Speculation: Mike Smith vs The Field

[Baxterman]

Malkin is a great player, but he's no goalie. Don't be silly.

I prefer Malkin as the back-up over Smith.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

2 years @ 3.75 per, sounds good to me.

 

[Baxterman]

If he hopes to be a starter then the Calgary rumours should be out the window. I can't imagine the Flames are going to be going into the season with him above Rittich on the depth chart.

 

[super6646]

2 years @ 3.75 per, sounds good to me.

Not an fing chance for talbot.

 

[super6646]

If he hopes to be a starter then the Calgary rumours should be out the window. I can't imagine the Flames are going to be going into the season with him above Rittich on the depth chart.

Agreed. Would be dumb to guarantee him that playing time, and frankly, talbot isn’t exactly someone who should be picky after his last couple years of play.

 

[Baxterman]

Agreed. Would be dumb to guarantee him that playing time, and frankly, talbot isn’t exactly someone who should be picky after his last couple years of play.

I think Calgary offers him a chance to be a starter but that is only if Rittich drops the ball and we need to go to plan b. I like the idea of a guy coming in with confidence in his abilities but I hope he comes in knowing he is 100% the second choice and that the team hopes he stays there because for us to have success Rittich needs to be the guy not Talbot.

 

[Corpus X]

Smith and Edmonton are talking as per "The Score" app on my phone.

Report: Oilers speak to Mike Smith

 

[DFF]

Smith and Edmonton are talking as per "The Score" app on my phone.

Report: Oilers speak to Mike Smith

Great news

 

[Fig]

If he hopes to be a starter then the Calgary rumours should be out the window. I can't imagine the Flames are going to be going into the season with him above Rittich on the depth chart.

I feel like the context is that Talbot hopes for a platoon situation vs guaranteed backup like Elliott just accepted in Philly. I don't think he's aiming to be the top dog right of the bat. I mean, the only places that looks possible is where? Carolina, Florida, Ottawa (if Andersen out) and CBJ?

 

[DFF]

I feel like the context is that Talbot hopes for a platoon situation vs guaranteed backup like Elliott just accepted in Philly. I don't think he's aiming to be the top dog right of the bat. I mean, the only places that looks possible is where? Carolina, Florida, Ottawa (if Andersen out) and CBJ?

Yeah and nobody should be signing him to be #1 anyway.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

If he hopes to be a starter then the Calgary rumours should be out the window. I can't imagine the Flames are going to be going into the season with him above Rittich on the depth chart.

I'm just as uneasy with going into the season with Rittich as the confirmed #1 guy, but I'd be fine with a 1A/1B situation with Talbot.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Not an fing chance for talbot.

I mean at this point he needs to sign a short term, prove it type of deal. Maybe he gets 4 per, but I can’t see anyone paying more than that. See Darling.

 

[super6646]

I mean at this point he needs to sign a short term, prove it type of deal. Maybe he gets 4 per, but I can’t see anyone paying more than that. See Darling.

Why would he get 3.75? That’s almost the same aav as his current contract, and he’s been absolute shit these last couple years. I offer a 1.5-2 million aav for a year, take it or leave it.

 

[crackdown44]

Yeah I expect Talbot to come in around 2milAAV on a 1-2 year deal. Can’t see anyone giving up more than that, especially with how saturated the goalie market is with middling goaltenders

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I’d love it if he cost under 3. It depends on the market and how many teams are interested in him.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Yeah I expect Talbot to come in around 2milAAV on a 1-2 year deal. Can’t see anyone giving up more than that, especially with how saturated the goalie market is with middling goaltenders

My thought as well. All these guys on market (save for Bob) are very middling goaltenders. Anything above 3m for Talbot here or elsewhere, would surprise me.

 

[Nanuuk]

Talbot would have to come in at or lower than what Rittich will get. Anything higher creates an unequal relationship and perhaps resentment from Rittich that you value the new guy more than me. Especially if you're platooning.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

My thought as well. All these guys on market (save for Bob) are very middling goaltenders. Anything above 3m for Talbot here or elsewhere, would surprise me.

I'd be surprised if it was much higher than 2 tbh.

 

[Fig]

Mentioned in the other thread, but what if... we helped Cam Talbot find a home and attempt to pry Markstrom out at the same time?

Squeeze Vancouver for Markstrom and "brokering" Talbot with Vancouver to sign a 3.2-3.5x3 limited NTC no NMC. I don't think it's tampering as it's just info you get in negotiations (kinda like how I seem to recall we got inside track info about the negotiation level and info on Hamilton, Lindholm and Hanifin from the teams we acquired them from). No worse than when a player pits GMs against each other going, "They're offering me this."

Vancouver locks in goal tending for a reasonable cap and duration while they wait out Luongo's 3 year penalty. 3.5 mil + ELC + 3.8 mil recapture - 7.5 mil ish on goalie tandem over next 3 seasons. Talbot is paid probably more than elsewhere at 3x3. Vancouver also saves cap in this scenario vs retaining Markstrom. In all seriousness, Vancouver's system under Green is also decent in comparison to what Talbot was dealing with for shot suppression vs Flyers and Oilers, so in theory he should be able to do reasonably well.

Calgary gets a young guy who should do better with a change of scenery and better system supporting him. He'd be a fantastic platoon option with Rittich.

???

Profit!?

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

Mentioned in the other thread, but what if... we helped Cam Talbot find a home and attempt to pry Markstrom out at the same time?

Squeeze Vancouver for Markstrom and "brokering" Talbot with Vancouver to sign a 3.2-3.5x3 limited NTC no NMC. I don't think it's tampering as it's just info you get in negotiations (kinda like how I seem to recall we got inside track info about the negotiation level and info on Hamilton, Lindholm and Hanifin from the teams we acquired them from). No worse than when a player pits GMs against each other going, "They're offering me this."

Vancouver locks in goal tending for a reasonable cap and duration while they wait out Luongo's 3 year penalty. 3.5 mil + ELC + 3.8 mil recapture - 7.5 mil ish on goalie tandem over next 3 seasons. Talbot is paid probably more than elsewhere at 3x3. Vancouver also saves cap in this scenario vs retaining Markstrom. In all seriousness, Vancouver's system under Green is also decent in comparison to what Talbot was dealing with for shot suppression vs Flyers and Oilers, so in theory he should be able to do reasonably well.

Calgary gets a young guy who should do better with a change of scenery and better system supporting him. He'd be a fantastic platoon option with Rittich.

???

Profit!?

As a Canucks fan dropping by I’ll weigh in on this scenario.

For starters I highly doubt Benning even considers Markstrom being moved due to what he’s putting on the line this season. He’s in a make or break year with his job on the line and he also wagered our first rounder for the next two years on JT Miller and other pieces acquired in Free Agency being enough to make the playoffs.

While I’m in the camp that believes he’s out on a fools errand I fully believe he’s drinking the Kool Aid on a scenario that if teams like Carolina and St Louis can get in and make noise then so can the team he has constructed. I just don’t think he’d move Markstrom unless he was able to get a sure upgrade and that’s not going to happen.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Love it.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

I like it too. I don't think Talbot is a reliable starter, but he'll make a good one half of a tandem or a very dependable backup.

 

[Calculon]