Proposal: Matthews Offer Sheet from Arizona?

[LeafFever]

I can't believe fans who laughed at the idea Tavares could go to the Leafs can try to say with a straight face the Coyotees are "Not That Bad", and can afford 15 million per and Matthews desperately wants to go there.
Guys, just be happy if there is a team existing there when Matthews contract is up. That organization is broke, irrelevant and would have been moved years ago if the NHL was like the NFL or NBA.
Pure, laughable fantasy.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

A weak Coyotes team can’t afford a 14M player

 

[Price is Wright]

A weak Coyotes team can’t afford a 14M player

$11.5M is freeing up next summer in actual salary from Bolland, Panik, Kruger, and Mike Smith's leftover.

 

[SR]

a little misleading

if we go back 13 years, the leafs still have just six top 10 picks but the yotes have 7
not really fair to cut off mueller,turris and boedker to make a point eh?
surely those guys are relevant when talking about building a team..not like im going back 25 years

10 years is usually the norm, but in typical leafs fashion, do your thing.

 

[egd27]

$11.5M is freeing up next summer in actual salary from Bolland, Panik, Kruger, and Mike Smith's leftover.

One step closer to profitability then. Maybe the owners would like some return on their "investment"?

 

[Price is Wright]

One step closer to profitability then. Maybe the owners would like some return on their "investment"?

Bringing in the hometown boy would fire up the local base to goto more games and see one of their own play for the Coyotes. That brings a return on their investment. Having Matthews/Keller/Galchenyuk/OEL/Chychrun/Raanta/ is a six that can provide hope for the team to get to the playoffs and respectability again. Would be a much better investment than signing $11.5M of random players again or leaving that money to sit there.

Coyotes are gonna surprise a lot this upcoming season for those who weren't paying attention to how well they were clicking in the final 25 games of the season. They might not make the playoffs but they'll be close.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

If they had the balls, we'd invite them to try. Taking us on is like taking on Disney. Financially we own this league.

Yikes.

This is how we "earn" our "reputation" I guess.

 

[DomBarr]

a little misleading

if we go back 13 years, the leafs still have just six top 10 picks but the yotes have 7
not really fair to cut off mueller,turris and boedker to make a point eh?
surely those guys are relevant when talking about building a team..not like im going back 25 years

that's misleading as well because you omitted the 2 top 10 picks the leafs traded for Kessel. just because a team didn't make the picks, picked a bust, picked a star, etc doesn't change the fact the team earned a top 10 pick for a reason.

both teams earned the right to draft top 10 8 times over 13 years so its kind of tied....LOL

 

[Eat The Rich]

It's fine guys.

If Arizona wants to offer sheet Matthews the Leafs will just offer sheet.. let's say Laine. Why not.

Sorry Winnipeg. Wish it didn't have to be this way, you can blame HF for planting the idea across the league to offer sheet everyone.

 

[egd27]

Bringing in the hometown boy would fire up the local base to goto more games and see one of their own play for the Coyotes. That brings a return on their investment. Having Matthews/Keller/Galchenyuk/OEL/Chychrun/Raanta/ is a six that can provide hope for the team to get to the playoffs and respectability again. Would be a much better investment than signing $11.5M of random players again or leaving that money to sit there.

Coyotes are gonna surprise a lot this upcoming season for those who weren't paying attention to how well they were clicking in the final 25 games of the season. They might not make the playoffs but they'll be close.

Sure, for 10 games or so, then it's right back to packing in 13K with the "all you can eat" ticket package.

Look, I'm trying to insult the loyal fanbase, but let's be realistic, it's been 20+ years and we're still talking about the financial woes of the organization.

Auston Matthews, or Sidney Crosby, or Connor McDavid is going to produce nothing more than a temporary spike in interest. JMO

 

[DomBarr]

A weak Coyotes team can’t afford a 14M player

I would say that if they intend on trying to actually make something sustainable and long term ... there are 3 players in the NHL that would greatly assist with that...one just signed an 8 year extension last year, 1 is most likely going to be a Penguin for life and the last is Matthews.
i'll never say never and I severely doubt he would sign the offer sheet but I can definitely see the Coyotes extending an large above market value offer sheet to Matthews if he is not extended by July 1 next year because for them his value would definitely extend beyond his contribution on the ice and could make them relevant to a larger audience.

 

[Eat The Rich]

Would be a much better investment than signing $11.5M of random players again or leaving that money to sit there.

That's not the popular opinion around here.

Ask anyone, JVR and Bozak together are more valuable than Tavares.

 

[BAM]

Bringing in the hometown boy would fire up the local base to goto more games and see one of their own play for the Coyotes. That brings a return on their investment. Having Matthews/Keller/Galchenyuk/OEL/Chychrun/Raanta/ is a six that can provide hope for the team to get to the playoffs and respectability again. Would be a much better investment than signing $11.5M of random players again or leaving that money to sit there.

Coyotes are gonna surprise a lot this upcoming season for those who weren't paying attention to how well they were clicking in the final 25 games of the season. They might not make the playoffs but they'll be close.

