Prospect Info: Matt kessel

[simon IC]

Kessel has been one of the few bright spots this season. Very impressed, so far.

 

[Frenzy31]

Kessel has been one of the few bright spots this season. Very impressed, so far.

Kessel has been solid. Neighbors has been great. Bolduc doesn’t look out of place and doesn’t float. I would say the way we develop our kids seems to have a pretty solid track record.

 

[ORRFForever]

Kessel has been solid. Neighbors has been great. Bolduc doesn’t look out of place and doesn’t float. I would say the way we develop our kids seems to have a pretty solid track record.

Is he related to Phil?

 

[bleedblue1223]

Is he related to Phil?

He's not.

 

[GoldenSeal]

The kids are showing up and showing great potential. They're just going to get better from here. Props to scouting and development.

 

[finnishflash13]

Dude already has more NHL goals than self-proclaimed offensive defenseman "Scorrin Scott" Perunovich.

 

[joe galiba]

Dude already has more NHL goals than self-proclaimed offensive defenseman "Scorrin Scott" Perunovich.

gf/60 at even strength
perunovich 3.1, kessel 1.7
so the team produces more offense when perunovich is on the ice

 

[Ted Hoffman]

gf/60 at even strength
perunovich 3.1, kessel 1.7
so the team produces more offense when perunovich is on the ice

True. I'd still take Kessel over Perunovich without hesitation.

 

[Frenzy31]

gf/60 at even strength
perunovich 3.1, kessel 1.7
so the team produces more offense when perunovich is on the ice

You are the GM of the GM of the team - who are you taking: Kessel or Perunovich?

 

[ezcreepin]

You are the GM of the GM of the team - who are you taking: Kessel or Perunovich?

Obviously at this point Kessel for the sheer fact that he appears to be able to handle 17+ minutes a night and hasn't had an injury that I can remember.

 

[PocketNines]

I am taking Kessel, easy

 

[joe galiba]

You are the GM of the GM of the team - who are you taking: Kessel or Perunovich?

it depends upon team needs
if I need a 5/6 who can be a pp qb then perunovich, if I need a 5/6 who can pk and move up at times and play defensive minutes then kessel
if I need a guy that plays all situations 25 minutes a night then neither

the quote I replied to was implying that just because kessel has a goal he must somehow be better offensively which isn’t remotely true

and as they are both rookies ask me again in 5 years

 

[BlueDream]

it depends upon team needs
if I need a 5/6 who can be a pp qb then perunovich, if I need a 5/6 who can pk and move up at times and play defensive minutes then kessel
if I need a guy that plays all situations 25 minutes a night then neither

the quote I replied to was implying that just because kessel has a goal he must somehow be better offensively which isn’t remotely true

and as they are both rookies ask me again in 5 years

The post really did not imply that at all. It was merely pointing out the hilarity that Perunovich still hasn’t scored a goal, when everyone else has. Even Tyler Tucker has already scored twice.

And while they may both be “rookies”, Kessel is 2 years younger and has played in half the amount of NHL games as Perunovich. So yes, Kessel is on a further path in his development and I also would pick him quite easily between the two.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

You are the GM of the GM [sic] of the team - who are you taking: Kessel or Perunovich?

and as they are both rookies ask me again in 5 years

That's ... not how this works. You don't get 5 years to decide who you're taking today.

This isn't a beauty pageant, no one's keeping score, no one's dragging this thread up in 5 years zomg, look who _____ wanted, lolerzzz111!!?>WFZTQBT! Make whatever assumptions you want about what the team's needs are, then tell us which one guy - either Matt Kessel or Scott Perunovich - you're taking for the Blues roster if you're the Blues GM.

 

[Blueston]

That's ... not how this works. You don't get 5 years to decide who you're taking today.

This isn't a beauty pageant, no one's keeping score, no one's dragging this thread up in 5 years zomg, look who _____ wanted, lolerzzz111!!?>WFZTQBT! Make whatever assumptions you want about what the team's needs are, then tell us which one guy - either Matt Kessel or Scott Perunovich - you're taking for the Blues roster if you're the Blues GM.

if you are counting on either to have key role you've already lost. i do think they could potentially make interesting 3rd pair though.

 

[Drubilly]

That's ... not how this works. You don't get 5 years to decide who you're taking today.

This isn't a beauty pageant, no one's keeping score, no one's dragging this thread up in 5 years zomg, look who _____ wanted, lolerzzz111!!?>WFZTQBT! Make whatever assumptions you want about what the team's needs are, then tell us which one guy - either Matt Kessel or Scott Perunovich - you're taking for the Blues roster if you're the Blues GM.

That's ... not how this works. Ranksu will backhoe this shit up for a poll in seven years.

 

[Frenzy31]

it depends upon team needs
if I need a 5/6 who can be a pp qb then perunovich, if I need a 5/6 who can pk and move up at times and play defensive minutes then kessel
if I need a guy that plays all situations 25 minutes a night then neither

the quote I replied to was implying that just because kessel has a goal he must somehow be better offensively which isn’t remotely true

and as they are both rookies ask me again in 5 years

I am taking Kessel for a couple of reasons. Personally, I don't think it is all that close

1. Age. He is younger by 2 years.

2. Size: Yes this is a major issue - because Peru, for all of his offense - can't complete down low, which is necessary for a defensive player.

