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Kerfoot-Bjugstad-Hyman
Kahun-Crosby-Marner
Galchenyuk-Malkin-Rust
Bleuger-McCann-Hornqvist
Neither the Leafs nor Marner have that luxury, there's no extra cap to let Marner hold out. If he doesn't sign....he's sitting for the season.Something tells me if Marner doesn't get an offer sheet this will go the way of Nylander
I get the appeal of 4 1sts, but there’s a chance that none of those 1st’s even become good NHL players. Getting a known commodity in Guentzel who’s signed pretty cheap, plus two 1st’s is probably a better option if the Leafs come to the conclusion that they can’t keep Marner.Pass. I have zero desire to trade Marmer, so if a team wants him....offersheet him and put those 1sts on the table. people will say that's a stupid attitude, i don't care.
Ya agree, the crunch comes a lot earlier than December 1st for Marner. I'm sure both sides will know exactly when that is too. Dubas needs to not blink, Marner is fighting for about the amount of money that he'll lose by sitting a season so if he's money driven he should cave before that happensNeither the Leafs nor Marner have that luxury, there's no extra cap to let Marner hold out. If he doesn't sign....he's sitting for the season.
Again, i don't care. I have zero desire in trading Marner for something a team is comfortable giving up. You want him? Offersheet him at a stupid number the Leafs won't match and put 4 1sts on the table.I get the appeal of 4 1sts, but there’s a chance that none of those 1st’s even become good NHL players. Getting a known commodity in Guentzel who’s signed pretty cheap, plus two 1st’s is probably a better option if the Leafs come to the conclusion that they can’t keep Marner.
Ya agree, the crunch comes a lot earlier than December 1st for Marner. I'm sure both sides will know exactly when that is too. Dubas needs to not blink, Marner is fighting for about the amount of money that he'll lose by sitting a season so if he's money driven he should cave before that happens
Among other reasons, some of the biggest:andora said:fair enough, and i'm not arguing or disagreeing but i would like to ask - where you say Matthews is 'well' over a million better, why?