Why would Matthews leave Tavares, Marner, Rielly, Nylander, Andersen for that? He was recruiting Tavares to come here lol keep living in fantasy land.

 

[Price is Wright]

Sure, for 10 games or so, then it's right back to packing in 13K with the "all you can eat" ticket package.

Look, I'm trying to insult the loyal fanbase, but let's be realistic, it's been 20+ years and we're still talking about the financial woes of the organization.

Auston Matthews, or Sidney Crosby, or Connor McDavid is going to produce nothing more than a temporary spike in interest. JMO

Bad management + bad ownership + bad arena = bad franchise. You know who used to draw less fans than the Coyotes between 2004 and 2007? The Chicago Blackhawks. Not saying the Coyotes can get to their numbers (they literally can't, their new arena will only seat 16,000) but it's really hard to create loyal fans when everything is a disaster.

Any arena in Glendale was going to fail. When they were in the US Airways (now Talking Stick) they regularly averaged around 15,000 in an arena ill suited for the NHL where capacity was only around 16,000. The new arena in Tempe will be better located, near Arizona State, and closer to the population. They hope to have it done for 19-20.

You know what would be great to kick off your new arena? Hmmmmmmm.

(Just to be clear: I think Auston re-signs in Toronto, I just want to see the offer sheet made)

Why would Matthews

The discussion wasn't about what Matthews would do. It was how the Coyotes could afford it. Matthews might want to quit hockey and be a pro wrestler in a year for all I know. Also the recruit stuff is so easy to twist. Maybe he recruited Tavares so when he leaves Toronto he knows they won't hurt as badly as if he left them without Tavares? OoOoOoH. If you can't accept this as silly fun go be serious elsewhere.

 

[Eat The Rich]

(Just to be clear: I think Auston re-signs in Toronto, I just want to see the offer sheet made)

That goes without saying.

Most HF predictions involving the Leafs are based on what people want to happen.

 

[dangomon]

It's fine guys.

If Arizona wants to offer sheet Matthews the Leafs will just offer sheet.. let's say Laine. Why not.

Sorry Winnipeg. Wish it didn't have to be this way, you can blame HF for planting the idea across the league to offer sheet everyone.

I think Finland is going to offer sheet Laine, after all...All players just want to go home.

 

[Price is Wright]

I think Finland is going to offer sheet Laine, after all...All players just want to go home.

Nonsense. Nobody wants to go back to Montreal.

 

[Notsince67]

That's not the popular opinion around here.

Ask anyone, JVR and Bozak together are more valuable than Tavares.

Together they are now paid $12MM. I guess the leafs needed to downgrade to Tavares for Cap reasons

 

[Notsince67]

Arizona going to acquire Hossa. This thread can be killed

 

[Discordia]

Not a single player in this league is worth 16 million AAV with the current salary cap. 150 million cap? Okay, we'll talk.

I'll take the 4 1st or whatever it is and roll the dice.

There isn't a single player in the entire league I'd give over 12 milli to. None. Anything above 10 but below 11 is okay, but handicapping. Anything above 11 is destructive and pointless.

 

[BAM]

Bad management + bad ownership + bad arena = bad franchise. You know who used to draw less fans than the Coyotes between 2004 and 2007? The Chicago Blackhawks. Not saying the Coyotes can get to their numbers (they literally can't, their new arena will only seat 16,000) but it's really hard to create loyal fans when everything is a disaster.

Any arena in Glendale was going to fail. When they were in the US Airways (now Talking Stick) they regularly averaged around 15,000 in an arena ill suited for the NHL where capacity was only around 16,000. The new arena in Tempe will be better located, near Arizona State, and closer to the population. They hope to have it done for 19-20.

You know what would be great to kick off your new arena? Hmmmmmmm.

(Just to be clear: I think Auston re-signs in Toronto, I just want to see the offer sheet made)



The discussion wasn't about what Matthews would do. It was how the Coyotes could afford it. Matthews might want to quit hockey and be a pro wrestler in a year for all I know. Also the recruit stuff is so easy to twist. Maybe he recruited Tavares so when he leaves Toronto he knows they won't hurt as badly as if he left them without Tavares? OoOoOoH. If you can't accept this as silly fun go be serious elsewhere.

LOL great response, keep doing you

 

[westcoaster101]

He's not signing an offer sheet!
There's no way he would rather play in Quebec City

 

[LeafFever]

Arizona going to acquire Hossa. This thread can be killed

The people who bring up Arizona's finances are exactly right. They are broke and can't afford a max contract offer. It's a fantasy.
I am tired of them cheating to reach the cap floor.
Why would Matthews even want to go to an organization like that? Tavares would never play for the Leafs if they were run like that. The "Hometown" thing only works if the team is really good.

 

[Aintboutdatlyfe]

People who hate the Leafs like to dream about it but Matthews wouldn't sign an offer sheet with Arizona if they offered him the Max lmao.


Matthews is going to be a Maple Leaf for a very very long time, get used to it. The Leafs aren't f***ing things up with him like NYI did Tavares.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Arizona is more likely to acquire Horton than Matthews.