3. Injury history. Peru has been injured multiple times over the past two seasons... Again, this is a size issue.

4. Offense - at 5v5 the production is pretty darn close when taking into account number of games played. Also, Kessel was very offensive in college. It didn't just go away, he had to work on the d side of the game. My guess is this will be a lot closer next year.

5. I think Kessel is a solid #4 at this point and likely a #4 on a contender. I don't see Peru anything more than a PPQB playing as a 5, but a 6 on a contender.

As a shorter person, I always root for the small guy. But his size is a big issue when playing D. I think he should transition to forward and then play the point on the PP.

 

[PocketNines]

"Ask me in 5 years if I made the right call" is how we ended up with no support beam on defense, and instead these little specialists who must be sheltered everywhere besides their specialty, which they happen to be not competent in

 

[joe galiba]

I am taking Kessel for a couple of reasons. Personally, I don't think it is all that close

1. Age. He is younger by 2 years.

2. Size: Yes this is a major issue - because Peru, for all of his offense - can't complete down low, which is necessary for a defensive player.

3. Injury history. Peru has been injured multiple times over the past two seasons... Again, this is a size issue.

4. Offense - at 5v5 the production is pretty darn close when taking into account number of games played. Also, Kessel was very offensive in college. It didn't just go away, he had to work on the d side is

5. I think Kessel is a solid #4 at this point and likely a #4 on a contender. I don't see Peru anything offensive playermore than a PPQB playing as a 5, but a 6 on a contender.

As a shorter person, I always root for the small guy. But his size is a big issue when playing D. I think he should transition to forward and then play the point on the PP.

Kessel has actually played 158 games as a pro and Perunovich has played 109

at even strength Perunovich gf/60 is 3.1 and Kessel is at 1.7 and Perunovich gets a point about every 3rd game and Kessel about every 6th game
both of these match my eye test that perunovich is a clearly better offensive player which goes back to my point about teams needs would dictate who I would rather have
and I wouldn’t mind them as a 5/6 pair if Krug were to be replaced by better all around LD

 

[Frenzy31]

Kessel has actually played 158 games as a pro and Perunovich has played 109

at even strength Perunovich gf/60 is 3.1 and Kessel is at 1.7 and Perunovich gets a point about every 3rd game and Kessel about every 6th game
both of these match my eye test that perunovich is a clearly better offensive player which goes back to my point about teams needs would dictate who I would rather have
and I wouldn’t mind them as a 5/6 pair if Krug were to be replaced by better all around LD

Are you counting AHL games? I call BS on that. Talk about cherry picking. Focus on the NHL.

I would go a step further. Kessel is 2years young and has played more professional games….. That should tell you something.

 

[kimzey59]

gf/60 at even strength
perunovich 3.1, kessel 1.7
so the team produces more offense when perunovich is on the ice

ga/60 at even strength
Perunovich 2.8
Kessel 1.8

Not sure the increased offense really makes up for that.

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

ga/60 at even strength
Perunovich 2.8
Kessel 1.8

Not sure the increased offense really makes up for that.

+0.3 vs -0.1 net goal differential per 60 does add up.

That said, I think I’d pick Kessel as I think he has more room for growth than Perunovich has.

However, it’s not a bad thing to have both on the roster given their cap hits.

 

[Blueston]

+0.3 vs -0.1 net goal differential per 60 does add up.

That said, I think I’d pick Kessel as I think he has more room for growth than Perunovich has.

However, it’s not a bad thing to have both on the roster given their cap hits.

well, considering how short he is i'd say peru has huge room for growth, which he will need to do if he is going to be good defensive player.

 

[LGB]

I'm glad we played Perunovich because he is a talented guy that deserved the chance to prove himself, but I think his lack of a separating gear to escape a forecheck limits him too much to be a really effective OFD at even strength. Back to Kessel though. He has that gear. Lately, I've seen some really crafty short passes to start breakouts from him. I definitely think he can be a top 4 D.

 

[Majorityof1]

+0.3 vs -0.1 net goal differential per 60 does add up.

That said, I think I’d pick Kessel as I think he has more room for growth than Perunovich has.

However, it’s not a bad thing to have both on the roster given their cap hits.

We are talking baseball. I say I made up a stat where you subtract all the runs scored when a player is involved (at bat or on base) in baseball minus all the runs that are scored when they touch the ball on defense. I say Player A is a positive and player B is a negative. Would that mean anything if player A is DH and player B is a pitcher who never goes up to bat.

Hockey is not that black and white, but deployment matters too. And Kessel is not NEAR as sheltered as Perunovich. Kessel gets the toughest defensive usage on the team outside of Parayko/Leddy. And he is doing it stapled to Krug. Its not even a close comparison. Kessel is far better.