McDavid - 20/21 vs. Crosby 10/11

Who is better?


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Ace Card Bedard

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Let's see what McDavid can do in a normal season next year (hopefully.)
I'm sure he'll still be great but will it be back to his 110-115pt pace or will be closer to this 150+ pace?
What he's done this year is remarkable but it's basically in a 7 team league.
Can he do it again against Vegas, Colorado, Carolina, Boston, etc? Remains to be seen.

He's certainly capable.
 

CloutierForVezina

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Let's see what McDavid can do in a normal season next year (hopefully.)
I'm sure he'll still be great but will it be back to his 110-115pt pace or will be closer to this 150+ pace?

When was that, exactly? 2017? McDavid hasn't been on a pace that low for years.

2015-2016 his 82 game pace was 29g, 58a, 87p (1.06 points per game)
2016-2017 his 82 game pace was 30g, 70a, 100p (1.22 points per game)
2017-2018 his 82 games pace was 41g, 67a, 108p (1.32 points per game)
2018-2019 his 82 game pace was 43g, 79a, 122p (1.49 points per game)
2019-2020 his 82 game pace was 44g, 81a, 125p (1.52 points per game)
2020-2021 his 82 game pace was 50g, 105a, 155p (1.89 points per game)

His point production has been on a steady incline literally his entire career, and the vast majority of it has been in a "normal season". This isn't some fluke accident where a player randomly has a great year, this is a generational talent getting better every single year.

The only thing that could possibly slow him down are injuries. They robbed Crosby of some of his greatest seasons, I'm really hoping they doesn't also rob McDavid of some of his. A healthy McDavid drops 130p next year.
 

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It shows that the uh, east division is the division feasting on weak teams.

It absolutely doesn't.

The competitions in the divisions are utterly isolated from each other. There is no basis of comparison based on stats from this season. No matter how bad a team was, it would require a decent team to beat up on them. Whatever that shows about a division is a net zero.

We do have a rational basis for comparison though, and that's the results of last season:

The East had the 1,5,6,7, 11, 18, 25, and 26th best teams. Four top 10 NHL teams. 5 teams out of 8 in the East were superior to the very best Canadian team.

The best Canadian team was 12th. followed by 13, 17, 19, 20, 24, 30. Zero top 10 teams.

The East's goal differential last season was plus 90. Canada's was minus 23.

2019-2020 NHL Hockey Standings
 
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Steven Toast

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It absolutely doesn't.

The competitions in the divisions are utterly isolated from each other. There is no basis of comparison based on stats from this season. No matter how bad a team was, it would require a decent team to beat up on them. Whatever that shows about a division is a net zero.

We do have a rational basis for comparison though, and that's the results of last season:

The East had the 1,5,6,7, 11, 18, 25, and 26th best teams. Four top 10 NHL teams. 5 teams out of 8 in the East were superior to the very best Canadian team.

The best Canadian team was 12th. followed by 13, 17, 19, 20, 24, 30. Zero top 10 teams.

The East's goal differential last season was plus 90. Canada's was minus 23.

2019-2020 NHL Hockey Standings
You absolutely cannot use last years standings as a surefire way to determine the best teams this year. Lots of movement happens every offseason. Completely flawed method.

The GD is by far the most lopsided in the East. It has the lowest level of parity. Hence it has the most opportunities for good teams to beat up on bad teams. So if any teams are taking advantage of weaker teams its happening in the east. The GD clearly shows this.
 
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McFlash97

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Let's see what McDavid can do in a normal season next year (hopefully.)
I'm sure he'll still be great but will it be back to his 110-115pt pace or will be closer to this 150+ pace?
What he's done this year is remarkable but it's basically in a 7 team league.
Can he do it again against Vegas, Colorado, Carolina, Boston, etc? Remains to be seen.

He's certainly capable.


110 points ? Lol


What a clueless post.
 

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